Promise Ultra ATA-100 (20265) puts drives in PIO 4

Before I get to the problem, here's my hardware:
- Maxtor D740X Ultra DMA133 80GB
- IBM Deskstar 60GXP (supports UDMA100)
- MS-6915, BIOS 2.01 (build 34) (Promise Ultra100 Controller that was bundled with the 694D-Pro board
- MS-6321 (694D-Pro motherboard, BIOS version 1.9)
Onto the problem:
I have the drives setup to both masters with no slaves attached; the IBM is on IDE 1 & the Maxtor is on IDE 2. When they're both connected, the ultra 100 controller uses PIO 4 mode for both disks. If I disconnect one of the drives, the controller uses Ultra DMA 5. --as I said, this works for either drive when it's alone, but not for both at the same time.
I don't know if the promise controller has a flashable bios, but if it does, I'm thinking that that may help. However, I'm having trouble finding any information on the subject.
In short, I want to use both hard drives in ultra dma 5 mode at the same time!
Any ideas? ?(

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Originally posted by sean168
Hi I am using a PCI based adaptor card (SYBA) for ATA133. I am using a WDC ATA100 harddisk 40G connected to this card.
SYBA is using a Silicon Image Chipset. I am running WinXP.
Does anyone knows how to tell whether my harddisk is running at ATA100?
Regards
You will need some software utility from either Syba or Silicon Image.

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You mean, that it is during detection of ATA-devices computer powers off? If that should happen, I would never use a WD disk on this system. Halting is one thing, but powering off like that is unknown to me. Seems dangerous, if it is true.
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yep im thinking the same thats why didnt recommend others i also didnt think PSU overload with WD instead Fudjitsu... gona search alile for this util(its pretty old)
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