Proposed new build K7N2-Delta L

Hello,
I am looking at a new build using a K7N2-Delta L MB. The proposed parts are:
PSU: Antec True 550
Video: PNY NVIDIA GeForce FX5700LE (128MB)
CPU: Athlon xp 3000 (333 Mhz FSB)
DVD Writer, Tape Drive(Certance Travan 40, IDE), etc.
OS: Win XP Pro SP2
Memory: Mushkin
On the memory, I am looking at either Mushkin
512 MB PC2700 DDR 222 Level II Black x 2 (1 GB)
or
512 MB PC3200 DDR 222 Black Hi Perf LII V2-New Release x 2 (1 GB)
(for possible upgrade later to XP3000 or XP 3200 400 MHz CPU)
I have several questions concerning memory.
1. Would it be better to go for the PC3200 memory even if the CPU isn't upgraded?
I believe the DDR 400 memory will run at DDR 333 speed. Am I Correct?
2. If I were later to add an additional 512 MB to the system (1.5 GB) would I lose the dual channel mode?
3. Has anyone had any experience with using the PC3200 DDR 222 Level II V2-new release Memory sticks?
I do not intend to overclock the proposed system.
It will be used for general computing use and some light printed circuit board layout work and Ham radio digital transmitting and receiving software.
I have talked with the Mushkin sales people and they are saying either memory listed above will work great at 2-2-2-11 settings.
What do the VERY knowledgeable folks on this forum think? I have read the entire forum and would like some input. Sorry this is such a long post.
Thanks,
Mark5

Hello,
Here is a review of the ram, DDR 222 one,
They use a DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B motherboard.
That features the nvidia nForce 2 chipset and soundstorm.
http://www.hi-techreviews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1256
You may find the link useful

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[Help]K7N2 Delta-L

I have a real problem and dunno what wrong or how to fix....
I just bought an MSI Motherboard for AMD Processors Model K7N2 Delta-L Retail
Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ with 266FSB
DDR PC2100 512MB
350Watts power supply
PNY 5200 Ultra FX video card 128MB
Soudblaster Audigy 2
Problem come, when turn on the power, it on for few second then it off.... and can't turn it on again, unless I switch it off and on with power supply. All items are brand new. Bought from retail store.
Someone please help.... wat did I do wrong.... thnx ..... first time build a pc....

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Originally posted by [T-A]_Super_10
Set your jumpers to safe mode and clear cmos and try to boot. When you switch PSU off and back on can you boot to OS? To bios? or just all the fans spin lights come on but nothing? What does the D-Led say?
well, I did as u instruct... but still ..... power on, just couple sec, then it automatic off... so quickly I don't even know wat D-Led is... however, when I take out the cpu and power it on... it's staying there. however I can't turn it on switch unless I switch off the PSU.... GZZZZZZZZ I'm going crazy.... I did using MSI KT4 Ultra-SR and it has the same problem so, i thought my MOBO damage, then I order new MSI K7N2 Delta-L and now, still same problem. I did exchange twice of CPU b/c i thought it damage too, but it not CPU.....
I recheck and recheck the installation, nothing change.... Man, I never thought it so hard like it now.... Someone help please....

Data corruption on MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR

Hi all,
Just got my new MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR up and running.
Got some issues with the memory running at 200mhz while the Barton core of my Athlon Xp 2600+ was running 166mhz, this had to be 1:1 (thx forum )
While running the default bios settings with cpu/mem at 166/166 fsb everything is stable as hell. I have been running Prime95 for 2 days now and using the system for dvd ripping/encoding, UT2004 gaming etc.
Then the overclocking began I'm using the standard AMD cooler that came with my boxed Xp2600+ so I didn't expect an FSB of 200mhz.
I stopped at an FSB of 190mhz...been crunching Prime95 for 18 hours now and again very stable.
Now comes the problem : Sometimes I get crc errors when installing a game or decrypting a dvd!! But how can this be? Prime95 is stable at this 190fsb overclock.
When using an FSB of 166mhz no data corruption or crc errors.
What can this be? It's not the cables because they're all the same as in my old setup which was running (ahum...walking) stable. PCI/AGP speeds are locked when overclocking...
Only thing I can think of is the power supply. I've read in a warning post from Bas that the Q-Tec 550w psu I have is crap. So my guess is PSU, but maybe it's something else I'm forgetting...Any suggestions??
The stupid thing is when I'm not overclocking I don't have the data corruption problems, but I'm still using the same crappy Q-Tec 550w PSU.
Help!
gr,
Remco

