PSE 12 buggy?

Is it just me? PSE 12 seems quite buggy. Current problem (repeatably, sporadic): edit in Editor, save, return to Organizer. Edits lost. Repeat; file has been saved as per usual, e.g. Xanthos-24.jpg will have generated Xanthos-24_edited-1.jpg and on saving I'll be asked whether I want to Replace (which I elect to do). On returning to Organizer, Xanthos-24.jpg itself is displayed, Xanthos-24_edited-1.jpg is nowhere to be seen. On 2nd attempt, Xanthos-24_edited-1.jpg was displayed for a while, then replaced by Xanthos-24.jpg. On 3rd attempt, got "Could not complete your request because of a program error".
I've also had problems editing, using Healing Brush and Clone Stamp Tool. Operations get part done, then stop.
Other times, everything works as expected. I don't think I'm misinterpreting how things are supposed to work - they are just working intermittently.

JKR98116 wrote:
Is it just me? PSE 12 seems quite buggy. Current problem (repeatably, sporadic): edit in Editor, save, return to Organizer. Edits lost. Repeat; file has been saved as per usual, e.g. Xanthos-24.jpg will have generated Xanthos-24_edited-1.jpg and on saving I'll be asked whether I want to Replace (which I elect to do). On returning to Organizer, Xanthos-24.jpg itself is displayed, Xanthos-24_edited-1.jpg is nowhere to be seen. On 2nd attempt, Xanthos-24_edited-1.jpg was
Yes, it's probably that bug:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1328850
and:
http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79900
To start with, before resorting to renaming the elementsautoanalyzer.exe, kill the process from the Windows task manager or the Mac equivalent. If that solves your problem and you don't use the autoanalyzer for videos, you can rename as indicated by Barbara Brundage.

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PSE 7 too buggy?

For the second time, I have tried to make the transition from PSE 4 to PSE 7 and for the second time, I am considering reverting. Is anyone else finding it too buggy to be really useful? I have noticed two main problems so far. The first is performance and may be related to my 3 year old computer. I have an HP Pavilion with and AMD Athlon 64 processor, 1MB of RAM at 986 Mhz. This seems to me to meet the systems requirements but, do I need to upgrade. Usually, PSE 7 will load as quickly as PSE 4 and will allow me to select and edit one or two photos. From there on, the program goes into calender timing mode. Literally, when I try to Save-As an edited photo, it can take 10-25 minutes to complete. Once that occurs, Catalog back-ups are equally slow. What normally takes me 8-10 minutes to do a full backup to a removable hard disc can take hours once the system slows down.
The second bug is that I work in the file folder mode. When I edit and save-as a photo sometimes with a different file name but always to a different folder, it appears to work successfully and, looking at "My Pictures" the edited photo is there. Unfortunately, it is often not in the Catalog. I haven't tried the date-view mode so I don't know if I'd have the same trouble. My method or organizing, that I have used since I began with PSE 4 almost requires I be in file-folder mode.
As an aside, using this forum, is there some way to return to where I was in the forum list once I complete reading a topic? When the topic is on page 2 or later of the list and I finish and hit back, it always returns me to page 1 of the list, not the page I was on when I selected the topic to read.

The extreme performance problems you're experienced aren't due to the specs of your computer -- 1 GB of memory on a 1 GHz processor should be fast enough. You don't say if you're on XP or Vista (Vista does better with more memory), but 1 GB is sufficient. (However, adding another 1 or 2 GB of memory would only cost about $50 and be the more effective upgrade for the money.) Something else is going on.
The second bug is that I work in the file folder mode. When I edit and save-as a photo sometimes with a different file name but always to a different folder, it appears to work successfully and, looking at "My Pictures" the edited photo is there. Unfortunately, it is often not in the Catalog.
You may be encountering one or two known bugs. First, when you do Save As, you often have to hit F5 (refresh) in the Organizer to cause the new thumbnail to appear, even though the photo really is in the catalog. Second, Folder Location view is buggy in both PSE 6 and 7, often showing the wrong contents of folders:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Folder_Location_view
PSE wasn't designed for relying on folders for organizing, so if that's important to you, you'll probably be better with some other tool.

