Project v Song Workflow Question

Does this sound right?
I'm recording an album. Should each song be saved as its own project? Seems logical to save one song as a project to create the folder structure, then save the rest of the songs as songs in that project.
Also, I noticed that the channel strip settings get saved in the user library on the machine. Is there an option to save them with the project so they can travel with the project when it is moved?
Please let me know what do you recommend?
My workflow:
1) I create a song from a template and save it as a project. Then I record a session into that song file, and sometimes into a 2nd or third depending on Logic's recording time/beat limit
2) I do a "save-as-song" for each song in that session, then delete all the unwanted session material/regions for that song. I save this song into the previously created project folder along side the other songs.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank!
MacBook Pro 2.33 GHz Duo, 3GB Mac OS X (10.4.9)

I'm recording an album. Should each song be saved as
its own project? Seems logical to save one song as a
project to create the folder structure, then save the
rest of the songs as songs in that project.
It makes most sense to have one project per song for recording. Each song will likely have different tempos, maybe different time signatures, MIDI data, different audio elements (vocals, instruments) each with unique processing and levels, different virtual instruments and different DSP. Also you are limited by the number of bars in one project although there is a work-around with that limitation.
While it is possible to accomadate all of those different elements above into one project, it would be mayhem to manage it.
This is true for any DAW. Usually one session or project is created per song.
Also, I noticed that the channel strip settings get
saved in the user library on the machine. Is there
an option to save them with the project so they can
travel with the project when it is moved?
When you start up a new song it is good to chose the make project option in the template window. If you've started a song and didn't do this, it is easily done by chosing to make song into project from the pull down menu. This is in the manual - both the book and within Logic's help menu.
I create a song from a template and save it
as a project.
Perfect. This will suit your needs as above. When you get to the mixing stage you may want to save a number of versions - each under a different project name to have options/choices.
2) I do a "save-as-song" for each song in that
session, then delete all the unwanted session
material/regions for that song.
Save as song updates your project file(s) if you created a project for the song. I am a bit confused as to what you mean by session. Some people call each project a session. Again ... I would go with one song per project.
You can assemble your songs later when mastering. This will likely not be done in Logic. Maybe it will .. .either way ... one song per project.
It's a good idea to get rid of unwanted elements as you go - if you are sure you do not need them. This is good to do as you go as you may well end up with tons of projects and have to revisit them much later on to make room on your drive.
My two cents. Hope it helps/.
Dee

