Project Related Billing
hai Guru,s
My project is PS related .Delivery is happening through PS route T.code CNS0 for delivery.What is the Billing type .How to do the billing for this senario.
Any PS and Integration Material Plz
Thank u in Advance
Dear Sree,
Hope, this informationmay help you.
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Best Regards,
Amit
Note:
PS-MM Integration:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/d7/b8853488601e33e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
PS-FICO Integration:
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PS-SD Integration:
http://www.jt77.com/system-dynamics/model-05006.html
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PS-CO Integration:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/f0/ca3f6a260211d28a430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Also, refer site:
http://www.sapprojectsystem.com/
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/PS/PS.pdf
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Deliver Related (Project delivery) Billing
Is it possible to do delivery related (project delivery) billing in PS. Our enterprise uses PS for the manufacturing and procurement process, but there is compelling business / statutory requirement to do delivery related billing.
Currently we call the materials in sales orders, then do sales order delivery and then delivery related billing. This leads discrepancies and necessitates duplication of data entry, once in project networks and then again in sales orders.
Looking for a solution to do project delivery and bill the materials referencing this delivery.
Muraleedharan.RHi,
Thanks a lot for your prompt response.
I hope the picture is clear now.
The business requirement is:
1.There are hundreds of deliverables in the project each having individual billing value
2.We have specific billing requirements for each billing document involving advance adjustments (down payments), deferred debts (payments which due only after a specified time from the billing date) etc.
3.Billing needs to be linked to (read referenced) the deliveries from excise procedural angle (CIN)
Now,if the delivery is to be referenced in billing ,and if a very complex picing procedure involving lot of manual pricing conditions are involved, what shall we do?
Presently we are calling all the materials as sales order line items, assign the line items to WBS, do sales order delivery and then do delivery related billing. The process is fine, but involve duplication of data entry and lot of manual intervention which is quite un-SAP like.
My postings are against this back drop.
Regards
Muraleedharan.R
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Billing request? or Resource Related billing?
Hi,
Please read the real life SD - FICO scenario given below and if you think you have the solution, kindly state your suggestion. Would be much appreciated.
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Engineering Services Orders (Inter-company)
Process Steps (As-is)
1.Purchase Order is received in Co. A via EDI, from Co. B
2.Sales Order (services) is automatically generated in Co. A. It has item 10 as hours and item 20 as travel expenses in $ amount
Sales accounting creates settlement rule and internal order number and advises the engineers who will provide the services
3.Later on, engineers report actual hours for services rendered, by using CATS system This merely reports data in SAP system but does not make an FI posting
They use the order number advised to them in step 2 to create an internal order
4 Actual travel expenses are added by Payroll - as a direct posting to FI
5. Periodic CATS batch job is carried out by relevant IT person, to settle costs to an internal order (not to sales order). These costs are labor hours and travel expenses
6. FICO personnel then do transaction K08G to settle internal order --> sales order
7. (Manual Step) Sales Accounting then runs report KVBI to view and select data related to service orders The data is downloaded to an Excel worksheet and handed over to SD-Billing.
8. (Manual step) The cost data in dollar figures is converted to hours by SD-Billing, dividing cost data with rate / hour given in the sales order condition record
9. SD-Billing creates invoice. Since it is order-related invoice, it has open quantities coming in from the order. These are now manually over-written / replaced with the actual data from step 7 & 8. An invoice is thus, generated for each order individually.
Process (To-be)
To create an interim document (billing request?) to replace manual steps 7 and 8. This interim document needs to capture actual cost data form the system and also show the remaining / open quantities from the sales order
QUESTION: what is the best route to go?
Configure a Billing Request document (by modifying a standard Credit Memo Request / Debit Memo Request) or
Going via the route of resource-related billing?Refer to the document: J48 - Project with Intercompany Billing
Link: http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1500/BL_India/index.htm
This is a very good document for guidance.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka -
How to determine prices in Resource Related Billing(RRB)
Dear Experts,
I am working for service related client.in this SD,PS,HR and CO are integrated.
from SD i have to create resource related billing.here while running DP91 how the system determines the resources related pricing.
