Promise VTrak E-Class 16 x SATA RAID & Mavericks

Hello,
Can anyone tell me whether this legacy RAID is still supported in MAC OS X Mavericks?
Chhers,
-Mark

yes I'm still using mine just fine

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Promise VTrak E Class RAID/Mac OS X Server

Hi Everyone,
I am new to setting one of these up but we have a new Apple certified Promise VTrak E Class, 16TB unit that I have configured with a little help from some work colleagues and info on Apple's website. It's not rocket science, but it is looking that way. I have created two disk arrays, RAID 6, 4.5TB and 5.5TB, spare logical drives, assigned a primary controller, configured IP addresses for each controller, LUN Masking with (Port World Wide Name) as outlined on the Xserves Fibre Channel card, etc. On the Xserve, Disk Utility took a very long time to identify the Promise Drive (4.5TB) and when I try to partition it, the "Creating Partition Map" progress bar gets to about 10% and stops. I left it overnight to continue in the case it would take a long time, same position 12 hours later. I used GUID partition scheme. My question is, what partition scheme is best utilised for these things? The Promise 4.5TB VTrak E610 appears in Disk Utility but the 5.5TB disk does not. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I'll be looking into configuring the unit with a imported script done automatically.
Cheers,
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yes I'm still using mine just fine

Neo2 BIOS 3.3 Disables VIA SATA Raid AND Promise IDE3 RESOLVED

I recently corrputed my VIA SATA Raid installation of Windows by overclocking my FSB. I have since read that you can't do this, and I definitely learned my lesson.
But in the process of attempting recovery, I upgraded my BIOS from 1.8 to 3.3. (I know, didn't really keep up on that =)
Now I have a strange problem. I can't have both the Promise controller ENABLED as well as the VIA SATA enabled. During boot, if the Promise controller is Enabled and has an IDE HDD plugged into it (important!) which was created by this Promise controller a few months ago, the VIA SATA section of BIOS boot does not show up. It will not even show the text where it is looking for attached drives. Herein lies the problem.
Here are a few scenarios. If I unplug all drives from the Promise IDE connector, but leave it enabled, it will proceed to the VIA section of BIOS boot right after the Realtek initialization. It will also show the VIA section of the BIOS boot if I disable the Promise in the Integrated Devices section of the BIOS.
But, if I leave a single drive connected to the Promise IDE connector, and have them both enabled in BIOS (VIA "On Board" is ENABLED and Promise is set to RAID) then the only boot options I see are the Promise section, where it will correctly identify the IDE drive connected to it (remember, it was made a drive by that very same controller chip a few months back) and then proceed to the Realtek initialization. After that, there is no VIA section at all.
Interestingly, if you hit DEL to go into setup anytime during the scenario where there is no VIA init section, the VIA SATA drives do not show up on the Boot Sequence at all. It is like it is not there at all, which I suspected since it wasn't showing up during BIOS boot.
SO. This leaves me with the unfortunate scenario of not being able to use one or the other. The only thing I can think of is that I updated my BIOS revision. Please, is someone able to duplicate this, or is there a known workaround? I would hate to lose half of the functionality of the mboard as far as additional controllers goes.
I will add my config below just in case that helps:
K8T Neo 2
AMD 3500+
2 x Kingston 3500 HyperX 512
Antec NeoPower 480w
2 x 36GB Raptors SATA (Drives I am attempting to run on VIA for boot)
2 x IDE drives (Maxtor 250GB and WD 160GB) on the Promise IDE 3 channel (sometimes anyway =)
2 x CD ROM on IDE 1
2 x IDE drives (WD 60GB and WD 120GB) on IDE 2 (I leave these unplugged during windows install and T/S'ing this problem)
ATI Radeon X800XTPE
I hope that is all you would need to know about the box.
Thanks for your ideas.