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    ===  LOG: This bind starts in default load context.  LOG: Using application configuration file: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office Servers\14.0\Bin\Microsoft.Office.Project.Server.Queuing.exe.config  LOG: Using machine configuration file from
    C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\config\machine.config.  LOG: Po... b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:37.96* Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        98d8 Unexpected ...st-policy
    reference: UMT.CostModule.Workflow, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=4ec97d0ba92f048f  LOG: The same bind was seen before, and was failed with hr = 0x80070002.       --- End of inner exception stack trace
    ---     at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)     at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder,
    Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)     at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceImpl(BindingFlags bindingAttr, Binder binder, Object[] args, CultureInfo culture, Object[] activationAttributes)     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.LoadPluggableClass(String
    classname, String assembly, Object[] parameters)     at Microsoft.SharePoint... b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:37.96* Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        98d8 Unexpected ....Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.GetService(SPWorkflowAssociation
    association, SPWorkflowEngine engine)     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.RunWorkflowElev(SPWorkflow workflow, Collection`1 events, SPWorkflowRunOptionsInternal runOptions) b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.06  w3wp.exe (0x183C)                        0x1520 SharePoint Foundation        
     Topology                       e5mc Medium   WcfSendRequest: RemoteAddress: 'http://np2epms600v:32843/e088435160fb48758ab14cf625ed7499/MetadataWebService.svc'
    Channel: 'Microsoft.SharePoint.Taxonomy.IMetadataWebServiceApplication' Action: 'http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/taxonomy/soap/IDataAccessReadOnly/GetChanges' MessageId: 'urn:uuid:cb6b4635-9c5f-4ad4-b755-0e5fb699d335' 
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.07  w3wp.exe (0x0CD4)                        0x1D24 SharePoint Foundation        
     Topology                       e5mb Medium   WcfReceiveRequest: LocalAddress: 'http://np2epms600v.corp.halliburton.com:32843/e088435160fb48758ab14cf625ed7499/MetadataWebService.svc'
    Channel: 'System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel' Action: 'http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/taxonomy/soap/IDataAccessReadOnly/GetChanges' MessageId: 'urn:uuid:cb6b4635-9c5f-4ad4-b755-0e5fb699d335' a6d541cf-f5b9-4c7b-9e6b-d2637dd025b6
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.07  w3wp.exe (0x0CD4)                        0x1D24 SharePoint Foundation        
     Monitoring                     nasq Medium   Entering monitored scope (ExecuteWcfServerOperation) a6d541cf-f5b9-4c7b-9e6b-d2637dd025b6
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.07  w3wp.exe (0x0CD4)                        0x1D24 SharePoint Server            
     Taxonomy                       fuc5 Medium   MetadataWebServiceApplication.GetChanges called on 'Managed Metadata Service' starting. a6d541cf-f5b9-4c7b-9e6b-d2637dd025b6
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.08  w3wp.exe (0x0CD4)                        0x1D24 SharePoint Server            
     Taxonomy                       fuc6 Medium   MetadataWebServiceApplication.GetChanges called on 'Managed Metadata Service' completed. a6d541cf-f5b9-4c7b-9e6b-d2637dd025b6
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.08  w3wp.exe (0x0CD4)                        0x1D24 SharePoint Foundation        
     Monitoring                     b4ly Medium   Leaving Monitored Scope (ExecuteWcfServerOperation). Execution Time=4.88944823992994 a6d541cf-f5b9-4c7b-9e6b-d2637dd025b6
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.12  Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        72fq Unexpected Start
    Workflow: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'UMT.CostModule.Workflow, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=4ec97d0ba92f048f'
    or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.  File name: 'UMT.CostModule.Workflow, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=4ec97d0ba92f048f'     at System.Reflection.Assembly._nLoad(AssemblyName fileName,
    String codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, Assembly locationHint, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean forIntrospection)     at System.Reflection.Assembly.InternalLoad(AssemblyName assemblyRef, Evidence assemblySecurity,
    StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Bo... b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.12* Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        72fq Unexpected ...olean
    forIntrospection)     at System.Reflection.Assembly.InternalLoad(String assemblyString, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean forIntrospection)     at System.Reflection.Assembly.Load(String
    assemblyString)     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.ServiceConfigurationElement.get_AssemblyObject()     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.ServiceConfigurationElement.get_ClassType()     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowExternalDataExchangeServiceCollection.Add(ServiceConfigurationElement
    serviceCfg)     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWinOeHostServices.EnsurePluggableServices(SPSite site, SPWorkflowExternalDataExchangeServiceCollection services, ExternalDataExchangeService existingServices)     at
    Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWinOeHostServices..ctor(SPSite ... b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.12* Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        72fq Unexpected ...site,
    SPWeb web, SPWorkflowManager manager, SPWorkflowEngine engine)    === Pre-bind state information ===  LOG: User = HALAMERICA\fhouspepmadmd  LOG: DisplayName = UMT.CostModule.Workflow, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=4ec97d0ba92f048f 
    (Fully-specified)  LOG: Appbase = file:///C:/Program Files/Microsoft Office Servers/14.0/Bin/  LOG: Initial PrivatePath = NULL  Calling assembly : Microsoft.SharePoint, Version=14.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=71e9bce111e9429c. 
    ===  LOG: This bind starts in default load context.  LOG: Using application configuration file: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office Servers\14.0\Bin\Microsoft.Office.Project.Server.Queuing.exe.config  LOG: Using machine configuration file from
    C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\config\machine.... b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.12* Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        72fq Unexpected ...config. 
    LOG: Post-policy reference: UMT.CostModule.Workflow, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=4ec97d0ba92f048f  LOG: The same bind was seen before, and was failed with hr = 0x80070002.       --- End of inner exception
    stack trace ---     at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)     at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr,
    Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)     at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceImpl(BindingFlags bindingAttr, Binder binder, Object[] args, CultureInfo culture, Object[] activationAttributes)     at
    Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.LoadPluggableClass(String classname, String assembly, Object[] parameters)     at Micr... b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.12* Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 SharePoint Foundation          Workflow Infrastructure        72fq Unexpected ...osoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.GetService(SPWorkflowAssociation
    association, SPWorkflowEngine engine)     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.RunWorkflowElev(SPWorkflow workflow, Collection`1 events, SPWorkflowRunOptionsInternal runOptions)     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Workflow.SPWorkflowManager.StartWorkflowElev(Object
    context, SPWorkflowAssociation association, DateTime elevationTimeUtc, SPWorkflowEvent startEvent, SPWorkflowRunOptions runOptions) b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.12  Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 Project Server                 Project Server Workflow      
     ai7z Verbose  Error is: WorkflowExceptionStartingWorkflow. Details: . Standard Information: PSI Entry Point:   Project User: HALAMERICA\H139933  Correlation Id: b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932  PWA Site URL:
    http://devpsepm4tech.corp.halliburton.com/PWA  SSP Name: Project Server Service Application  PSError: WorkflowExceptionStartingWorkflow (35115) b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.13  Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x1C20 Project Server                 General                      
     b0ry Medium   PWA:http://devpsepm4tech.corp.halliburton.com/PWA, ServiceApp:Project Server Service Application, User:HALAMERICA\H139933, PSI: [ProjectServerError] Mismatched Attributes for PSErrorID WorkflowCannotChangeWorkflow. List of
    defined attributes: none. List of provided values: 05c80469-125d-44bc-853b-b906f7e1076a, Microsoft.Office.Project.Server.BusinessLayer.QueueMsg.WorkflowChangeWorkflowMessage, 1, DontBlock. b72f3008-fc65-400c-815d-393ccd1c8932
    09/19/2014 02:04:38.13  Microsoft.Office.Project.Server (0x100C) 0x0178 Project Server                 Queue                        
     954
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  • Songs w/ questions marks, how to get rid of all them easily.