My doubts are:
1.Whether prices are determined automatically or we will maintain manually?
2.If prices are automatically:how and where we maintain?
3.If prices are manually:how and when to maintain?
I heard that to determine prices automatically by system i have to create Z table.
Z table because,prices are differ from projects,and position of the employee.
Thanks for helping,
Ravikumar.RYes, price determination is automatic
If you have worked on DIP profile, there you might have come across term called Source.
Based on the source system determines the pricing data.
And SAP provide 9 different sources for different process like:
1.
Actual costs - Line items (most popular)
2.
Actual costs - Totals records
3.
Statistical indicators - Line items
4.
Statistical indicators - Totals record
5.
Funds - Line items
6.
Funds - Totals records
7.
Planned Statistical indicators - Totals records
8.
Planned costs - Totals records
9.
Easy Cost Planning (Generally used with PS Project)
Details of source each can be learnt from SAP Help.
Regards
JP -
Order related & delivery related billing
Hi all,
I have a scenario which is explained as under:
In the sales order i have the following line items:
1. ATM machine - 1 qty. This will be a stock item.
2. ATM installation - 1 qty. This will be a service item so non-stock item.
3. Cables - 500 Mts. This will be a stock item.
4. Cables Installation - 1 qty. This will be a service item so non-stock item.
Now I have a project sales scenario (no PS configuration) & suppose the total order value is 1000 USD. Now the client wants to create 3 different invoices. The payment scenario will be
1. 50% after order confirmation. Once the sales order is confirmed, then an invoice should be generated from the system with a value of 500 USD. For this particular invoice the payment term will be "within net 7 days".
2. 40% after the delivery has been done. An invoice to be generated from the system with a value of 400 USD. For this particular invoice the payment term will be "within net 15 days".
3. 10% after installation, commissioning & testing. An invoice to be generated from the system with a value of 100 USD. For this particular invoice the payment term will be "within net 7 days".
Proposed Solution:
2 different document types will be used - one for normal sale & the other one for project sales scenario. For normal stock items the item category is TAN & the billing relevance for this is "A-delivery related billing". Also for service items it is TAX with billing relevance as "B - Relevant for order-related billing - status acc.to order qty".
I will create a new item category as ZTAN & ZTAX for the stock items & service items. I will use billing relevance as "I - Order-relevant billing - billing plan" & use milestone billling.
In the milestone billing, I will create 3 different milestones -
1. Order Confirmation - amount 50%
2. Delivery Completion - 40%
3. Installation & testing - 10%
So whenever i will use the project sales order type I will create direct invoices with reference to the sales order through the billing plan...........for my normal sales order it will be delivery related billing for the same items.
Is my solution correct?
My Doubts:
1. If i create order related billing for stock items then will there be any effect on the delivery & PGI. Will the system again allow to create the invoice with reference to the delivery?
With best regards,
Niyaz.hello, friend.
re: your doubts...
your materials will still require delivery and PGI. copy controls will be such that your document flow will be updated once these are done.
however, since your billing will be order related, delivery and PGI will not be pre-requisites for billing.
regards. -
Can anyone explain Resource Related Billing process?
I tried reading everywhere about Resource Related Billing. Trying to learn about this. Please help me in understand this.
What is the document flow for this?
Is it like - Service Order(or Sales Documetn) is created.......then Delivery.....Invoice........DMR.......and then .Debit Memo???
Is it bcoz we can't include all the costs incurred during the service in the Order, we need to created DMR for the DIP profile?
I saw online somewhere where they created Service ORder using text item. Once the service was provided, they removed the text item and added the two materials...one for service and and one for material used. Delivery was created. Later Invoice. Here in this case....there is no need for DMR.
