PSE 12 and Lightroom 4

If a photo is opened in LR I cannot move to edit it in PSE 12

Thanks for that. Yes I got it to work but had to select Photoshop first. At which point I got a message that it was already the default editor; so I clicked choose anyway and got the jpeg option. I then switched to the PSE editor app and sure enough jpeg remained as a choice. Maybe the OP needs to switch apps and then re-select the PSE editor app. A bit odd really, even the difference between Photoshop as the default and Photoshhop as the additional choice!
Worked first time on Mac and LR5 without any messing about.

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I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

People who have Photoshop, but don't have Lightroom, need ACR so that they can use Raw files. Without ACR they could do nothing with those (they may also like having ACR so that they can work on other kinds of image using the same kinds of adjustments and techniques, as are used with Raw files).
People who have Lightroom, can get access to Raw files regardless whether ACR is present or not. They can use Lightroom on other kinds of image also, using the same methods. LR can pass images directly into Photoshop without passing via ACR (or else does so transparently, which amounts to substantially the same thing).
ACR does not, strictly speaking, even need to be installed for this external editing to happen. In fact, not even PS needs to be - since a different image editor can be used instead, while still retaining the Adobe Raw conversion etc.
Lightroom "subcontracts out" specialised external tasks, in this workflow, but is still your "main contractor": the image is otherwise located, viewed, managed, adjusted/presented and output entirely using LR.
So IMO we can divide image processing into:
operations that involve pixels and layers and layer masks and adjustment layers etc (of the kind done inside Photoshop)
operations that involve parametric edits (of the kind done in ACR where you are not using a Lightroom based workflow; otherwise, done inside Lightroom)
When PS is called in, that's because those tasks are impossible or unsuitable to do in Lightroom. But those tasks can't be done in ACR either - by definition, since LR and ACR have exactly the same image processing "feature set".
Lightroom is irrelevant to the Bridge + ACR + PS workflow. This workflow requires both your PS and your ACR to be current enough, to support your Raw format etc.
ACR and Bridge are irrelevant to the LR + (image editor) workflow. It is in this case, only LR which needs to be current enough to support your Raw format etc.
RP

Using PSE 6 and Lightroom together

I have been a fan of PSE for years and have built up a catalog with over 20k items. I am working more and more in raw format and Lightroom seems to meet my requiremeents well, but, how to use PSE 6 and Lightroom together. what do people do? keep the catalogs in both applications? catalog in PSE and just edit and print in Lightroom? Are Lightroom changes then reflected back in Elements when viewing images?
thanks for help and suggestions, Olly

I'd have to disagree slightly with Barbara - for me LR is primarily a RAW processor with a so-so Organising capability. Of course that's only my opinion.
Having LR and Elements working together is possible but it's really a one way street. The ability to Import an Elements Catalog is a feature of LR but it doesn't work very well. Tagging hierarchies get lost and even Date/Time info can go astray.
For me I had to start re-importing all my collection manually into LR and re-keyword them. LR is quick at applying keywords - which can also be done during the import process itself.
What you can do from LR is to open an image in Elements Editor for any creative work. LR creates a TIF version to edit in Elements and then keeps the results in it's library when you close the image.
My workflow now is to import new shots directly into LR and Keyword and Process them but I also export TIF files which I then have Elements Organise - Elements will pick up LR keywords correctly.
I just find Elements Organiser is faster and importantly allows you to select specifc images by selecting multiple AND combinations of Tags. LR only uses an OR function. I.e images that have only London AND Bob as opposed to images that have London OR Bob.
Printing I still do from Photoshop as I find it more controllable - particularly Print Sharpening.
Colin

Link PSE 10 and Lightroom 4

I cannot hand over photos from Lightroom 4 to PSE10 to process there further (Mac). Tried almost everything (with formats...) but they will not show up in PSE. No problem loading photos directly from database, though. Any idea? Thanks.