    I have lots of songs that are somehow related to a previous libray. I have two copies of most songs, but, one copy has 'question' mark next to it when you attemp to play it, and it says it cannot locate original file, would I like to locate it. I just want to know how to easily delete/remove all the songs with questions marks.

    I wouldn't call this an easy answer- but there's a method to my madness. Hear me out.
    In your Music library, go to File > Show Duplicates. Sort by Song Name. You can select each one with the exclamation point next to it by holding down your Command key and clicking each one. When you've selected them all, hit Delete, and you're set. If you have selected all the right ones, it will NOT ask you if you want to move the files to the Trash.
    The reason this is preferable to some other method is that your missing song might contain metadata that your newer songs do not- like rating, grouping, genre, etc. If you Show Duplicates and have your important view options chosen, you can make sure you transfer all the right info from the old song to the new one.
    It's not elegant, but it works.

  • Workflow question: removing images from project

    How can I tell Aperture to remove a file from its database without removing it from the hard drive? My workflow is:
    1. Import images to a Transfer folder
    2. Edit images
    3. Move remaining images to a folder with the shoot name, under a Photos folder
    In Aperture, I've got a Photos project, with Albums for each shoot name folder and I've got a Transfer project that the unediting shoot is in. After I edited my first shoot in 1.5, I used the Relocate Master command to move the files of the shoot to the new folder in the Finder. I then made a new Album under the Photos project and copied the photos from Transfer to the new Album. That all worked great. As a last step, I wanted to remove the photos from the Transfer project. However, I can't: I can only delete the original file, which will delete it from the hard drive. I can't figure out how to tell Aperture to simply stop managing a file. It's really basic issue but it's stopping me from using Aperture to manage my library (or at least do it efficiently).

    Wow, I was really tired when I posted that. No, you were correct the first time: I was looking to delete images and for that your suggestion worked perfectly.
    What I was doing when I asked the second question was re-arranging my library in Aperture. I decided to remove everything and to use a structure that has a Folder labelled "Photos" at the top level, then multiple Projects below that, each named with a year. In each Project, there are albums for that year's shoots.
    Before I removed the old structure, I exported out as a Project the last shoot I edited. Pre-1.5, I never bothered keeping editing images in Aperture - I just used it as a tool for editing the shoot. However, now that Aperture can reference external files (i.e., I'm not worried about its database), I can keep the editing images and their modifications in Aperture (modifications like keywords and image adjustments). So, after creating my new structure, I wanted to import all the editing images of my last shoot; sort of kicking off my greater use of Aperture. However, after importing the Project, I couldn't figure out how to move the images into the new shoot Album, in my "2006" Project. Hence my "can't move images"-post to you.
    Your tip about dragging into the Project, not the Album, worked great, moving the images into their new place. Last night (morning, actually), my clumsy workaround was to drag the edited images into the new shoot album, then import the originals again, then use the stamp tool to copy the changes from the exisiting images to the new ones. I then deleted the images I'd imported via the existing Project. Much more of a pain than knowning what you told me!
    Thanks again.
    fh

  • (workflow question) - What is the best way to handle audio in a large Premiere project?

