Ps CS6 Problem: Transform applied to Smart Object fails to transform an attached Smart Filters Mask

Ps CS6
OSX 10.6.8
Problem: Transform applied to Smart Object fails to transform an attached Smart Filters Mask.
I mean a Transform, including Free Transform, as found in the Edit menu. A simple move by the Move Tool is OK.
A workaround until this bug is squashed is to encapsulate the Smart Object + Smart Filters + Filter Mask inside another Smart Object and transform that.
However, that will not be a satisfactory solution in some cases. If a filter has size parameter(s), e.g. Gaussian Blur radius, a scaling or warping/distorting transform applied after the filter will obviously differ from the filter applied after the transform.
In any case, the workaround is inconvenient to subsequent editing and experimenting with filters and masks.

R_Kelly wrote:
I don't think that's a bug since the implementation seems to be purposely done.
It's been that way since photoshop cs3.
If its been like that since CS3 then I think it's a bug which remains because nobody (or not enough people) has complained before.

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One workaround would be to right click on the vector smart object layer in the layers panel and
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back in illustrator from photoshop.

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Image 6 is the second Free Transform.
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Neil's the moderator and here you are wide-eyed (wha??). If you didn't know that how can you comment on the culture here. The culture I see is people coming here with their problems and then copping an attitude. Always the same. And "the usual suspects" always rise to the same bait. But plonk them all you want. Many here have tried and failed to clean up things. I have found the "attitude" here quite justified much of the time.
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OS X 10.6.8
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When ever I have a problem in CS6 and I have many I always test priot releases like cs2 cs3 cs5. I nevet nitice before you posted this problem the Photoshop has different favlors of Free Transform and that free transform for CS6 has been modified. Adobe seems to be introducind new improvement matche with new bugs,
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Transform 9 anchor point icons X: field Relative icon Y: filed W: % Constrain icon H: % Angle ° Check Box Anti Alias (grayed out)
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Message was edited by: JJMack
I have now tested the Scriptlistner Plugin it does record the interpolation for transform normal layers. Still the layer resize method in the Photoshop Javascript user guide has not been change for that support. In the past what I have done is scripting was to save the users default interpolation Photoshop prenerenvr changed the preference to what I wanted to use do the layer transform resize then restored the users interpolation preferance. Adobe broke that in CS6 if the users defalt preference is what Adobe's defalt is "Bicubic Automatic" an internal Photoshop error occurs. Adobe did not add "Bicubic Autoimatic" to scripting when I try to save the preference scriping has the internal error. There is also no way to set the preference back to "Bicubic Automatic. I'm also transform smart object layers so I would still have to use the save preference, change preference, transform, restore preferance method. This works if the users preference is set to some preference other the "Bicubic Automatic"
Message was edited by: JJMack
So to me it look like CS5 and CS6 transform work basiclly the same. There seems to have been some behavior changes made to CS6 I can not seem to put my finger on as well as the addition of the interpolation method in the option bar. I can't put my finger on it so it may be the same in CS5 and CS6.
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Message was edited by: JJMack
Over in the Adobe Feedback site several issues were posted with CS6 Transform one was marked "Not a problem" by Adobe. One was marked "Solved" by Adobe and the others have no Adobe markings the may on not be a problem
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Is there a solution to this, or an easy way to quickly update every instance of the smart object on the original doc?
To clarify: I know that you can change the dimensions of the smart object on the original doc and it'll fix it, my question is if there's a way to automatically have that happen and have the original doc smart objects respect your canvas size changes on the smart object doc.
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xg3 wrote:
When changing the canvas size of a smart object, the layer on the original document will distort visually since it doesn't update the size of the smart object.
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I am on a windows xp system and using the ps cs3 extended 10.0.1 version.
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