Promise 378 SATA Raid question

Can someone tell me if my SATA drives are setup correctly given the details below? The only driver that works is the FastTrak 378 (not the SATA 378 driver). I want to make sure I am taking full advantage of my SATA drives. In the Promise setup it shows them operating as "Mode U5". What is this?
Any help appreciated.
My Drive COnfiguration is as follows:
SATA Drives are on SATA3 & SATA4 (Promise 378 Controller)
(as RAID 0 for performance)
Primary IDE Master - Sony DVD/RW
Primary IDE Slave - not used
Secondary IDE Master - ASUS DVD ROM
Secondary IDE Slave - ATA 133 Drive bay (Empty)
3rd IDE Master&Slave - not used
On Board Promise settings
FastTrak 378 BIOS Ver 1.00.0.27
2+0 Stripe - Functional
HIT CTRL+F for setup and
(in the setup it shows RAID 0 Drive Array as Mode U5)
Bios Settings
Boot Device Priority
1 - Floppy
2 - ASUS DVD ROM
3 - BBS-0(RAID):FT 378 Ary 1
On Board Promise IDE - As RAID
On Chip ATA's Operation Mode - Legacy Mode
ATA Configuration - PATA only
SATA Keep enabled - no
* PATA Keep enabled - no
PATA channel selection - both
* Combined Mode Option - PATA First Channel
* SATA Ports Definition - P0-3rd/P1-4th
* Configure SATA as Raid - no
(where * is greyed out)
Bios sees both DVD ROM & Sony DVD/RW
Boot to CDROM
Start Windows 2000 install
F6
"S"
load Promise FastTrak 378 Controller
Windows 2000 setup continues...

Everything looks good to me. Like Danny said though, you will need to change Bios to "Native Mode" for the Intel controller if you ever intend to use the Serial connectors. If not you're fine.
Also it's not clear from your post if you understand that you are using the 2 SATA drives as a Raid array. This gives you better drive performance but increases the chance of losing data. MAKE REGULAR BACKUPS.
The Promise SATA drivers are for using the Serial1&2, IDE3 connectors with single/separate drives where Raid arrays are not used.

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Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
1. If I only install one SATA drive I have to set it up as a RAID anyway right? Wrong?
2. If I install two SATA drives I have to set it up as a RAID as well right? Wrong?
3. If I install two SATA drives and set up a RAID
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Intel ICH5R or Promise 378 as S-ATA HDD controller?

Which one is better and faster choice? My pc configuration is shown in my signature.
Which of the controllers will give me better performance?
Thanks in advance...

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Since Promise 378 s running on PCI bus, while ICH5R SATA has its 100MHz clock locked and independent of overclocking, I am interested to know whether overclocking the PCI bus and hence increase the performance of Promise 378 SATA RAID devices would show any improvement over the ICH5R? ATA100 or ATA133 doesn't make much difference as our HDD nowadays are still running quite slow.

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Motherboard: MS-6728 865PE Neo2
Main BIOS: AMI v2.5 29th Sep 2004
Promise 378 BIOS: v1.00.0.27
Disks connected to promise S-ATA RAID connectors: 2 x Seagate ST2500630 500 Gb SATA2
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If the array actually does identify OK and XP boots, trying to format the drive gives lots of these device timeouts in the system event log:
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