Thanks again.
The problem lies between your steps 1 and 2:
I select the respective photo in Lightroom,
chose "process in…. Photoshop Elements 10",
select the option "Process copy…",
the copy gets generated (visible as a second PSD thumbnail in Lightroom),
PSE window opens up
but the window remains blank.
I am using "PSD, Adobe RGB and 8 bit" currently as defaults (as I think that are the least "challenging" settings) but tried also everything else that came to my mind - no success so far.
Kind regards from Munich,
bikefranco
And it seems to be
Am 05.02.2013 um 16:54 schrieb 99jon:
Re: Link PSE 10 and Lightroom 4
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Works OK for me; how are you opening the files. You normally make the round trip from Lightroom as follows:
1) Ctrl+E in the Library to export selected image with develop settings (I choose PSD)
2) Edit in Elements; then Ctrl+S to replace (overwrite) Lightroom export copy
3) Ctrl+W to close in Elements and update Lightroom thumbnail.
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PSE 8 and Lightroom

What is the best way to pull in a photo from Lightroom to PSE 8?
I have been using Lightroom, but am new to PSE.
Thanks,
Leora

Hi Leora...
In Lr, select Edit...Preferences...External Editing. Under External Editor, browse for the PSE8 Editor under (Windows) C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 8.0. Select PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe. Then set File Format, Color Space, etc. to what you require. Then, right-click an image you wish to edit in PSE8, in either the Library or Develop, select Edit in..., and select PhotoshopElementsEditor.
Best
Dave

PSE to/and Lightroom

My question is will Lightroom enhance my already in use PSE3? Almost all FAQ and discussions are for CS2 but what about Elements?
Any advice would help.
Thanks!
Dan

So if I'm using LR to convert from RAW and then exporting for further edits in PSE3 will that be OK (this has been my workflow with Beta4)
And what about images already converted in PSE3 (often in Adobe RGB) and then imported as jpegs or Tiffs into Lightroom for colour correction and conversion to sRGB prior to posting to the web - will they be OK?
If yes to both - what is the potential problem?
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Paul

Upgrading PSE 8 to PSE 10 and adding Lightroom 3

Good Afternoon:
Presently I have PSE 8, with the software and photographs - about 4,500 - stored on a 1.0 tB external harddrive that I disconnect from the desk top when not in use. I did it this way because the desk top on has a 0.5 tB drive. I have purchased the boxed versions of PSE 10 and LR 3. LR 3 will be used for the initial intake of photos and processing and PSE 10 will be used for the harder edits. My questions are:
First, should the PSE 10 and LR 3 software be placed on the desk top or on the external drive with the photo files only stored on the external drive. The desk top drive is about 50% full. I have not looked into adding a second drive to the desk top.
Second, all present photos have been processed using using PSE 8, such as review and deleting the ones that weren't any good. Do I have to, as has been suggested on another web site, keep PSE 8 so that I can open the files with PSE 10 and LR3? After I upgrade to the new software, I'm intending to delete PSE 8.
Third, I've heard some horror stories and experieneced one myself when upgrading Adobe software or changing computers; Adobe can be pretty intolerant of the slightest change in the path of a file. Is there anything that I need to do/not do to make these upgardes as seemless as possible.
Fourth, is there any way to save multiple files to PSD files using the edit screen without having to open them in the organizer. My books indicate that it can be done, but I have had no luck at this.
Fifth, Photoshop has been a steep learning curve for me. I have not completed after two years final editing of any photograph because I'm still discovering and learning new techniques, and the obsession of the perfect edit, if such a thing even exists.
Any advice is appreciated.
Marion