    Hey all,
    This might probably be suitable for any version of Premiere, but just in case, I use CS4 (Master Collection)
    I am wrestling in my brain about the best way to handle audio in my project to cut down on the time I am working on it.
    This project I just finished was a 10 minute video for a customer shot on miniDV (HVX-200) cut down from 3 hours of tape.
    I edited my whole project down to what looked good, and then I decided I needed to clean up all the Audio using Soundbooth, So I had to go in clip by clip, using the Edit in SoundBooth --> Render and Replace method on every clip. I couldn't find a way to batch edit any audio in Soundbooth.
    For every clip, I performed similar actions---
    1) both tracks of audio were recorded with 2 different microphones (2 mono tracks), so I needed only audio from 1 track - I used SB to cut and paste the good track over the other track.
    2) amplified the audio
    3) cleaned up the background noise with the noise filter
    I am sure there has to be a better workflow option than what I just did (going clip by clip), Can someone give me some advice on how best to handle audio in a situation like this?
    Should I have just rendered out new audio for the whole tape I was using, and then edit from that?
    Should I have rendered out the audio after I edited the clips into one long track and performed the actions I needed on it? or something entirely different? It was a very slow, tedious process.
    Thanks,
    Aza

    Hi, Aza.
    Given that my background is audio and I'm just coming into the brave new world of visual bits and bytes, I would second Hunt's recommendation regarding exporting the entire video's audio as one wav file, working on it, and then reimporting. I do this as one of the last stages, when I know I have the editing done, with an ear towards consistency from beginning to end.
    One of the benefits of this approach is that you can manage all audio in the same context. For example, if you want to normalize, compress or limit your audio, doing it a clip at a time will make it difficult for you to match levels consistently or find a compression setting that works smoothly across the board. It's likely that there will instead be subtle or obvious differences between each clip you worked on.
    When all your audio is in one file you can, for instance, look at the entire wave form, see that limiting to -6 db would trim off most of the unnecessary peaks, triim it down, and then normalize it all. You may still have to do some tweaking here and there, but it gets you much farther down the road, much more easily.Same goes for reverb, EQ or other effects where you want the same feel throughout the entire video.
    Hope this helps,
    Chris

  • Workflow question - IMAC and MacPro combination

    Hi
    QUESTION: what is the simplest workflow to pass an FCP project created on a laptop in the field to the home base desktop?
    BACKGROUND: FCP allows a licensed user to have FCP installed on a desktop and a laptop - as long as only one is hooked to the internet. I've used this set up to capture footage on the laptop in the field and do some simple editing. Right now, I don't have enough Gigabytes on the laptop to store hi-def files. So I just purchased a G-TECH 200GB mini hard-drive, which works slick with the laptop.
    When I'm on the road, shooting, I want the ability to do some editing before I get back to home base. I can do that with the laptop and mini setup. However, I'm not sure how to set up the FCP video file structure on the IMAC and LAPTOP so that I can pass an FCP project to the IMAC and have it fetch the project without getting 100 error message that needed footage, files etc.. is offline.
    I'm thinking about firewire chaining my LaCie hard drives AND the G-Tech and then setting the video structure for FCP exactly the same on both the IMAC and Laptop. I would think that the laptop - when in the field - will not find the LaCie's and will dump everything and retrieve from the G-TECH mini hard-drive. Then, when at home, I pass the laptop FCP project to the Imac (with the mini now on the IMAC hard-drive chain).
    That seems like a work-around. Is there a correct and standard workflow for this situation?

    starinova wrote:
    FCP allows a licensed user to have FCP installed on a desktop and a laptop - as long as only one is hooked to the internet.
    More like as long as only one is used at a time.
    Anyway, When you capture FCP should store all your footage files in a folder that has the same name as the project. This folder will be inside Capture Scratch, and Capture Scratch's location is set in System Settings in the Final Cut Pro menu.
    When you move from system 1 to system 2 just copy that folder (the one inside Capture Scratch, the one named for your project) from system 1's Capture Scratch folder to system 2's Capture Scratch folder. Obviously copy the .fcp project file too.
    FCP might launch and say it can't find your 100 media files because the path to the media has changed. This is no problem, just point it to the first file and it should find the rest.