PSE 6 Problems Fixed in PSE 7

Over the past year, Ive kept a list of PSE 6 problems Ive encountered and verified:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b65e1b/0
Ive tested those problems in PSE 7 on my computer, and the results appear below.
PSE 6 problems that appear to have been fixed in PSE 7 are marked [F], and problems that arent fixed are marked [NF]. Because of limitations of the forum, this list is split across several messages.
Overview
The good news is that Adobe has fixed many of the most serious problems with PSE 6:
- The missing Help content.
- The inability to use raw files on a newer computer.
- The Move command that deleted files.
- The low-contrast grey-on-black user interface.
In addition, the PSE 7 Organizer seems significantly zippier for scrolling and searching (with my 13K catalog and someone elses 68K catalog).
The not-so-good news is that a fair number of serious problems and a large number of minor ones remain unfixed:
- The Organizer still gets horribly confused by reassignment of drive letters and drives with duplicate serial numbers, situations that occur when people upgrade their computers.
- Numerous problems with searching, including the broken timeline and exclude keyword category.
- Folder Location view still shows incorrect folder contents.
- Map view remains a buggy toy that cant handle more than several hundred photos.
- Date/times set by Adjust Date and Time can still be lost silently.
- High-resolution displays with DPIs larger than 96 arent supported.
- The Organizer shows incorrect colors for Adobe RGB photos.
There are 65 issues listed here, 37 of which are major, causing data loss or seriously impeding functionality with no easy, obvious workaround. Of the 37 major issues, 13 have been fixed. Of the 28 minor issues, 8 have been fixed.
Ive reported all of these problems to Adobe. Almost all of them are in the Organizer. Based on all the reports on the forums, it appears that the PSE 6 Editor has far fewer problems the Organizer. Perhaps thats because the Editor shares the same code with the professional Photoshop, while the Organizer appears to be an orphaned consumer product whose development Adobe has moved offshore.
For reference, my computer is a midrange laptop with a dual-core 1.8 GHz processor, 3 GB of memory, and a 7200 RPM disk (the same speed as desktop disks).
Raw Files
Major Problems
[F] On a multiprocessor, the Organizer behaves erratically with catalogs containing raw files: sometimes it crashes, sometimes it shows the hourglass icon for raw files, sometimes it shows the broken-image icon.
[F] In a catalog with large numbers of raw files, scrolling quickly over dozens or hundreds of large-sized thumbnails will consume 100% CPU for a minute or longer.

