PS CS5 Raw Editor

I have just upgraded from CS3 to CS5.
Where is the "Select All" panel on the left hand side of the editor and I cannot load multiple images into the editor either, only one at a time.
Regards,
Doug.

If you mean the "Film Strip" mode, you have to have opened multiple images into Camera Raw. If you do have multiple images open and you don't see the side thumbnails, then the panel has collapsed, grab the far left edge and expand the panel.

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Subject: Re: PSE8 Crash open as Raw a .jpg image in Editor to get Raw Editor
Same behaviour here (WinXP Pro SP3, PSE upgrade path was 3-4-5-6-7-8).
I also see 2 times Camera Raw in about plug-ins as well as in the Open as list. Chosing the first one in results in error message "The operation could not be completed, Class alread exists", using the second one in Open as results in error message (my translation from German to English) "This process could not be executed, because there was a program error" (As a software developer, I love this message ).
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