  • Workflow Question: 24p (Varicam) Masters, 29.97 down converts for offline

    I know in part this question has been raised here before, and I know the Cinema Tools method for getting back to 24p... but I would like to discuss briefly the pending workflow on a project I am about to begin with someone who has tackled this before.
    I am cutting a feature, shot on Varicam at 24p. The film has already been rough cut in FCP and I am inheriting the project to re-work the rough cut and "on-line" finish the film. The initial editor did not reverse telecine the clips before cutting, so all the clips and the timeline are in 29.97. I know I could finish the off-line using the DV footage, then reverse telecine the EDL to on-line back to the 24p HD masters, but there are a few other issues.
    First, there is over 19 hours of original scenes that currently make up a 2 hr rough cut. This cut needs a pretty extensive re-edit before it's ready for the sound designer to step in, maybe 2-4 weeks of work. The FCP project has not been broken down by scenes, just master clips for each reel (yikes!). I am not confident in the audio that is on these DV tapes and I would prefer to work with the original HD source to finish the job, as the audio editing will fall mostly to me to accomplish. This project will also need extensive color timing as well. From a general workflow standpoint, I feel that if I had all the HD loaded, and re-organized by scene that I could work more efficiently to finish all the aspect of this film.
    So the nuts and bolts of my question is this. Can I convert both the timeline AND the already logged master clips to 24p so that I can load in the HD as whole reel clips as they currently are logged and refer back to the timeline? I want to work from the existing timeline, but also have ALL the footage loaded in as HD 24p so I can sub clip by scene and rework the cut.
    Thanks in advance.

    HD isn't as simple as SD...not by a long shot. With SD, we captured offline at 29.97, and then onlined at 29.97. The biggest thing to worry about was that our shoot masters were 29.97 NDF but stock footage was 29.97DF, and that tended to mess up EDLs for the online.
    But then comes HD. 720p...1080i...1080p. 23.98, 24, 29.97, 59.94. So many options...things got really complex. Now with HD you really need to know what your deliverable is...even before you shoot. Because everything is geared toward getting that final master. You CAN proceed without knowing that, but then getting the proper master will require more hoop jumping. So, at this point, you need to figure out what you want to deliver and work towards that. 1080 23.98psf HDCAM? 720p 59.94 D5? 1080i 29.97 HDCAM? You have to figure this out.
    Editing 24p footage from the Varicam (which translates to 23.98) at 29.97 DV was a poor choice. DVCPRO HD 720p24 isn't even twice the file size of DV. DV is 3.6MB/s, and DVCPRO HD 720p24 is 5.4MB/s...so editing native would have been the wise choice. But that is moot. Moving on.
    When I edited a 16mm film...shot on 16mm, telecined to HDCAM at 23.98...I captured DV downconverts that ran at 29.97. I asked the post facility doing the online if I should do it at 29.97, or should I reverse telecine to 23.98...they said stick with 29.97, so I did. Then we changed post facilities and they said I really should have been editing at 23.98...because I have now made the online rather tricky. But this is what they had me do. Export an EDL of the 29.97 timeline. Use Cinema Tools to convert that from a 30fps EDL to a 24fps EDL. Then give them this and the final project. They were able to rebuild the cut, with some issues where I had speed changes, but they did it.
    So what you need to do now, is find the place that will be doing the online, and get someone there to get this thing where it needs to be. It isn't as simple as recapturing at 29.97 or 59.94. The footage was shot at 59.94, but with flags set to make it 23.98 when captured. If you had a Kona or Decklink capture card, you could capture it at 59.94, but that format won't match up with the 29.97 EDL...different time base. And you cannot capture 59.94 as 29.97...not unless the footag was flagged in the camera as 720p30.
    This is a very complex situation and I have barely scratched the surface. THis is why you need help from an HD expert, preferrably someone from the post facility where you will be doing the online.
    Shane