Hmmm, that's curious. On the MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR product page Kingston memory is recommended
Ok, did a Memtest86 v1.11 pass at cpu/dimm 166/166 - no problems whatsoever. I think using Prime95 would have revealed memory problems...but will do another pass with cpu/dimm at 190/190.
Can overclocking affect the Promise Raid Controller?? It should be locked like the PCI/AGP but who knows...
Well, I still have to replace my PSU but I'm not 100% sure that this is the problem. What PSU would you recommend? ...and I'm also thinking about replacing the standard CPU cooler, any advice is welcome
gr,
Remco

2d games are jerky (K7N2 Delta-L)

Hello!
Is anyone else having this same problem: I recently bought this new MSI K7N2 Delta-L motherboard and my 2d games started to jerk?
I can't anymore play my favourite game Worms World Party on this machine because It's unplayable jerky.
I updated my motherboard from ECS K7S5A but it seemed to be a bad choice. Before the Upgrade my Worms used to run smooth like a dream.
I have all the latest drivers and bios updates.
I have tried many different display adapters (NVidia/ATI) but nothing seems to help. Always the same thing.
I can't believe my machine runs worms nowadays slower than 233MHz AMD K-6 machine with unbelievable slow graphics card.
At least 3d games run fine, even though I don't like 'em.
I wonder if anyone has a solution for this annoying problem?
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1024MB 366MHz DDR (dual channel)
Ati Radeon 9100 128MB
Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
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-- Force Keeper (Never again NVidia chipsets)

Raven_
Yea I emailed your last fix notice to Glennvidia today...sorry I'm not able to keep up with it lately...business is good and it's growing again...
Forcekeeper
My ram is 2 x 512MB Kingston KVR333X64C25/512
( I said my memory speed incorrectly earlier )
Kingston is risky at best with these motherboards...it works for some but not for most ppl...
My PSU is Q Technology 300W
3.3V = 28A
5V = 30A
12V = 15A
This motherboard is power hungry and a QTec PSU isn't going to hack it...you need to upgrade it badly...
I didn't install the windows drivers before I installed the ATI drivers. And I have System Restore turned Off.
BTW my ATi card is built by Sapphire. I have also tested ATI All in Wonder (Built by ATI) - same thing.
Sapphire cards caused issues early on with these motherboards...I don't recall MSI ever releasing a fix for their bootup initiation issue...I'm not thinking that this is the worst of your problems tho...memory and PSU are your worst issues atm...
My Windows XP has Service Pack 2, v.2149 (Also tested with Service Pack 1)
This won't matter at all...SP1 or 2 shouldn't have any bearing on your problems...unless of course they didn't start until you installed SP2...which is still in beta form just so you know...
I will test without sound card now. And then maybe reinstall all the drivers.
I don't think the Creative card is your problem as yet either altho I could be wrong...I would leave it out of the fray until you solve the other issues...
All in all you need a new supply first before you can go forward...then if you still have issues I would chase the memory...then I'd worry about the maker of video card, sound card then SP2 in that order...
Good luck!!

Fsb overclocking...what does it actually change? (K7N2 delta-L)

Hi all,
I got my new mobo K7N2 delta-L, and I've heard some talk that it should be safe to OC fsb with this mobo as it wouldn't change any other speeds than only the speed of cpu.
So I'd like to hear how it really is, if I change the fsb does it have any impact on pci or most importantly ide devices? In bios I can set the speed of AGP and memory manually so I guess the fsb doesn't affect to them. But does it then if I don't set memory manually and set it to AUTO or SPD? Most importantly I'm asking what about the IDE, now as I understand pci speed is the same as IDE speed, and there is option in bios "AUTO detect pci clock", if I set that to enabled, does that mean that my hard drive and cd-rom speed always stays the same (33mhz) nomatter what I change my fsb? Please someone give me detailed information on how changing the fsb on K7N2 delta-L works and everything that it affects, or does it really only affect on cpu speed as I've heard. Thank you very much already!

Just from my experience upping the fsb also ups your PCI
cards, AGP video,CPU and last but not least memory.
I think the most gain is in memory benches. The CPU doesn't jump much but the memory is very noticable.
Upping too far can and will lead to a non posting computer,
the tough part after hours of experimenting is to try and play your games without addition problems.
I was O/C'd very well but had to quiet it all down to play Grand theft auto Vice city.
Had trouble with the O/C on that one alone, all else was fine with 446fsb 223x10.5 but had to wave it all good bye for the sake of the game.I like the game so near stock is what I'm running now.
I did however just upped my video card to a Radeon Pro 9800 and wait for it and hope I can reclaim some O/C but heck with that card I may not need it.

