Prority applying filters in Develope module

Question

LR is one of the best tools for those who wnat quick ranking, metadata editing for copyright, sorting and processing LARGE quantities of files...
Among those photographers wedding, event and sport shooters are those who really need to fastly sort thigns outm they are most interested in using LR.
also, the same photographers work in the most critical lightning environments, very often we shoot in very bad lightning at very high ISO settings.
for us noise is a real pain.
as we all know, advanced processing of a very noisy raw material exponentially increase noise levels in the final product.
for this reason, inside PS, our workflow include NR filters among the first operations we do...
this way, working on a cleaner background, the noise is kept under a relative control.
often, at the end of our workflow we again trim the nise as a final touch...
back to lightroom, few questons and requests are born from this imediate reality we confront each day:
1. LR offers NO control regarding order develope adjustments are applied... this is sometimes good, other times a real pain...
2. there is no information regarding WHICH is the order those filtes are applied when developing RAW files... NONE.
we could guess the order they appear in XML files and inside develope module is the order they are considered when RAW information is processed?
that mean noise is indeed among the last filters applied, correct me if i am wrong.
3. how we could maximize our results? just make minimum adjustments in LR, go to PS, where we can control the order of applying filters, process and export from there???
not exactly compatible with our need for speed and easy processing large quantities of files that make us choose LR, isn't it?
not to mention RAW data offers much more "hidden" info we can bring to life thru processing compared to exported PS files, even 16 bit tiffs are not as "good" on this regard...this is the reason we shoot raw, to benefit from this better latitude of information raw's offers ....
4. now the requests themselves:
a} please allow us to choosethe order of applying these filters...maybe not all, not all are that critical, but things like NR we should be able to put among the first filters applied.
if Adobe already thought about this and NR is among the first on that list, please let us know. we NEED to know , we need that info, we need control.
b} please allow us to double the filter alteration.
as i said, we often apply a NR fiter at the beggining of the workflow and then again, another NR with softer settings at the end of the workflow, sometimes just before the final sharpening.
such flexibility and customization availability would really help us, especially those who really need lightroom and do not have the time to bring every picture in PS and tweak it...
imagine shooting 1000 pictures in one session with a delivery deadline of 24 hours...LR is great help, have a lot of great features and we really apreciate the wayit works, even this elastic way of applying filters inside develope module...
BUT it would be a much better tool with more flexibility available.
Thanks Adobe, i also compelted an official request form regarding this subject.
maybe someone who really knows how things work inside developing engine could bring some light in this regard, how things really work right now,even this info could be very helpfull.
regards ,Liviu

Answer 1

first i need to KNOW officially how thigns work, if ucan offer me a proof i'd gladly accept that.
second, as i said, adobe might have think about that, is a request area and i have theright to request what I think is usefull to me.
i ask for more CONTROL, what is wrong about that?
i also request for 2 alteration using the same filter, NR in this case, once at the beggining and one at the eng of the developing process, i am also entitled to ask for such a thing, right?
qith all due respect, if u do not have similar needs please allow me to ask , understand and not suppose adobe thought of everything and there is no better way, ok?
here is a quote from a XMP file, i PRESUME the order if operation inside that file is the one processes are piped, am i wrong again?
5.3
   As Shot
   4900
   -2
   -0.57
   15
   +79
   -7
   +33
   25
   39
   18
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   17
   -21
   29
   +10
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   +60
   0
   -24
   0
   +19
   0
   -24
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   0
   25
   50
   75
+1.0
   25
0
   0
   False
   Medium Contrast
     0, 0
     32, 22
     64, 56
     128, 128
     192, 196
     255, 255
   ACR 3.3
   8E1722706FEF96E97D62F657E50DF272
   True
   False
so ,as u see i spaced the noise reduction fucntions in order to make them more visible, i can;t use colors to underline what i consider important, ok?
SO, as u can see here, WB, exposure, contrast, SHARPNESS, brightness, SHADDOWS are ALL listed BEFORE noise reduction...
later on the end of the list there is ANOTHER sharpening listed, so double fiter IS ALREADY applied, thus possible, right???
again, ALL fiters applied BEFORE NR influences noise levels, all increse noise, more or less....
WB influences exposure, try to go 50000 and see where hystogram goes to the right...
exposure also increase noise in shaddow areas.
contrast increse noise.
brightness also influence noise.
Shaddows are working exactly on most noisiest levels, the shades...
sharpness before NR??? indeed, is "well thought"...
so, Lee jay, seems i am not that wrong after all, isn't it???
i really hope that order inside XMP to mean nothing but i really doubt is meaningless ...
and again, even if a were wrong, i am entitled to ask explanations as i pay for this product. I also am entitled to ask for what i consider improvements, if Adobe decide to implement or not is another discussion...
a little "friendlier" tone in your replies would also be apreciated, thank you in advance. i hope u do not work for Adobe ;)
so, i am waiting for documented proofs related to my questions, thank you Adobe.