PSA Further Update on Process Chain

I am trying to use PSA Further update step on a process chain. I noticed that everytime I use this step it is using only one BTC procssors to load the data into datatarget.
On the other hand If I have an Infopackage set to PSA and DATATARGET parallel (2nd option in the Procss tab of IP) in the process chain the load is able to use same number of DIA process as the number of Data Packets. We have over 400 DIA processors available.
My question is can I able to use multiple DIA processes if I use PSA Further Update step?
Thanks
haran

Haran
I don't think it is using only one DIA for complete process chain. May be for the start processing it is using one DIA and after infopackage loading is started loads will split as per availability of servers and apparantly various DIA's. In general this is how it works.
Check this thread if it helps
Re: Identifying the BW report behind a long-running DIA wp
Thnaks
Sat

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