Then why do we use Resource related billing? Why can't we just follow the above process?
Is it same for Service Contracts also? Service Contract.........Billing.......DMR........and then DM
Is Service management Module a better substitute for REsource related scenario?? Somewhere I read when Service Management Module is not there......we can go with this.
I am reading now SAP Consulting notes available for DIP profile. Very good one....but trying to understand the flow of this process.
Will definitely award point for good info.hi,
The Price of a Customer-specific services are not determined by Standard Prices .
For example
Make to order production
Plant maintenace
Resource related Billing is used in the CUSTOMER SERVICE and PROJECT SYSTEMS
We use the RRB process to bill the customer for the Material consumed and the Costs incurred in the customer project.
The flow is
Create the Sales order in VA01 which has the DIP profile assigned
Now Using the Sales order create the BILLING REQUEST in DP91
now create the Billing document in VF01 using hte Billing request in DP91
VA01DP91VF01
this is the flow
Please check and revet.
regards,
santosh -
Contract Management, Resourse Related Billing and Revenue Recongnisation
Dear SAP Experts,
Can someone help to provide me in details such as configuration step by steps, Billing types, Billing plan with T. Codes about the below.
Contract - Service/Maintainace Contract, Quantity and Value contract configuration and billing document type with Transaction codes.
Configuration steps for Resourse related billing
Configuration steps for Revenue Recongnisation and Billing plan. This is urgent.
best regards
Nain Chandhi,
The Price of a Customer-specific services are not determined by Standard Prices .
For example
Make to order production
Plant maintenace
Resource related Billing is used in the CUSTOMER SERVICE and PROJECT SYSTEMS
We use the RRB process to bill the customer for the Material consumed and the Costs incurred in the customer project.
The flow is
Create the Sales order in VA01 which has the DIP profile assigned
Now Using the Sales order create the BILLING REQUEST in DP91
now create the Billing document in VF01 using hte Billing request in DP91
VA01DP91VF01
this is the flow
Please check and revet.
regards,
santosh -
Resource related billing and service quotation
Dear gurus,
can anyone explain the process of resource related billing and service quotation in step by step.
if possible mail me the screen shots also in this email-id
[email protected]hi,
Maintaining Profiles for Sales Order and Billing Request
Use
The Dynamic Item Processor (DIP) profile defines and controls resource-related quotation and billing for service orders and sales documents. It may be maintained in either the Customer Service or the Sales and Distribution section of the IMG. The DIP profile allows flexible determination and translation of actual labor, material and other costs into sales materials for appropriate pricing and billing.
DIP profiles BC10 is used exclusively in the value chain for time and material project.
Integration
The DIP profile functionality is closely integrated with the controlling module for the processing of cost objects into sales materials.
Prerequisites
Relevant sales document types, condition records, sales materials have been created.
Procedure
Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
IMG Menu Project System ® Revenues and Earnings ® Integration with SD documents ® Creating Quotations and Project Billing ® Maintain Profiles for Quotations and Billing
Transaction Code ODP12.
Activities:
In the configuration item Profiles for Sales Order, Billing, Results Analysis, choose profiles BC12.