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 09-April-05, 22:52:31
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=608&kind=1
I trslly would suggest first though to do a Bios reset and then re-examine the problems if any and let's see if we can track and sort them out.
The first thing I found odd is that you claimed to have updated the Bios from 1.8 and there is no version 1.8 for the Neo2's. Their Bios range starts at 3.0 and that is the lowest number you should have been at.
Second let's take a look at your Bios settings. Typically when you flash a Bios you have to go back and reset the bios again to what is needed for your rig. Otherwise the default settings may not allow you to run your system at all properly.
I appreciate your looking at this with me Tiresmoke. You must be right on the previous BIOS version. It is my original Neo that I am thinking of for 1.8. Now that you mention that, I don't know what the previous BIOS version is, but I am now going to assume it was the original.
Tracking through it though has been strange. Another change I noticed is that my RAM would no longer run at DDR400. It was stuck at DDR333 no matter what I did. I had to move the Kingston 3500 that I had from 1/2 to 1/3 to get it to work. Something must have changed in the BIOS update to make that happen, as it was running fine before that, and differences in operation at that level have nothing to do with whether I corrupted my RAID based windows install.
The boot order is as follows:
1) Promise Controller (Press CTRL + F)
2) Realtek LAN Boot (Press SHIFT + F10)
>
3) VIA RAID Controller.
It is #3 that will not show up if there is a drive attached to the Promise controller. This has got me completely stumped. Is there a direction we can go with T/S'ing this?
Thx.

Promise 20378 sata raid ide controller: this device doesn't start

My WinXp Promise Fast Track 376/378 (tm) Controller doesn't start, despite installing the right drivers for vista and xp. Ik have a 40 gig Maxtor disk attached to the IDE port of the controller aangesloten. Het Fast Track bios sees this disk correctly. The disk is o.k. since I can access its contents while running Linux Kubunty gutsy gibbon. What is wrong with the windows drivers?
My system:
M/B = MSI KT6 Delta FIS2R
CPU = AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+
RAM = 1GB Twinmos M2G9016A-TT pc 3200 Cl2.5
VGA = Ati Radeon 9600 series
HDD = 2x Maxtor 6Y120M0 via raid-0, Maxtor 91303D6 IDE1 master, Maxtor 6Y060L0 IDE2 master, Maxtor 54610H6 promise IDE master
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OSS = XP Pro SP2, Vista Ult., Kubuntu Gibbon 32bits, Suse 10.3 32 bits

Quote from: Fredrik Åsenius on 14-November-07, 05:57:51
Hello!
Is SATA/RAID enabled in BIOS?
Have you hit F6 during Windows installation, for allowing Windows Set-up to locate the drivers?
If SATA/RAID was disabled, it wouldn't even appear in Device Manager
If the RAID is secondary storage, then hitting F6 won't acheive anything as Windows is already installed
You will however need to go into the RAID BIOS and create an array before you can use the RAIDed disks

Promise Vtrak

I'm looking for anyone who may have experience using the NON-APPLE Promise Vtrak systems.
I'm just wondering if there really IS a difference between the Apple version and the regular one. Promise says that the "apple firmware" is installed and you get Apple support from promise.
Anyone have experience with any rack mounted RAID's other than Apple????
thanks!

Generally speaking, storage is storage. The Promise partnership is mostly surrounding official support for Xsan. This is not to say that you can not use other storage vendors hardware for Xsan. Products from Active Storage and from NexSan are capable solutions. For the most "Apple Xserve RAID" experience, go with Active's Xraid. The unit is well made and there is good support. Plus you can not beat the ease of setup. If you are looking for even larger arrays, check out the SATA-Beast and beyond from NexSan. Lacie, Rorke, and others have storage also. And while I can not state experience with the other Promise devices, I am sure they will work fine with Apple servers.
Hope that helps

Is it possible to directly connect two Xserves with a Promise VTrak E610fD via Fibre?

I have two Xserves and I'd like to connect them with a Promise VTrak E610fD. As this storage has two controllers, I'd like to connect both Xserve with both controllers. Is this setup possible? Can I access (read and write) the same disk array with both Xserves simultaneously (Xsan?) or do I have to create two separate arrays?