Part II
File Management and Tagging
Major Problems
[F] The File > Move command will silently and permanently lose a file if the destination folder has a file of the same name as the file being moved; this is different behavior than PSE 5.
[F] The File > Move command loses the association between the photo and the audio caption, even though it moves both files to the new location.
[F] If you move or rename a catalog using File > Catalog > Move/Rename, you can no longer edit existing slideshows in the catalog.
[F] Tag hierarchies with more than 500 or so tags make the Keywords pane unusably slow (but worked fine in PSE 5).
[F] The Photo Downloader process APDProxy.exe crashes at startup because of a missing DLL.
]This problem doesnt occur in my PSE 7. But it was clearly a timing-dependent bug (a race condition) that came and went for me and many others, so it may be still lurking. Adobe has a tech note that says it occurs with PSE 7, but the tech note gives symptoms and a workaround that only apply to PSE 6, suggesting a cut-and-paste error by a PSE 7 support person.
[NF] The Organizer fails very ungracefully when two drives have the same volume serial number, e.g. because of the use of a disk-cloning utility.
]Im very disappointed that Adobe didnt add the three lines of code that would have issued a warning when it discovered two drives with the same number. While most people will never encounter this, when it strikes someone, its symptoms are very mysterious. Adobes tech note on the issue gives incorrect and misleading information about possible solutions.
[NF] The Reconnect command fails to reconnect when: you move your photos to a new drive, assign the drive the letter of the old drive to the new one, and leave both drives connected to your computer.
[NF] If a hard drive containing photos in the catalog gets its drive letter reassigned by Windows, then the left-hand folder pane of Display > Folder Location view shows the old drive letter, not the new one, as containing the photos.
]This sounds innocuous, but it led a user on the forums to select the wrong drive when dragging and dropping a folder, permanently deleting some files. This bug and the previous one with Reconnect have the same underlying cause the Organizer doesnt update drive letters in its catalog.
[NF] Folder Location view shows incorrect folder contents when more than one keyword tag is selected in the Keyword Tags pane.
]Based on reports on the forums, there appear to be other situations where Folder Location view shows incorrect folder contents, but they havent been easy to reproduce.
Minor Problems
[F] The File > Rename command no longer includes leading zeroes, causing the renamed files to sort incorrectly in Windows Explorer.
[F] Display > Import Batch shows the wrong time for batches imported by the Photo Downloader; if the local time zone is UTC-8:00, then the time will be 8 hours earlier.
[F] The Organizer doesnt unlock an edited file saved to a folder whose name contains an apostrophe.
[NF] In File > Export, the Common Basename can no longer be empty, and a hyphen is added automatically, so you can no longer get files named 1.jpg, 2.jpg, etc.
]You can get files named 1.jpg, 2.jpg, etc. but you cant get files named p1.jpg, p2.jpg, etc. a hyphen is still added in that case.
[NF] Setting the Apply Metadata > Author or Copyright fields or the option Preserve Current Filename In XMP of the advanced options of the Photo Downloader causes duplicate files to be downloaded and imported.
Map View
Major Problems
[NF] Map view is unusably slow with more than about 6-8,000 mapped photos.
]When I tested PSE 7 by importing 12,000 photos (the size of my catalog) that had GPS locations, the red push-pins didnt blink uncontrollably as they did in PSE 6. But the Organizer crashed a number of times when I tried to zoom and pan the Map view until I was able to scroll the map to another country and then back again. The CPU continued to consume 80% of a single CPU (40% of two), even 10 minutes after I closed Map view. When I selected Limit Search to Map Area, PSE took over a minute to respond.
[NF] It takes 5 seconds to assign a keyword tag to a photo if there are 1,000 or more photos with map locations.
]In PSE 7, it takes 3 seconds with 1,000 photos, 12 seconds with 8,000 photos, and 18 seconds with 12,000 photos.
[NF] Giving a map location to a tag assigned to hundreds of photos makes both the Keywords pane and the Map view unusably slow.
]Giving a map location to a tag assigned to 2000 photos makes assigning any keyword tag to a photo very slow (see above). Searching on keyword tags takes 15 seconds, and a Show All takes 15 seconds.
[NF] Removing the map push-pin of a tag assigned to hundreds of photos mistakenly tries to update the metadata of each photo, which can take tens of minutes and fill up your recycle bin.
]The weird thing is that assigning a map location to the tag doesnt try to write the metadata of files with that tag.
[NF] Moving map locations always fails, silently (too bad if you want to record backcountry locations not namable via a place name).
[NF] If a photo with GPS coordinates is imported, it doesnt show as a red push-pin on the map.
]Scrolling the map or restarting the Organizer causes the pin to appear.

PSE 7 scrambles my photos

In PSE 7 organizer, all my photos are fine up to a certain folder, then everything below that folder is completely scrambled. When I look on my hard drive, all photos are where they should be. This is the second time this has happened. Fixed it by rebuilding the catalog, but then I lost all my version sets. Has anyone else had this problem and know how to fix it?

I assume you're referring to Display > Folder Location view in the Organizer? Unfortunately, it's known to be buggy and often shows the wrong contents of folders. See this FAQ for possible workarounds that work for some but not all people:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Folder_Location_view
The Properties pane does show the correct folder location of photos, however, It's unfortunate that you rebuilt you catalog and lost your version sets. You could use Edit > Stack > Automatically Suggest Photo Stacks to put the versions into stacks -- that command does a pretty good job of identifying photos that used to be in version sets.
In general, PSE is designed for using tags, albums, dates, and star ratings for organizing your photos, not folders -- it's not a very good file/folder browser.

Custom page size in PSE 9 photobooks?