  • Another HPX3000 Project - DVCProHD/50/AJA Question

    We have another job coming down the pipes that will be shot on a Panasonic HPX3000. We recently completed one that ended up being a nightmare because the prodco shot it using the AVCIntra codec and it ended up being a couple extra solid days of transcoding before I could even edit. (See following thread...)
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8126909&#8126909
    This time, our Avid editor will be editing it on a Meridien Media Composer (he doesn't know FCP), so my plan is to load the footage using my MacBook Pro, FCP 6.0.4, AJA ioHD, Caldigit SVRDuo 1.5TB RAID setup again and downcovert the footage to letterboxed SD. The project will be finished this way anyway.
    Questions:
    Can I directly import P2 footage shot with this camera if it's shot utilizing the DVCProHD codec or the DVCPro 50 SD codec and not have to transcode on the MacBook Pro to ProRes422 for realtime play back through the AJA ioHD?
    If I have to transcode, is it a lot faster than transcoding from AVCIntra? It's 3-1/2 hours of footage, so it's quite a lot.
    Thanks in advance.

    This time, our Avid editor will be editing it on a Meridien Media Composer
    He REALLY needs to upgrade his system if he wants to start working with all this new fangled tapeless technology. OR you need to import this footage into an Avid Media Composer (the new one...3.0, or even 2.8) and then transcode it to SD OMFI that the older machine can recognize. That would be the best method...barring the man simply upgrading. It is silly cheap now.
    The way you are doing it will cause a lot of loss. Importing...fine. Down converting to SD...compression. Bring to Avid...have it import and convert to OMFI...compression. And you have to choose a format that the Avid can actually see and import. DVCPRO 50..not it. ProRes, sure, there in a decoder for that. but a Meridian...that is on OS9 I'll wager. Won't work.
    Test a small clip and see. But this is a poor workflow, IMHO.
    Can I directly import P2 footage shot with this camera if it's shot utilizing the DVCProHD codec or the DVCPro 50 SD codec and not have to transcode on the MacBook Pro to ProRes422 for realtime play back through the AJA ioHD?
    YOu can only import the P2 footage as the format it was shot. If you need it to be a different codec, you have to do that later. And you do not need to transcode it to anything in order for the I/O HD to play it. It will play it in the natural format you imported it as.
    If I have to transcode, is it a lot faster than transcoding from AVCIntra? It's 3-1/2 hours of footage, so it's quite a lot.
    DUnno. Probably the same time. The only formats that take a LONG time are the long GOP ones.
    -shane

  • After Effects - Premiere Pro workflow question...

    Hi,
    I have a basic question about workflow between AE and PP.
    I'm editing an acting reel for a client which deals with a lot of different footage and bits and pieces here and there.
    We already converted all the footage to DV-AVI - tweaking, color correction and effects are done in AE.
    Here's the question that I'm thinking about:
    Should I work on all my footage in AE first and then import it into PP for editing OR should I edit everything the way I wanna have it and then import it into AE for the tweaking.
    Advantages for both options that come to my (newbie) mind:
    AE first then PP
    1. Final editing is done in PP which gives me flexibility if I wanna change things later editing wise
    2. PP exporting options are huge - don't know if AE can compare to that
    3. could import to PP via Dynamic link which saves me the hassle of exporting each little clip from AE to a lossless format - as mentioned we have lot's of different footage and little bits and pieces here and there
    PP first the AE
    1. if u apply a lot of effects, Dynamic link is a pain to scrub through the footage in PP because it takes so much time to render through the link - with exporting a final edited version from PP and then importing into AE would make things go a little bit smoother
    2. I would have more flexiblity if I wanna change any effects in AE
    What would u suggest ?
    Thanx for your help in advance !!
    Mike

    Mylenium,
    thanx again for your input.
    Reading your posts - and PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong - it seems like the workflow would be:
    1. PP for rough cut, then
    2. AE for tweaking
    3. back to PP for the final cut, export etc., since AE does not have the editing tools needed (transitions etc.)
    But, as I did some testing the last two hours it is almost impossible getting PP projects into AE.
    I read the manual and tried the following:
    a. importing a PP project file into AE via the Import --> File dialog.
    I specified only one PP sequence to be imported - it did import all of the footage of the PP project (including the footage that is not needed) and it imported 3 (not one) sequences, including the one I specified.
    Besides that, the sequence is unusable - the in & out points of the footage are totally wrong - the transition I applied (dip-to-black) was unavailable.
    I re-tried it without transitions but the in & out points of the footage are absolutely wrong.
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