Hello bleistift, and welcome to the AppleBoards,
Fibre channel is SCSI which means that any device connected by fibre assumes it is in sole control of that device. When you attach more than one machine via fibre both machines assume they are in control and unexpected behaviors and data corruption ensues. SAN (like Apple's XSAN) provides a layer of arbitration over the shares allowing multiple fibre connections to play nicely with one another while still being connected over fibre.
You could easily connect two machines to a single RAID box if they are accessing different RAID volumes at the same time, but once you start connecting to the same data at the same time you need SAN.
HTH,
=Tod

SATA RAID 0 and Drive Imaging Software

I recently bought True Image 8.0 and it hangs during image restore. The Acronis forums indicate that many people have had problems using True Image with the promise 378 SATA controllers. I have a few of questions:
1. Is anyone using True Image successfully in combination with the Promise 378 SATA controllers? If so, what version?
2. With the VIA controllers? If so, what version?
3. Are there other drive imaging Software (Norton Ghost, Drive Image, etc.) that are known to work with SATA RAID 0 & the Promise 378 controller?

Ghost 2004 working on VIA SATA here..
...although the mobo is a POS and I'm RMAing it that much DOES work. heh
Ian

3ware SATA RAID-controller drivers?

Anyone knows is 3ware SATA RAID-controllers supported in Solaris 10 x86?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=398
K7N2G-ILSR
is board with promise raid and vga

Moving SATA RAID 0 array

Any tips on how to move a SATA RAID 0 array between machines? Is it possible? Array was set up on an NF3 chipset. Can it be moved to an NF4 or 5, or even an Intel or Promise? If it includes the boot partition can you use Win XP Pro repair console to install correct Win XP drivers, asuming the array can be installed?
scott s.

sorry for not getting back sooner, but thanks for input. That makes me feel a litlle better, but with all the RAIdDproblems I see on the boards, it makes me wonder if RAID is worth the hassle.
scott s.

SATA RAID conflics with POMISE T3 RAID Bios

I've read quite a few of the RAID setup issues concerning the "Extra" RAID settings under "integrated peripherals" for the K9A2 Platinum. My problem seems to be a bit unique. I can't get both the SATA RAID and the Promise "Fast Track" to work together. If I enable the Extra RAID Controllers the Fastrack Bios does not recognize my SATA RAID.
This simply means that for some reason the motherboard SATA RAID conflicts or disables the PROMISE RAID Bios and vice versa. So I have not been able to activate my eSATA ports or use anything connected to the SATA5-6 ports without going into the CMOS and setting SATA DEVICES to IDE and then turning on the EXTRA Raid Controller under "Integrated Peripherals" in the CMOS. Unless I'm wrong. I am almost sure that this scenario is right.
The second issue is that I cannot get my ram to go in DUAL CHANNEL mode. But I will post that issue another time.
thx
Please Advise.
Ami Bios v1.4
K9A2 Platinum MB, 790FX,
AMD 9850 Black Edition,
8GB GSkill RAM (800Mhz),
Samsung 500GB SATA11 (x4),
Radeon HD 3870 512 MB Video,
Rosewill 950Watt PSU,
Pioneer DVD RW,
NEC DVD RW,
9-in-1 USB Card Reader
2 ext (USB/eSATA) hard Drives (eSATA will not work because these ports are controlled by the PROMISE T3 Bios)

With Vista Ultimate SP1 on my machine the USB Flasher Tool kept on crashing when the BIOS was at v 1.2 on the KA92 mainboard.
The DOS window came up fine but it appeared that every susequent module that was brought up for detecting the motherboard caught some kind of conlfict and terminated causing Vista to summon the program terminated message box. Eventually the dos prompt would state that it could not detect the motherboard and close. All in red text. This happened only when I flashed the BIOS with v1.2. I wanted to go back to 1.3 just to verify that the BIOS version was the cause and the only reason I got back to 1.3 or 1.4 easily was becaus it was backed up by the tool so all I had to do was rename the backup.bin file(s). Again everything went as expected with the USB Flasher Tool until I loaded the v1.2 BIOS. It could not even detect the mainboard.
The only reason I didn't need the tool anymore was that it backed up the versions of the bios for each time that I had flashed the bios previously.
Ami Bios v1.2
K9A2 Platinum MB, 790FX,
AMD 9850 Black Edition,
8GB GSkill RAM (800Mhz),
Samsung 500GB SATA2 (x4),
Radeon HD 3870 512 MB Video,
Rosewill 950Watt PSU,
Pioneer DVD RW,
NEC DVD RW,
9-in-1 USB Card Reader