Does anyone know a way that allows one to create a photo book with a freely selected page size, such as 20 x 25 cm in PSE 9? The size options that present themselves when creating a book are quite limited, so I'm wondering whether there is a way to do this?
Best wishes
Karsten

Cindy,
You should get the FM updates. There have been 3 patches released since the 9.0p196 version. Install them in order.
Before creating PDFs, make certain that your default printer is set to the AdobePDF printer instance. The SetPrint utility from Sundorne helps ensure that this is always the case for FM, see http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm
In the Save As PDF dialogue, set the "Page Size" for the output on the Settings tab, as shown here:
Set your PDF joboptions for the appropriate press requirements.
Set your registration if required.
Make sure the "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is set (the PDF CMYK generation is still buggy).
Hit the "Set" button and you should get the correctly sized output.
When you were creating the ouptut via the printer route, if you had set the "Generate Acrobat Data" option, then FM sets the document so that it is always cropped to the FM page size, rather than the printer specified output sheet size, in the final PDF. Omit setting this option and it should work via this route as well.

PSE 7 catalog questions

I made an abortive attempt to upgrade from PSE 4 to PSE 7 in May. When I had difficulty converting my PSE 4 catalog and did not have time to deal with it, I de-installed PSE 7 and reverted to using PSE 4. Now, I am trying to update again and have 3 questions about the catalog.
1. When I did the catalog conversion in May, many of my tags and tag categories were missing or rearranged. Is there something I need to do in converting my PSE 4 catalog to 7 to prevent this from happening?
2. Now that I have re-installed 7, the old catalog I converted in May is still there. I need to delete this PSE 7 catalog in its entirety and reconvert my current PSE 4 catalog. When I try that, I get an error message that says "My Catalog already exists - use another catalog name". How do I get rid of the version 7 catalog from May?
3. PSE 4 gave me the choice of showing my photos in either date sequence or in file name sequence within each folder. Does PSE 7 have the same ability to display in file name sequence? If so, I can't find it.
I've got Barbara Brundage's book on the way and it may answer some of my simple questions but, in the meantime, if anyone can help with these I'd appreciate it.

1. When I did the catalog conversion in May, many of my tags and tag categories were missing or rearranged. Is there something I need to do in converting my PSE 4 catalog to 7 to prevent this from happening?
The conversion process is pretty buggy. Make sure you do File > Catalog > Recover in PSE 4 before attempting conversion. If that doesn't work, see steps 2 and 4 of this FAQ:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Problems_converting_cat alogs
2. Now that I have re-installed 7, the old catalog I converted in May is still there. I need to delete this PSE 7 catalog in its entirety and reconvert my current PSE 4 catalog. When I try that, I get an error message that says "My Catalog already exists - use another catalog name". How do I get rid of the version 7 catalog from May?
You can delete the old catalog by doing File > Catalog, selecting My Catalog, and clicking Remove.
3. PSE 4 gave me the choice of showing my photos in either date sequence or in file name sequence within each folder. Does PSE 7 have the same ability to display in file name sequence? If so, I can't find it.
Display > Folder Location

PSE 7 Organizer Folder Location View Unacceptably Slow

I see there are a lot of intelligent people posting here, so I thought I'd take a stab at explaining my problem. I recently upgraded to PSE 7 from PSE 6 because of the well documented PSE 6 bug that causes raw files to appear as broken thumbnails. Now that I am working on PSE 7 I have run into the problem referenced above: trying to operate in Folder Location View in organizer is painfully slow. Any attempt to switch to Folder Location View from Thumbnail view or attempting to filter anything (by star rating, for example) triggers a long wait - I would say 5-7 minutes - before the action is completed. I don't have the problem in Thumbnail View, but the problem is I rely on the folder hierarchy for my workflow and having 20,000 plus thumbnails not organized by folder does not help me at all. I am extremely frustrated!
I have already repaired and optimized. From what I've read, rebuilding the thumbnail cache doesn't appear to help either. Does anyone have any ideas for me? I really need to be able to use the Folder Location View. It's bad enough that I may have to go back to PSE 6 and live with the broken raw thumbnails.
Thanks in advance,
Dan

A number of people have reported tha Folder Location view is very slow, in both PSE 6 and PSE 7. (You're lucky it is fast for you in in PSE6.) In my catalog (13,000 files), PSE 7 takes 30 seconds to switch from Thumbnail view to Folder Location view; but once it's open, it's reasonably zippy. No one has posted any workarounds here.
Beware that many people have reported problems with Folder Location view in PSE 6 and 7 showing the wrong contents of folders. This often happens when you try to search by keyword tags, but some have reported it happening even with no searches applied.
In general, Adobe seems to treat Folder Location view as the stupid stepchild of the Organizer -- it's buggy, it's slow, and it isn't documented very well. The Organizer's sweet spot is organizing with keywords, albums, stacks, versions sets, dates, captions and other metadata.