MarionPavan wrote:
I have purchased the boxed versions of PSE 10 and LR 3.
LR4 has been released, check to see if you can upgrade at a reasonable cost.
MarionPavan wrote:
First, should the PSE 10 and LR 3 software be placed on the desk top or on the external drive with the photo files only stored on the external drive. The desk top drive is about 50% full. I have not looked into adding a second drive to the desk top.
PSE10 and LR should always be installed on an internal drive for performance reasons. In LR, you can set its catalog to use the external drive for its catalog only if you're running in to a free space crunch on your internal drive, but with 50% free that shouldn't be an issue. Using the external drive for the LR catalog is not a good idea, because of performance issues.
MarionPavan wrote:
Second, all present photos have been processed using using PSE 8, such as review and deleting the ones that weren't any good. Do I have to, as has been suggested on another web site, keep PSE 8 so that I can open the files with PSE 10 and LR3? After I upgrade to the new software, I'm intending to delete PSE 8.
If you have not used the PSE8 Organizer to tag your photos, etc., then there is no reason to keep PSE8 on your computer. If you've added tags to the photos in the PSE8 Organizer, then use PSE8 to write the keyword tags to the images and import them into LR.
MarionPavan wrote:
Third, I've heard some horror stories and experieneced one myself when upgrading Adobe software or changing computers; Adobe can be pretty intolerant of the slightest change in the path of a file. Is there anything that I need to do/not do to make these upgardes as seemless as possible.
The only problem with disconnected files would be within the PSE8 Organizer if you moved the photos outside of PSE. If you import the photos from their new, permanent locations into LR (starting fresh), you'll be OK.
MarionPavan wrote:
Fourth, is there any way to save multiple files to PSD files using the edit screen without having to open them in the organizer. My books indicate that it can be done, but I have had no luck at this.
I don't understand what you're trying to do.
MarionPavan wrote:
Fifth, Photoshop has been a steep learning curve for me. I have not completed after two years final editing of any photograph because I'm still discovering and learning new techniques, and the obsession of the perfect edit, if such a thing even exists.
Yeah, that's the fun of photo editing software -- there's usually more than one way to achieve an effect, and always something more to learn.
The bottom line is that you've purchased two excellent products in PSE10 and LR. Using LR to organize your photos and PSE's Editor for editing is a fine method. The only difficulty would be in the transition from the PSE8 Organizer to LR, and only if you have tags, etc., defined in PSE8.
Ken

Had PSE 8 installed on PC Windows 7 with a catalog backup on an external drive. Now have a Mac with OS Mavericks. If I install PSE 12 or Lightroom on this Mac can I use the cat. backup from Windows or must I start from scratch

Had pse 8 on a Windows 7 PC with a catalog backup on an external drive. Now have a Mac with OS Mavericks. If install pse 12 or Lightroom on the Mac will I be able to use the old catalog backup or must I start from scratch.

If you made a full catalog backup using the organizer's backup command, and you did it to a removable drive, yes, you can restore it to the mac. A backup made on discs will not work, though.

I'm trying to understand the difference between Photoshop Elements and Lightroom software.

Does one have things the other does not?

Hi,
Lightroom is to manage photos and produce derivative images without ever modifying an original file. Its processing functionality has a narrow feature-set covering the most common needs of professional photographers whereas Elements is a simpler yet powerful photo manipulation tool. Elements is designed to satisfy the needs of photo enthusiasts who like to manipulate images.
You can also go through the thread to understand the basic difference between PSE and Lightroom.
Check if this helps.
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Swapnil

PSE 7 and LR2

I have PSE 7 and online photo back up on photoshop.com. I just recently purchased Lightroom 2 (LR2) to edit my RAW files and am not certain where to start.
I do not want to store pictures in the seperate locations already established by me on my computer and that which is the "default" storage location for LR2. More spcifically, I keep my PSE pics in an Adobe file on my C drive and LR defaults to the My Pictures file in my documents.
If I copy all of the files/folders from Adobe to a new file in the My Pictures folder for LR how will PSE know where to sync my online album from?
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When is Adobe going to support 64bit, I7 CPU's in Elements and Lightroom?

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Hmm, when I use File > Process Multiple Files to convert a dozen raw files to PSDs, resizing them as well, I see both CPUs on my machine being used:
In general, I think that the full Photoshop does use multiple CPUs for compute-intensive tasks, and the PSE Editor, a stripped-down version of full Potoshop, also uses multiple CPUs. How well it does that, I don't know.