First time install probs with sata raid drive using k7n2g ilsr

hi all!!!
this is the first time i have tried 2 use a sata raid hdd. i dont use a raid drive for my c:, the raid drive is just extra space.
first i formated my pc. i installed the raid drivers, then xp. my pc worked fine. but then after a week it was time 2 try plug the drive in.
when i got my k7n2g ilsr motherboard i di not get a manual. so with the raid drivers installed, i just pluged in the raid drive. the drive seemed fine.... i formatted it and put a couple of games on. but after an hours usage the games would crash (high pitched tone instead of the audio, then full freeze).
i have tried putting these games back on my original drive and they work fine......
anyway....
i wanted 2 know if anyone had any ides what i was doing worng??? are there any settings in the bios that need changing when installing a raid drive????
thanks for any help!!!!!!!

ok still formatting drive..... looking over the files on the msi site for my motherboard it has 2 files available for raid drives:
the 'Promise Serial-ATA RAID Drivers' ( which i have installed)
and the 'Promise Serial-ATA RAID Utility' (which i dont hav installed)
do i need the Promise Serial-ATA RAID utility?? and if so how do i install it?? there are no setup files just dll files like the driver.... is istallation the same as the driver?
again, i thank u for your help!!!!!

SATA RAID and K92A Platinum

OK Guy’s
I need your assistance here. I just purchased a MSI K92A Platinum motherboard and having the darnest time setting up RAID 0 (or any RAID period). Before I go any further this is my setup.
SATA 1 Western Digital WD2500JS 250GB SATA
SATA 2 Western Digital WD2500JS 250GB SATA
SATA 3 LITE-ON 20X DVD SATA MODEL LH-20A1S
SATA 4 Western Digital WD2500JS 250GB SATA
SATA 5
SATA 6
Floppy drive installed
Memory: Kingston Hyper 2GB 1066 (x2)
Processor: AMD 6400+ (3.2)
Video: Ge Force 8800 GTX
In the basic (CMOS) screen I see all my drives. When I move to the advance screen and select RAID. All the drives including my DVD disappear from the basic (CMOS) screen. In the RAID utility, I see all three hard drives (minus the DVD drive). I created my RAID 0 with two of the drives and left the last drive free for future use. The problem arises when I reboot and try to use my DVD drive with Windows VISTA. After the initial boot from the Windows CD, I followed the on screen instruction by selecting the install tab. It would prompt me for my license number and move to the next screen. After that it would return with the error unable to find DVD/CDROM (no further installation possible). Just remember it had booted off the CD in the first place. Not sure what is the problem. Unfortunately I can’t install WINDOWS on a RAID drive until I figure out why when I select RAID that my DVD is not seen correctly after booting .
All things being equal, I have no problem installing WINDOWS without defining a RAID device on this motherboard. All the drives are seen including my DVD. A little history I just came from using an ASUS MSN-SLI Deluxe motherboard and I did not have any of these problems. At this point is seems ASUS had the easiest RAID utility. Final note, hardware is good and tested. Any response would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Richard

No, you can use as many as you would like. It's just that RAID 0 with three drives is not possible on the Promise controller (red ports), as it has only two ports. Therefore you will need to use the SB600 controller, which is somewhat picky about SATA RAID drivers...
Anyway, the Promise controller is already disabled. Set your SB600 controller to RAID in your BIOS, then enter the FastBuild utility using CTRL + F when prompted. Build the array to your likings and save the settings, then boot from your Vista DVD. If you're lucky the drivers from the MSI CD (for Vista) will work. Otherwise you will have to start trying SB600 SATA RAID drivers from other manufacturers, those from DFI are known to work quite well.

P965 Platinum SATA RAID drivers to slipstream

Hey guys,
Once in a while I slipstream SATA and SATA RAID drivers into my WinXP Pro setup cd, so I will not need a floppy on any system. My setup cd now contains drivers for VIA VT8237, nForce3, Promise 20378 and Promise 20579 controllers. I would like to add Intel ICH8R drivers...
I know how to do it, that's not the issue. But on MSI's download section for my P965 Platinum I can find two drivers:
Which one is to be used to setup RAID arrays on the ICH8R? Both contain contents for a floppy, both folders and files look the same. It's just that they differ in size, so I'm not sure which one I need. Do I need to slipstream both drivers to setup a RAID 0, 1 or 5 array?
Thnx in advance...