PSE 7 catalog error when restoring backup from PSE 5

I am attempting to move from PSE5 on XP to PSE7 on Vista using the backup-restore method, . Catalog is about 75 MB, data set is 56 GB, all stored on external USB drive. Tried restoring in new folder using both with and without restoring folder arrangement.
On PSE 5, most images were online, scattered across E: partition and external USB disk. Restoring to PSE7, files are all restored to a new directory OK, but new catalog lists all files in E: as offline. Let me repeat... the images are moved into a new folder on the new system, but are shown in the organizer as still on a non-existent E: drive on the new computer.
I am left with thousands of untagged images, all of them ther newest and most important in my system.

Mahlon,
First, some additional questions:
1. Did you do File > Catalog > Recover and File > Catalog > Reconnect before doing the backup? Thats very important.
2. On the old computer, was E: a partition on an internal drive, an external USB drive, or a network drive?
3. In the restored PSE 7 catalog, are the suspect thumbnails shown with a yellow question icon in their corner or a red circle icon with a line through it (like the international power symbol)?
4. When you say files are still recorded in the catalog as being on the E: drive, is that as shown in Folder Location view in the left-hand folder heirarchy pane, in the center Folder Location pane, in the Properties pane, or all three? (Check all three, because sometimes PSE will show different drive letters.)
> This will take a dozen hours on the old system, and I'm skeptical that it will work. PSE7 already converts the PSE5 database in or out of the restore. But it can't correct the pathname on the old system to indicate that the files are local and not offline.
Recovering the PSE 5 catalog, reconnecting missing files, installing PSE 7, and converting the catalog to PSE 7 on the old computer should take about 30-45 minutes (doing a second backup will take much longer).
Converting the catalog on the old computer is different than converting it on the new computer. PSE 7 has a different catalog format than PSE 5 PSE 5 uses drive letters to identify hard drives, whereas PSE 7 relies on serial numbers, and the internal database format is completely different. When you restore to the new computer and try to convert the catalog at the same time, the conversion needs to both update the new paths of all the files
and convert from the old catalog format to the new one, changing drive letters to serial numbers. But when you convert to PSE 7 on the old computer, the locations of files and drives havent changed its just changing the database format. So its entirely possible that conversion will go correctly. Then when you backup the PSE 7 catalog and restore it on the new computer, backup/restore is just changing the paths of files, not converting from drive letters to serial numbers or changing database formats.
So thats why its quite possible (though not at all guaranteed) that converting to PSE 7 on the old computer and then doing backup/restore could produce different results different process, different results.
You have two other options, both of which might lose tags or other catalog information:
1. On your new computer in its current state, reconnect all the files in the catalog to their new locations. Because they are marked as offline (assuming they actually are offline, based on the answers to my questions above), the Reconnect command will tell there is nothing to reconnect. However, you can force PSE to reconnect offline files using a trick described in step 4 of this FAQ:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Quickly_reconnecting_la rge
This may or may not work, because its likely that the buggy conversion process has left your catalog in an inconsistent, unknown state, and there may be other problems still lurking. Also, persuading PSE to quickly reconnect whole folder hierarchies of files takes some patience (as youll see in the FAQ).
2. You can merge the PSE 5 catalog into a fresh PSE 7 catalog using this procedure: In PSE 5, save the tag definitions to a file, use File > Write Keyword Tag to write the keyword tags to the photos, copy the tag-definitions file and all the photos to the new computer using Windows Explorer, import the tag definitions into a fresh PSE 7 catalog, import the copied photos, and finally have PSE 7 automatically stack photos that used to be in version sets into stacks. These steps are described in detail in this FAQ:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Merging_Catalogs
This FAQ is written assuming the source catalog is in PSE 6 or 7, but I think it should also apply to a source catalog in PSE 5.
There are a number of problems with this. First, its time consuming. Second, youll lose version sets, stacks of photos that are *not* visually very similar or taken close together in time, collections (albums), and projects. The PSE File > Write Keyword Tag command has numerous bugs (in all versions), and youll most likely lose at least some, and perhaps much, of your tags, star ratings, captions, notes, dates/times, and GPS/map locations. If you have raw files in particular, youll very likely lose much or all of the metadata, but depending on the source of your JPGs and other file formats, those files could lose much information too. See the end of this FAQ for more details on the known bugs:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/#_Writing_File_Metadata