WIN 2000 "No Bootable Drive Error" on new K7N2 Delta

Installed new MSI K7N2 MB and AMD Athlon XP 2500+ chip on Saturday and get to WIN 2000 boot and then blue screen error "can not find bootable drive?".
My friend tried booting from his and my WIN 2000 CD to no avail. Both drives show up on startup. Checked cables and tried swopping to no avail.
Any help would be apprreciated. I have tried the stickies to no avail.
Set up:
Maxtor 20 g master (OS System installed)
Maxtor 80 g slave for video editing
HP CD RW
NEC DVD RW
AGP display Video Card
IEEE firewire PCI
FDD
AMD Athlon 2500+ XP (333 FSB)
MSI K7N2 Delta MB
Antec 300 w mini-tower case ( bought off shelf at store) (do not have the specs on AMPS as I am at work)
Could it be the PSU?
I know Wonk or someone can offer me their guidance please. The Mrs. is PO'd.

I got that same error today, when I was trying to add a new boot drive with fresh W2K. I'm going to rant for a while, but you can skip it if you're not using an external drive and you've tested your internal drive ATA (round or ribbon) cables. (note that they can be v-e-r-y bad even if they look OK). I'll explain how these things relate to "No boot drive", but you'll have to bear with me, I'm still venting and trying to get over how stinking aggravating, time-consuming, AND expensive these components can be and still the manufacturers won't take responsibility for problems. Sony orphaned this one while it was still on the shelves at office supply stores.
Anyway, I'm such a fool --I know real well that my SONY CRX2100U USB external CDRW is a pig, but I always forget about that because it works pretty well with my MSI board and W2K *once everything is installed*. But it dies suddenly if I run the W2K setup from it (seems liek the USB20 driver gets stepped on or something. With other machines, like a Toshiba laptop, I have to disconnect it to boot at all. It gets in the way of the boot, somehow. it seems to have some issues with USB 2.0 compliance. So if you're working off an external hard drive, you might want to consider that it can be less than well-behaved at boot time.
What's this got to do with "no bootable drive"? I don't know, really. JUst that Win2K setup blows its brains out and suddenly stops knowing about the USB 2.0 drive, and a Toshiba laptop can't boot with a Sony USB 2.0 drive connected to it.
One other problem it might be: The ATA cable MSI puts in the motherboard boxes is either a good one or a really awful one. The awful ones are truly awful--I suspect that they attract and amplify electromagnetic radiation from sun spots or something...something makes the system go NUTS reporting disk errors and such. My K7N2 Delta ILSR came with the red plastic round cable, it is good as gold. My K7N2 Delta-L came with a wire-mesh wrapped 80-conductor cable, and I never saw anything more evil than it was, when brand new on a new system. It *looked* fine, good as new, but acted like it was shorting out the drives. Fuh, as much as I like to get free cables, I'll never use that one again. I dug up a twisted old ATA 80 c0nductor (blue-terminated) cable out of an old box and put it in, in place of the wire-mesh round cable, and the system came back to life immediately.
You pro'lly otter get a known good-quality 80 conductor cable for the internal drives.
So hope this helps.

[nForce] K7N2 Delta ILSR? is my computer specs outta date as today? or should I build a..

IS MY COMPUTER OUT OF DATE?(MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR) (hint: look at my signature), and if it is can someone make me a good list of things to get to make a new GOOD custom computer? motherboard etc,,, for a gaming pc under 500 US dollars?

Outdated for what? What pushes you for an update? Your system will work fine for most things for a couple of years still. I'd remove that extra 128 MB stick though.
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Recently i had a motherboard that decided to stop reading the entire eide port 1. SO with the help of a friend i got a K7N2 Delta-ILSR. WHen i got it i had to reinstall 2000. When i did so i noticed a serious decrease in speed of the hard drive. it took hours to format a 20 gig partition. When i finally got 2000 installed i noticed a slow choppyness about the computer. I had never seen this before. after a while of getting very agrivated at the machine i thought looke dthought the book again thingking that i might have did something wrong. this was not the case. I recently returned from a 4 day trip to vegas and when i turned my computer on it read my entire harddrive as damaged or unformatted. i want to believe that it is just the harddrive but it is a newer harddrive and i just had motherboard problems.
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gforce 3
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im on vacation again so when i get back ill try to replace the harddrive with one that i know works then ill see what the problem is....
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Band new computer with k7n2 delta will not boot or moniter not working

this is my first complete system build so please bare with me. the system uses a enlight 420 watt power supply in a lan boy case. it has a K7N2 Delta mother board with a 2500 barton amd cpu. the drives include 2 cd drives 1 floppy and one 120g hd, pny 5600 ultra video card 1 g kingston value ram ddr dual channel. when i turn on the power all the fan turn on the led in the front of the case light up but i get no boot or or video card not sure which yet. i get #1 led is red #2 led is red #3 led is green #4 led is green. i has tried to unplug drives with no change. tried a cmos reset with no change. tried a old voodoo video card with no change. tried to set the fsb to 100mhz with no change.
any other idea or suggestions would be helpfull.
justin
just tried used one stick of ram at a time with no change. the p.s. is +5v 40a, 3.3v 30a, +12v 18a, -5v .3a, -12v .8a, +5vsb 2a.

