PSE 6 and keyword tagging

I've been trying to use keyword tags to identify my images (I have four categories of tags one of which has subcategories numbering 40+ the others have far fewer) and I'm experiencing problems with Elements crashing, hanging and images disappearing from my hard drive. I am a fairly inexperienced user but I'm very careful and methodical in my processes and I just can't figure out the problem. I'd really appreciate any ideas/theories anyone might have.

Here are some tips for Organizer crashes
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Troubleshooting_Organizer_ crashes
Adding tags shouldn't cause images to disappear from your hard drive. Are you 100% sure that adding tags is the reason?

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This is actually the Photoshop forum, and you would do better in the Elements forum.
http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements
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In Photoshop 11, when I create a new Album name or category, do I need to choose "Save Albums to File"?
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- what is stored automatically in the metadata section of the files (or in .xmp sidecar files) : mostly captions and file 'date original'
- what is stored manually via the 'write metadata to file' command : mainly tags, categories, ratings, notes, captions...
- what can't be stored because it's not information pertaining to individual files : albums, stacks, version sets. That's why you should prefer to use tags instead of albums if you don't need a custom sort order.
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--Michael

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Back to the original question, after thinking about this for a couple days I have had two ideas for workarounds:
1) Copy my tag names into the photo metadata and create a new catalog to bring all of my images into. This will allow me to keep all of my existing tags, and it MIGHT solve the tag display problem based on a test with a couple images in a new catalog. The downsides to this are a) permanently writes my tags into the photo metadata which will be bad if I decide to change something later, b) loses all version sets, and c) loses all albums (although I don't have that many). I found instructions for this workaround at http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Merging_Catalogs.
2) Live with the lack of color tag display in Organizer, and use reverse searches to find missing tag categories. For example, if I want to find all photos that do not have a "Places" tag, I check the box next to the "Places" category (which also selects all sub-categories and tags below this). Then I go to the Options drop-down in the Find Bar and "Hide best match results" and "Show results that do not match". This gives me every image in my catalog that does not have a tag from the "Places" category, so I can go through and tag these as appropriate.
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