Problem burning H.264 to Blu-ray in PSE 7

I have a Dell XPS 435T with an i7 950 (3.07 GHz) and 9 GB RAM running 64 bit Vista. I bought this system specifically configured to edit native AVCHD videos from my camcorder and burn Blu-ray disks. When I first purchased this system (about 10 months ago) I could (and did) do all of this.
I took about 30 minutes of video and made a "practice" video and burned it to a BD-RE disk. The Blu-ray disk is labeled as HL-DT-ST-BD-RE BH20N. I found PSE 7 to be quite buggy with frequent crashes but chalked that up to a 32 bit app running on a new 64 bit operating system (Vista).
I haven't used the video editing capabilities for about 4 months. Last week I tried to utilize PSE 7 again and immediately was prompted to update - and did. I was hoping the new update would fix some of the crashes I experienced before. Now I can't burn to Blu-ray using the H.264 compression. It gets just about all the way through (95%?) and then I get an "Fatal Error" message. If I press cancel it tells me I have a burn in progress... but it appears to have stopped. I did manage to find out that MPEG-2 compression to Blu-ray does work. Even though this is a "work around", I would like to be able to use the H.264 compression in the future.
Does anyone have any ideas or fixes for this issue?

Thanks for the reply Steve.
I think I mislabeled the adobe application in my original post. The application is Premiere Elements 7 (the video editing software - not the photo editing software). I could have sworn I was prompted for an update as soon as I launched this app. Is your comment "there was no update to version 7" pertaining to both the video and photo editing applications?
The video source is a canon HG20 camcorder producing AVCHD (*.mts) files. The video project that did work approx. 6 months ago was created using these video clips. I did not edit this saved project... I simply tried to re-burn to Blu-ray disc using the H.264 format when the error occured. Again, this did work before.
Vista is fully up-to-date, as is my Blu-ray driver. I checked those yesterday. But I'm inclined to believe the encoding is not finishing and producing the "Fatal Error" message (as opposed to the burn failing). If the progress bar is to be believed, encoding stopped at 95 to 97 percent. After realizing the older project didn't work, I created a new project with different video clips (from same camcorder) but got identical error at same step in the burning. It was at this point that I tried the MPEG-2 encoding that did work.

Moving PSE 10 organizer to PSE 11 organizer

I have been using PSE since PSE 7-I purchased 7, 10, and 11. I am seriously looking for a better organizer solution.
My two catalogs worked fantastically well in the PSE 10 organizer - one click and just what I was looking for popped up. Not now! I am SOOOO done!
I repaired and optimized in PSE 10 - multiple times and still both catalogs (one with photos and one with digital scrapbooking supplies) refuse to convert properly. The photo catalog did not convert many of my pictures and many are no longer tagged, along with missing tags. The scrapbook catalog converted the Alaphabet folder and that's it and again, missing tags.
Searching the boards has been useless!
Any sane help would be greatly appreciated.
Debora

Hi,
There's no such bug. I mean navigation between files is the most operation one would do, how can that be buggy
You can double click an image to view it in Single Image View and use keyboard arrow keys to navigate left/right/up/down. Also double clicking an image which is fully zoomed out takes you back to previous zoom-in state where all thumbnails were visible.
You may also try other views to arrange you media in grid - Thumbnails, Import Batch, Date View, Folder Location. These are available in 'Display' dropdown present on the top right corner of the application.
Thanks
andaleeb

PSE folder views

I have used Picasa for photo organizing up til now. I would like to give PSE 8 a try so I downloaded the trial version and I have two quick questions.
The first question is:
In Picasa the folders are listed on the left side of the window. So if I want the photos from a certain folder all I need to do is click on the appropriate folder. Does PSE 8 have this? I can't seem to find anything.
The second question:
In Picasa 3.5 they now have facial recognition but this information is stored in a seperate database not on the photo itself. Basically if i tag people's faces on one computer and send it to another computer the facial tags do not go with it. There are steps to get around this but its kind of clunky.
Does the facial recognotion in PSE 8 get stored in the metadata of the picture?
Thanks for any help