The DIP profile can be used for processing resource-related billing and results analysis, as well as for generating resource-related quotations. To do so, sales document types must be defined for each usage. Access the Usage section of the profile and maintain the following entries:
DI Usage SD Ty BC12
1 Billing & Results Analysis Z2TC
all other fields leave blank
Access the characteristics section of each profile. The characteristics are the objects which the system will take into consideration when processing and displaying resource-related billing. For both billing and order usages, set the characteristics as follows (note that other settings are automatically defaulted in by the system):
Characteristic Charact
Relevant Material Determ NoSummarizat. Structuring Sequence
Z2TC
Accounting Indicator X
Activity Type X X X
Object number X
Period X
Transaction Currency X X
Unit of Measure X X
all other fields leave blank
The sources section determines what type of costs will be selected by the DIP profile for each usage. More detailed selection criteria are available, but not maintained in this setting. Access the sources section of each profile and maintain the following entries:
Line Source Percentage
1 0001 Actual Cost - Line 100
Access the material determination and criteria sections of the profile. Material determination defines the sales materials that costs will be converted into. The criteria defines cost element groups (cost elements are determined from the labor activity type or the component account assignment) that correspond to each material. For both billing and quotation usages, define material determination as follows:
Material/Service Material Determination:
Transfer Quantity/Costs Material Determination:
Conversion Quantity Criteria:
Activity Type
Z2TC
I00342 X (Transfer Cost & Qty) Checked
I00984 X Checked
all other fields leave blank
To confirm that all entries and settings in the DIP profiles are consistent, go to the configuration item check profile settings. Enter the DIP profile and execute. Green traffic lights should be displayed next to all items for both usages. Otherwise, determine the inconsistency and make the necessary correction.
Go through t.code DP90
1.U will get "resource related billing request initial screen.
2.U enter ur "Srevice order", then select "Expences" button.
3.u get " Billing request for resource related billing document" Here the columns for "Open amt" and "Amt. to billed" equal the transactions that have posted to the project and have not been billed. To continue, press the "Billing request " button. The system will ask you if you really want to do this -- say "yes"
Then u will get the overview screen.
Link service order to a quotation thru transaction DP90. The quotation will be created with reference to the service order. The business scenario is that you are creating a quotation for the job to be done. The line items in the quotation are based on resources and materials planned in service order.
CHAN
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CHAN HARI -
Order related billing reference sales document line items
Hello Experts,
Is it possible to create an order related billing document to invoice by line items of the sales document? If yes, how can I do this?
Here is the scenario. I am using the service contract order type in which each line item represent a milestone (copied from the billing plan) for a project on which a network is assigned. I need to create invoices for the due milestones and their dates. Currently my invoice is picking the milestone with the latest date which is not what I want.
Please help.
LuqmanHi Krishna,
I have done that but it is not working. I made all configs and assignments for the billing plan type, order type and item categories but the invoice is still billing for line items with billing block on.
Any idea on what I need to do again or what I may have missed?
Thanks
Edited by: Luqman Abolaji on Feb 16, 2012 2:54 PM -
Intercompany Resource Related Billing RRICB
Hi Gurus,
i have a question regarding Intercompany Resource Related Billing (RRICB)
Following scenario:
Customer orders a service (e.g. programming) - Company A creates a sales order - part of the programming should be done by Company B in another country (with a different company code). So Company A creates an order for Company B - Company B creates a sales order (customer is Company A).
All efforts should be caputred by CATS - e.g. Company A captures 15 H of programming via CATS to the sales order (real Customer) and Company B captures 5 H of programming via CATS for their sales order (customer Compnay A).
Sales order from Company B is linked with Sales order from Company A. And when charging the customer effort of Company A and Company B are summed up.
Hope this is not tooo confusing.
Can this scenario be done within the RRICB??
When reading through the SAP Help Pages they always describe the scenario with WBS-Element. Is this WBS-Element mandatory or is my prefered scemario also possible.
Many thanks in advance for your replies.Hi santosh,
many thanks for your reply.
Unfortunatelly I can not test it right away on a system. I am working on possible process for a university project.
If our process is accepted we can begin to realize it in SAP.
So I have to trust in your answer -
Resourse related billing general query
Hi SD's,
I am PS consultant
Scenareo:
In contract or sales order some pricing will be done and then net value will be arrived (if I am not wrong), suppose that net value is 500 USD.
According to the actual cost in project resourse related billing done billing request for 600 USD.
What will happen. I want to ask Net value is planned value and what is the effect of above scenareo.
Regards,Dear,
Kindly put your question to PS Forum for fast answer as it is related to PS Module.