Quote from: Quadrifoglio Verde on 03-March-07, 23:47:11
Alright, thanks. Why the first one and not the second one? Is there a difference between the two? I can not slipstream both, as they are both named "iastor.sys"...
"I can not slipstream both, as they are both named "iastor.sys"..."
you no need to put them both, only one of them.
they are the same version, all files match except iastor.sys size (in same time both iastor.sys are "same version" too.. 6.0.0.1022)
"Why the first one and not the second one?"
just guess, because MSI put them as ICH8R SATA RAID Driver as primary. if you have any problems you can try drivers from second achieve.

Bios and SATA Raid setup nightmares

Three manuals with this mobo and I just can't get it set up.
I have the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R, an Intel 3.0GHZ Northwood processor, a pair of 256 memory chips configured as dual channel. A pair of SATA drives are on the Intel ports. The IDE has four devices connected, a HDD, Zip drive, and a pair of CDs. All of the hardware, jumpers, cables seem to be working fine.
My goal was to have a SATA Raid 0 setup, with the spare drive for backup and misc storage. CD's and Zip for input, burning, etc.
After everything was connected I booted Win XP Pro from the CD, did the F6 thing and installed the drivers for both Intel and Promise (Fastrack and drivers). Setting up the bios "Integrated Peripherals" was a real problem and the book very little help, but I finally got the system to recognize things so I could format and boot and install the OS. I did the Control-I thing and configured the Raid drives (at least I think). So far, so good.
After the OS was installed, SP1 added, etc. I got ready to configure the Raid. The CD does not come up with the screen shown in the manual. But I did find the Intel IAA RAID Edition in a folder. Running it results in an error message saying that the software does not support this chipset. Downloading similar drivers for both Promise and Intel always dead-ends the same way.
What I'm leaving out are the--literally--hours of time I've spent trying to get the devices configured right in the Bios' "Integrated Peripherals." I have no idea what I'm doing and the book is no help. But the devices are all there now and the OS runs fine (but not as a Raid 0 set up).
The book says I can migrate this configuration to a Raid volume. How, when I get that error message?
And another thing. Can I use the Promise IDE (PATA) port for a single drive? It's the only place on the mobo where ATA 133 is supported.
I think I'm in a world of trouble here. Don't know squat about these complex bios setups. Sorry this is so long.
ardi

OK, I actually went down to the basement and dug out the ICH5R Raid Manual. Basically it says in order to take advantage of the ability to migrate later on, you have to set Raid in Bios B4 loading Windows and install Raid driver with Windows setup. If you've already got Windows installed on 1 disk and had Bios set to"SATA as Raid- NO", you're out of luck.
Here's the exerpt from the manual:
Quote
The Intel Application Accelerator RAID Edition offers the flexibility to
upgrade from a single Serial ATA (SATA) hard drive to a two drive RAID 0
configuration when an additional SATA hard drive is added to the system.
This process will create a new RAID volume from an existing disk. However,
several important steps must be followed at the time the system is first
configured in order to take advantage of RAID when upgrading to a second
SATA hard drive:
1. BIOS must be configured for RAID before installing Windows* XP
on the single SATA hard drive.
2. Install the Intel Application Accelerator RAID driver during Windows
Setup.
3. Install the Intel Application Accelerator RAID Edition after the
operating system is installed.
Maybe someone knows a work-around?

K8N Neo Platinum nf3 250Gb SATA RAID question?

Hi all I'm ready to make the move to an AMD A64 setup from my currnet P4.
You all know what a tough job it is to find the right motherboard for an A64
After much research I think the K8N Neo Platinum is the board for me, but there's one question I can't find an answer too. So I'm turning to this forum. Thanks much for any help.
I currently run a dual RAID"0" setup. Two WD360 Raptors as boot array off the Si3114 on-board controller and two WD740 Raptors as a game \ power apps storage array off the ICH5R southbridge.
My question is; Is it possible to run this drive setup off the K8N Neo Platinum's 4 SATA controllers? Two seperate RAID"0" arrays with one bootable.
thank you-Mike

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I ordered a K8T NEO2-FIR...Its got the on-board Promise SATA RAID controller + on chip VIA RAID...so it should suit my drive needs perfectly

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