Psd eps with clipping paths broken in Tiger ..... ?

I have been having the following problem since UPGRADING to Tiger :
Any photoshop (7) eps files containing clipping paths (created newly or rendered from before the upgrade).
Problem : Placing them into illustrator (10) just brings in a blank box (no error message displays). Trying to import them into quark (5) either completly freezes qxd or it collapses. Freehand (MX) brings in an invisible image.
Can anyone help, please.
I am currently working on a vast range of packaging. All images are 'inherited' and need tweeking (incl their clipping paths) and brought back into their original illustrator files.
js

hello guru's!
come on.
i can't believe none of you knows of this problem or doesn't have some idea what to do about it.

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