Regards
AJIT K SINGH -
Hi,
Can anybody give me some config doc on RRB or send to [email protected]
Thanking you
chanHI REFER BELOW REWARD IF HELPS
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/59/54fc37004d0a1ee10000009b38f8cf/content.htm
Resource-Related Billing
Use
The prices for services performed for individual customers are not always stored as fixed prices in a contract or determined using the standard pricing procedure. For example, you may be performing work that is wholly new for you. Typical examples of this are
Make-to-order production
External maintenance in the service company
Specific services, such as consulting
Orders like these are billed on a resource-related basis. In the billing document, the customer is provided with information on, for example, individual materials, internal activities, and costs. The billing document is based on the billing request .
Implementation Considerations
The resource-related billing function that was available before Release 4.5A ( static processing) has been replaced by an extended resource-related billing function. A conversion program (report RDPFLOW00) is provided to enable you to convert from the old to the new billing functions.
Features
Pricing
The system uses a pricing procedure to determine the prices for the subsequent billing request, based on the quantity and material. You can edit the billing request in the following views:
Expenditure view
Sales price view
For more information, see Pricing .
Application
You can use resource-related billing for the following objects:
Items in an SD document with controlling objects (that is, costs and revenues are recorded in the SD document)
Items in an SD document referencing a WBS element from a customer project
Items in an SD document referencing a production order or internal order
Non-revenue-bearing service orders referencing an item of the sales document
Revenue-bearing service orders
This means you can use resource-related billing in the Customer Service (CS), Sales and Distribution (SD),and Project System (PS) application components when processing sales and service orders.
For more information on resource-related billing in the application components, see:
Billing Process (CS)
Billing Process (PS)
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SHESAGIRI GEDILA -
Sales order status after resource related billing
Hi All,
When I am creating a resorce related billing debit memo request from DP90 with reference to a sales order, the status of my sales order item is not getting updated.
Since i am referencing my SO items in DP90, ideally the 'Referencing status' for the order items should get as 'Fully referenced'
Kindly help
AribisHi Aribis
IN IMG, in Sales and Distribution->Sales->Sales Document->Sales Document Item-> Item category, check the item configuration - one of the first fields should be completion rule, check tht it has the right completion rule, e.g. completed after full quantity has been referenced.
hope this helps
Kikas41 -
How to capture Ord-related bill.st. in a sales document item
Hi Experts,
Just want to know how will i able to capture the value of the Ord-related bill.st. in a sales document item.
Here's to give you example.
- Go to VA03 and type in a credit memo req.
- Double click on first item material.
- Go to "Status" tab and you will see the "Ord-related bill.st. under Processing status.
I want to capture the value found to this and display it in my report but I have no idea what table maintain this.
Hope you can help me with this ASAP... Sorry for the rush..
Regards,
YuHi Both,
Thanks for this! I already saw this one but I'm doubting at first if this is correct.
Nevertheless, thanks for all your answer. =)
Appreciate your help! =)
Regards,
Yu
Edited by: Aura Yu on Sep 16, 2010 12:37 PM -
Invoice is not getting created in Order related billing
Dear all,
I am trying to do a Order related billing. After creating the order i am going to VF01 and selecting the billing type i have created and trying to create the invoice. I am getting the error "No billing documents were generated. See log" when i am checking the Log its showing now errors.
In case if my account determination procedure is wrong, system should allow me to create a Sales invoice and accounting document will not be generated. But in this case even the sales invoice is also not getting created.
Please suggest me if there are any configuration changes i need to do to overcome this problem.Apart from the suggestion already given, also ensure that
the order is not showing in incomplete log
the order is not blocked for credit limit
You can also cross check in VF04 whether system is fetching that sale order. For information, once you execute VF04, by default, system will check only "Delivery related" check box. You have to manually select "Order related" check box.
G. Lakshmipathi
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