So if I want the photos from a certain folder all I need to do is click on the appropriate folder. Does PSE 8 have this?
Give the command Display > Folder Location. Beware that in previous versions of PSE, it is pretty buggy and often shows the wrong contents of folders. Not clear if that happens with PSE 8. It is also extremely slow on large catalogs (thousands of photos). PSE really wasn't designed to organize photos using folders.
Does the facial recognotion in PSE 8 get stored in the metadata of the picture?
The keyword tags identifying the people get stored in the metadata, but you need to give the command File > Write Keyword Tag. Note that the rectangular coordinates for each face do not get stored.

PSE 8 will not install on my iMac

I've been trying to install PSE 8 on my iMac for the last 8 hours and I've searched and read until my mind feels foggy...
I just installed Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.2 and then tried to install PSE 8. After I insert the installation disk I get a PSE 8 disk image on my desktop. When I click on the disk image a PSE window opens that contains a PSE 8 folder and a Adobe Reader folder and Readme files in several languages. Clicking on the PSE 8 folder only opens other miscellaneous files and none of seem to have anything to do with starting the installation process.
The strange thing is that, on one occasion after dozens of tries to start the installation, I clicked on the PSE 8 folder and it opened a window with a setup folder. When I clicked that folder, installation began and I thought everything was going to be o'k. But, in the end, I got a message that the installation had failed. I restarted my computer and tried again but the setup folder is nowhere to be found again. When I checked my applications, I found that Bridge CS4 and Extension Manager CS4 are there but there is no PSE 8 editing program.
Something is obviously buggy and/or some installation files are corrupted and I have no idea what to do next.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

O'k...thanks for you help V...I managed to finally get PSE 8 successfully installed!
Here is what worked for me:
1. I used an a great, little application named AppDelete to uninstall Bridge CS4 and Extension Manager for CS4 and anything else Adobe that was added to my applications folder from the previous failed installation attempts. Some parts of the total PSE 8 package were actually getting installed (Bridge CS4 etc.) but, near the end of the installation process, it would hang up and abort when the progress bar showed "now installing PSE 8."
By the way, AppDelete is an inexpensive Mac uninstaller that can be purchased and downloaded from the web. It finds and deletes files that are often left behind when deleting applications by the normal proess of dragging them to the trash on a Mac.
(Note: I did not uninstall Photoshop CS which was the only other Adobe app I have since it wasn't associated with my attempts to install PSE 8.)
2. Then using the PSE 8 installation disk to open the PSE window, I copied the PSE 8 folder to my desktop, ejected the installation disk and then started the reinstallation by clinking PSE 8 setup folder from my desktop. This time the installtion was successful.
It appears that something got messed up when I upgraded to Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.2 and then tried to install PSE 8. Judging from the number of posts I found regarding others who have experienced similar problems, I hope Adobe is working on a patch for Mac users.
I'm not sure why this problem occurred in the first place, but with your assistance it has been solved.
Thanks very much!

Unable to add Keyword Tags in Organizer PSE 9

I am beyond frustrated at this point. I have never run across a more buggy program than PSE9 (or 8 for that matter). I am particularly having trouble with the organizer in PSE 9. I have spent that last day or so tagging a catalogue of about 2000 photos when suddenly the organizer froze up. I killed it and restarted. Then it wouldn't even load. So I thought to load another catalogue to see if that worked. It loaded up just fine. I switched to the catalogue I had had the problem with and PSE pretty much shut my computer down at that point. So, I restarted the computer, loaded up the organizer and actually got it to open the catalogue. I ran a repair on it. It said that it had fixed some errors. Great, I thought, everything is fine. Well, no, it wasn't. Now whenever I attempt to add a keyword tag, delete a keyword tag, or even add a caption, the organizer just gives me an error. It is only happening on this particular catalogue. I have repaired it, optimized it, and even regenerated the thumbnails. I always get an error when I try to edit anything. I can view the pictures just fine. I can open them up from the organizer into the editor just fine. I just can't delete, add captions or keyword tags at this point. If I have lost the all the work I did last night and today tagging these photos, then I am going to be mighty mad. If anyone has any suggestions, then please let me know. I don't want to think that I have wasted time, and most of all, money on this program. Thanks.

