Ps CC: Quick Mask is unresponsive after using Refine Edge?

Anyone know why Quick Mask is unresponsive after I've used "Refine Edge"
It works fine if I just make a simple selection first.

It's not my intention (intent?) to beat up on the "Refine Edge". I figured when I couldn't get the same pristine results as all the demos that I was doing something wrong, and kept watching more people doing this 'cause I figured I was doing something dumb...
Mostly, I've been trying this on different images over the last couple weeks just to see if I could figure out how to get it to work.
From the responses in here I suspect I'm doing it correctly, but the images I'm trying it on just don't lend themselves to perfect edges without some additional work..... The Quick Select and a bit of edge cleanup is still faster than the "good old days", so its definitely a step forward.
As far as the swans, yes, no matter what I did, I was getting a lot of extraneous selections and wonky edges and stuff. One of these days I'll try pulling an eagle or a great egret out of a clear sky and see how that goes. I suspect it'll work a lot better...
I only fiddled with the rodeo image 'cause I figured it was "like" hair. But my background is pretty busy. With a little additional work I DID get a very, very good selection, and was able to soften the background, and do a gradient so the ground under the horse is sharp, gradually blurring as it moves to the grandstands...
Thanks for all the replies...

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no it does not change it. But I found out what causes that bug. It's not a displaying issue. Photoshop does something it did not do earlier, this is:
My quick mask color is the same as the layer mask color.
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When pressing q (to switch to quick mask mode) photoshop will not only display the quick mask, but also the layer mask in their respective colors.
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thewhiterat wrote:
Yes, there was black, but I still am not getting the red when I put it into quick mask mode and start using the brush.
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When using the refine edge tool, my image is opposite....rather than the background being transparent...the "subject" is gone...do I have a something set incorrectly?

I used the quick selection tool to outline, then refine edge....
my image does not shoe up in the refine edge window....it is a "mask"..
then when I output to "new layer with layer mask"....my "subject" t is gone...back ground remains...

Thanks for your prompt reply!
this is how the "finished" product looks...this is the image after I select "output to mask"..
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Chris,
My memory is a little fuzzy right now as to exactly what was causing the
problem. Anyway I don't encounter it much anymore.
If I remember correctly I had the mask attached to curves adjustment
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