Will Elements and Lightroom open RAW files fro the Sony DSCRX-100 camera?

Will elements and l;ightroom open RAW files from the Sony DSCRX-100 camera ?

202daansn wrote:
Will elements and l;ightroom open RAW files from the Sony DSCRX-100 camera ?
I have the RX100 and confess to be an Adobe fan. You did not say which Lightroom or which elements you want to use. You need the latest versions.
Photoshop Elements 11 comes with Adobe Camera RAW (ACR) version 7.0 in place when you install it. Under the help menu, there is a choice to check for updates. If you do, ACR 7.2 installs. The RX100 is included in 7.2. Previous versions of Photoshop Elements will not udate to 7.2. When you open a RAW photo, a screen pops up that lets you adjust, convert and save to something Photoshop Elements can handle.
You have to have Lightroom 4.2 to get RX100 usefulness. Lightroom uses, but hides, the ACR engine. Instead the slider controls are built in the user interface. When you buy it, it installs as 4.0. The help menu also has an update choice so that you can get to 4.2 from 4.0.
You didn't ask, but Premier Elements 11 is a good choice for video because it is he first version that "officially" supports the high quality 1080p60 or "PS" setting in the RX100.
On T day, I shot RAW photos of my granddaughters dancing to a Wii game in terrible light. Yesterday I "adjusted" the batch of RAW shots taken with the RX100 in Lightroom and saved them as .jpg files. Today, I wll make a video in Premier Elements from those .jpg images, put in some pan and zoom effects, add a sound track and put it on Vimeo.
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I'm new to Adobe Lightroom 5 and Photoshop Elements 12. I open a Lightroom image in Photoshop Elements 12 by using Photo-->Edit In--> PSE12. I make a change in PSE12, and then "save." I understand that I'm supposed to overwrite the default file name. But, when I go back to LR, my PSE changes are not saved. What am I doing wrong?

I have LR 5 and PSE 12 and the interaction works fine for me. When I select the Edit in PSE option in LR, a TIFF file is created in LR, which is then being opened in PSE. Once done with editing in PSE, I choose Save, which brings me the overwrite file dialog and the TIFF file save settings dialog (compression, etc.) afterwards. Once saved, the TIFF is visible in LR with the changes.
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Issues with Adobe PSE 12 and Premier Elements 12 plus DiskWarrior 4.4

Since upgrading to the final version of OS X 10.10 Yoesemite I have issues with Adobe PSE 12 and Premier Elements 12 plus DiskWarrior 4.4. I don't recall their being any issues while I went through the Beta testing process. The Adobe products (PSE and PE) give me a configuration message "error 16" and it tells me to uninstall and reinstall. I have done this a few times/ It seems to go through the whole install process until the startup where it crashes. I downloaded PSE 11 and at least it starts up but I haven't used it to do anything. Also DiskWarrior 4.4 does not load up from the hard drive anymore (error message) and when I boot it up from disk is doesn't give me the option of correcting permission when repairing files and folders.
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Barbara,
Yes, I accessed the "updates" menu from the Help pull-down menu. I also accessed the updates using the Mac Terminal application with results shown in my original post. Regardless of whether I used the Help menu or the Mac Terminal app, the AAM tool still responded with:
Update Failed
   Updates could not be applied
   The error log file may help you in identifying the problem. The, try updating again. If the problems persist, contact customer support for further assistance.
The error log file read as follows:
   Photoshop Camera Raw 8.5
   There was an error installing this update. Please quit and try again later. Error Code: U44M1I210
   Looking at the the output of the Mac Terminal app, it shows:
   ... hdiutil: attach failed - no mountable file systems
   Is this relevant?
Regarding your follow-up message pointing to:
Update 12.1 installation errors | Photoshop Elements, Premiere Elements,
the files referenced in this link are present, are correctly named, and they are in the correct locations, so it would appear that these issues are not related to the ACR 8.5 update problem
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