I am beyond frustrated at this point. I have never run across a more buggy program than PSE9 (or 8 for that matter). I am particularly having trouble with the organizer in PSE 9. I have spent that last day or so tagging a catalogue of about 2000 photos when suddenly the organizer froze up. I killed it and restarted. Then it wouldn't even load. So I thought to load another catalogue to see if that worked. It loaded up just fine. I switched to the catalogue I had had the problem with and PSE pretty much shut my computer down at that point. So, I restarted the computer, loaded up the organizer and actually got it to open the catalogue. I ran a repair on it. It said that it had fixed some errors. Great, I thought, everything is fine. Well, no, it wasn't. Now whenever I attempt to add a keyword tag, delete a keyword tag, or even add a caption, the organizer just gives me an error. It is only happening on this particular catalogue. I have repaired it, optimized it, and even regenerated the thumbnails. I always get an error when I try to edit anything. I can view the pictures just fine. I can open them up from the organizer into the editor just fine. I just can't delete, add captions or keyword tags at this point. If I have lost the all the work I did last night and today tagging these photos, then I am going to be mighty mad. If anyone has any suggestions, then please let me know. I don't want to think that I have wasted time, and most of all, money on this program. Thanks.

Converting PSE 4 catalog to PSE 7 catalog

I have several slideshows I put together in PSE 4 before saving them as wmv files to take over to Premiere Elements 2 to add a menu and burn to DVD. I had problems doing this and have just installed PSE 7 so I can save them as avi files instead but I am unable to find the original slideshows in the PSE 7 catalog. I did a search in Program Files for My Catalog and found the PSE 4 one but I'm not sure where to find the PSE 7 one, or how to move them over. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

1. When I did the catalog conversion in May, many of my tags and tag categories were missing or rearranged. Is there something I need to do in converting my PSE 4 catalog to 7 to prevent this from happening?
The conversion process is pretty buggy. Make sure you do File > Catalog > Recover in PSE 4 before attempting conversion. If that doesn't work, see steps 2 and 4 of this FAQ:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Problems_converting_cat alogs
2. Now that I have re-installed 7, the old catalog I converted in May is still there. I need to delete this PSE 7 catalog in its entirety and reconvert my current PSE 4 catalog. When I try that, I get an error message that says "My Catalog already exists - use another catalog name". How do I get rid of the version 7 catalog from May?
You can delete the old catalog by doing File > Catalog, selecting My Catalog, and clicking Remove.
3. PSE 4 gave me the choice of showing my photos in either date sequence or in file name sequence within each folder. Does PSE 7 have the same ability to display in file name sequence? If so, I can't find it.
Display > Folder Location

How to use keyword tags effectively in pse 8

No matter what I try, have not been able to make keyword tags work effectively. Have followed all directions from books and others. Even customer support was not able to help.
The problem is that tagged photos will not show up by themselves. All other photos in the catalog open at the same time. The tagged photos sometimes show a blue circle with a white check mark through it. All the other photos show a red circle with a slash accross it in the upper left hand corner of the photos.
Customer support says that that is how the program works. I don't believe it!
Wold uninstalling and reinstalling pse 8 work?
Any other suggestions?

Would you consider suggesting a work-flow for someone who is just starting out with Organizer? (As an aside, if you are familiar with Picasa, would you give your opinion about the relative merits of Picasa and PSE Organizer?)
In all honesty, I can longer recommend the Organizer -- it's buggy, slow, hard to use, and Adobe shows little inclination for fixing bugs that have been around since PSE 6 or earlier. (I use it because I have large catalogs dating back to Photoshop Album 1.) See my review:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R332BXA5A70OL9/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
As for alternatives: At the low end, many people are satisfied with the free or almost-free programs: iPhoto, Picasa, Windows Live Photo Gallery (which in my opinion is better than iPhoto). These are fast and easier to use than PSE and can handle thousands of photos. For more sophisticated users with larger catalogs, many people like Lightroom, Aperture, Imatch, Idimager, and ACDsee Pro.

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