GOT IT TO POST LAST NIGHT. I HATE TO SAY WHAT I FOUND I FEEL A BIT LIKE AN IDIOT. WHAT I FOUND WAS THAT THE RESET BUTTON IS POLORIZED AND I HAD IT ON BACK WORDS. I TOOK ME WALKING AWAY FROM IT FOR A DAY TO COME UP WITH THE IDEA.
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JUSTIN

New bioses for K7N2, Delta & K7N2G released-Updated

MSI has posted new bioses for the K7N2, Delta and K7N2G series mainly adding Sempron support for these boards as follows:-
K7N2G-ILSR bios version 2.0
K7N2 Delta-ILSR & L bios versions 7.8 & 5.8
K7N2 & K7N2G-L bios version 4.1
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Originally posted by Raven
a athlon xp is rated up to 85 celsis and if its from April 2004 it should be quite correct.
carefully touch the heatsink to check if its warm or not
also what is your other temps ?
what program do you use to check temp ?
pc alert4 is known to show wrong from time to time.
i use speedfan and it works god form e.
http://www.almico.com
but the higher the temp the sooner it will fail.
55-60 is what most people recommend as maximum temp under load.
I know its rated up to 85C but won't it start being unstable around 75C?
I use SpeedFan, MBM5 to check temps. Not sure about the case temp but the socket temp is like 28-35C I believe.

My new K7N2-Delta need some help here!

Recently i bought a brand new k7n2 delta L and i need some advice on how to overclock with this new mobo, with the km2m it was piece of cake but this is a little bit more complete. I will appreciate the help and tips in this matter more over because my first attempt resulted on a non responsive system :P no post to be more clear.
Thanks in advance.
By the way my cpu is an athlon xp 2000+ tbred (i don't know if it is unlocked)

read all this first
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=40413&sid=
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=32088&sid=
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=38822&sid=

Brand new K7N2 Delta

Just bought K7N2 Delta and built my system in the normal way with an Athlon 2000 and 512mb of infinion 3200 ram but the d-bracket shows two red and two green which the book says is the Athlon not working but i know it works coz its just come out of my other machine . Can anyone help please? X(

Hi,
This could be one of many problems.
The first to questions you're gonna get asked here are:
1 Is your memory Nforce2 approved? - MSI boards are a little picky about certain makes of RAM - If it isn't it may not work - see sticky at top of forum OR go here:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/nForceMemoryCompatability/lstnForceMemoryCompatibility.asp
2. Is your PSU up to the task of powering your board?
The general consensus of opinion regarding the powering of MSI nForce2 boards -
Does your PSU conform to the following:
+3.3V - 28A+
+5V - 35A+
+12V - 16A+
Compare the above with your PSU's label.
Many people get boot errors (of varying kinds) when the Mobo's underpowered.
Have you tried resetting the CMOS (BIOS) instructions in your manual. Also set all BIOS settings to default (if you haven't already done so.)
Axel :D

New Modded BIOS for K7N2 Delta ILSR

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Modded BIOS based on Official v. 7.80 BIOS
download here:

Description: Access through interface which is on insecure interfaces list detected. Request aborted.
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Doesn't work for me
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I installed the board, installed windows XP, everythign was working great til I upgraded the Bios.
Now the system does this
Sometimes It will boot and say the HD is m issing files
Sometimes it will boot and I go to the Bios and it will hang when the main menu comes up.
Sometimes it will let me go into a sub menu int he bios and it will hang there.
Sometimes when I hit Delete to go to the bios the screen willl go all black.
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Hi there !
I have an amd Athlon XP 3200+ overheating problem, and contacted the technical support of the shop where the processor and CPU was coming from.
Since they do not have any XP 3200+ to replace mine, they propose me to replace fro free :
- the XP 3200+ by an AMD Athlon 64 3200+
- my actual MSI K7N2 delta ILSR by an MSI K8T Neo2 F
... and this for free.
Since I do not know this new motherboard that has been proposed, I'd like to have advice on if this is a good deal ?!?
My actual system has :
- an Aluminium case with 2x 12cm FAN's
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- an AGP 8x video card
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will the new motherboard fit with this configuration?
Many thanks for your input !

Not really, unless you really want to oc your cpu. The K8T boards aren't that good in OC-ing. But still, some is possible and you'll be sure that the board is as steady as a rock.
For a moment I thought you were talking about a Neo board ... but I just saw it's a Neo2. That means Socket 939 -> dual channel RAM.
The only risk you have now, is that your RAM won't work in dual channel with the CPU. But that's not really a board-problem, more a CPU/RAM-controller related problem. But then, it's still a great offer and chances are good that it will work. If you run into any trouble, RAM-related, just flash bios to version 1.9 and you will probably be just fine.

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