PSE 6 face tagging

Vista - When using the face tagging feature, system crashes as soon as I try to apply tag.

Is the problem coming everytime you perform face tagging?
Can you try with some different sets of photos?
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PSE 11 People & Face tags & Metadata

Hi All,
I'm using PSE 11 and have imported some photos that were being used in Photo Gallery. My problem is the People/Face tags done in Photo Gallery are not recognised by PSE at all. It detected all other tags OK and imported them but not the People ones. It seems (logically) that 'real' People tags are in a different metadata field than normal tags. However the People tags in PSE are just stored in the 'normal' metadata tags field.
So.. I guess I am asking if anyone knows of a way to get the people tags from metadata into the tags field which PSE will recognise in the same was as its face recon? NB: I am aware of ways I can filter and retag but we are talking about 15,000 family history photos
I'm a little baffled that PSE is not making use of the metadata People field at all - might help get rid of all those nasty breezedata files. But I guess they need a few ways to try to lock people into PSE once they go there. BTW I've been using since the old V1 photoshop album. Never found enough of anything 'great' enough to move but always 'baffled' by things PSE does, doesn't do, takes away or breaks each release never with a patch or update.
So any way to move data from People tag to Tags tag that still takes the face location?
Thanks,
Flano

There is no conversion process because the people module is new to PSE11.
Importing from earlier versions simply brings in key words.
You need to decide if you want to stick with your key words and get this:
Or fully use the new feature and get suggested people stacks:

Face-tags in photoshop elements 8

In photoshop elements 8, are the "face tags" written" in the IPCT (or other metatags, like XMP), or are they only recorded in the database of PSE. Is it possible to insert them in the IPTC.
(Excuse-me for my bad English...)
Michlvill

the face tags or any nornal tag will not be written to the file, unless you explicitly mention by using Write Keywords tags to file option

PSE7 Faces tagging doesn't work (No items are selected)

Hi,
I try to use the Faces tagging feature in PSE 7 (with windows vista 32bit sp1) but it doesn't work.
For some reasons, the faces tagging interface never display the photos I've selected. In the lower left corner, it says "No items are selected".
I tried selecting zero, one or more photos in the photo browser. When I select zero photos, it asks me if I want to find faces on all the displayed picture (I have about 5 000 pictures) but none appears in the faces tagging interface.
The menu item Find->Find Faces for tagging and the button Face Faces for Tagging give the same result (doesn't work).
Can anyone help me?
Cheers,
Alexandre

Hi,
Thanks for the help, but it did not work :(
I tried two times:
1) The repair command said it did not find any error and I said No to "Repair anyway", then optimized.
2) Same thing, but I said yes to Repair anyway with the Visually similar content checkbox checked.
Cheers,
Alexandre

Using Face Tagging and need more photo info

I have PSE 4.
I'm using the Face Tagging feature of Organizer.
For some of the faces I need to get a better look at the entire photo in order to identify who the face is. Is there a way that I can get a bigger thumbnail? Or even better is there a way to identify the image where the face came from? The thumbnail that pops up in the lower right hand corner of the screen doesn't seem to allow anything to be done with it. If I could just get the name of the file, that would be fine. Any ideas?

fwiw, the reason I need help with these faces is that I'm working on a set of old (1920/1930) photos. A lot of faces of people I've never met. Plus baby pictures. I have text descriptions of who the people are at the bottom of the photos. So when I see the face I need to be able to look at the photo and that text to properly tag it.
Is there any way that the Face Finder can 'organize' the faces so that similar faces are kept together? That would make tagging them easier. I noticed that the Find by Visual Similarity function rates the selected photos with a percentage grade so there must be some technology that can compare two images and figure out how closely related they are to each other.

Does Aperture support deletion of multiple "unnamed" face tags?

Faces is a great feature. I love it.
I have 40,000 pictures in iPhoto. iPhoto currently does not have a way to select all "unnamed" face tags in a photo and remove them. I have to click each separate "unnamed" face tag to delete it. Because of the volume I am working with, without a global delete feature, I am looking at a 100-hour project (approximately 60,000 mouse clicks) to accomplish the deletion of all these "unnamed" face tags.
I was hoping that Aperture would offer this feature, since it is a Pro app. I called Apple today and they told me that "No, Aperture does not have this feature, either."
Does anyone know if Aperture does have a way of doing this? I tried to get an Apple Aperture support rep on the phone to think "outside the box" today on this, but he couldn't think of anything.
It just kills me that because I can't select multiple face tags in a photo and mass delete them with a single keystroke or click that I'm facing 100-200 hours worth of work, literally about 60,000 mouse clicks, in order to get rid of all my "unnamed" face tags.
Thanks for any ideas anyone might have.

Why is it worth 100 hours of your time to remove them?
(While I think_if_ there is a way to do what you want.)

Greyed out Face tagging- Still!?!

I have a library of 15,000 photos. I would say only 1/16th of them have face tags. I have done library rebuilding. I have been on the phone with support to try their "Solutions". I see no spinning wheel next to faces like it's actually working to find more. However, iPhoto continues to write 387mb to my drive every minute while open. I am assuming it is finding photos to face tag, but I look through and there isn't that many new face tags. Terrible that it takes that much space to tag a face. I have left my library open for about 6 months now and it's still writing and writing to my drive and tagging photos is still greyed out on a majority of my photos.
I want a real answer from someone who is intimate about the program. If this program was made for a library of 500 photos then just friggin tell me and I will move on!
Does anyone know a proceedure that will fix this issue and force the faces to work properly? Quickly identifying missing faces and allowing tagging of all photos in libraries this large.

So, what solutions have you tried? It saves time for everyone if you tell us all the things you know already won't work.
There's a question that might yield useful answers. You have provided no details at all, not even the most basic information such as the version of iPhoto, where your Library is stored and so on.
And yes, I would happily say everything I have already written to your face. Frankly, your frustrations with Apple Support are of no interest, nor is your unhappiness. I don't work for Apple, no one here does. But I know something of iPhoto and am often happy to help other users. That said, users who simply whine and are argumentative soon prove tiresome and I quickly lose interest.

PSE Organizer tags to file metadata?

PSE Organizer tags are not automatically included in the picture files' metadata.
I have observed that tags are transferred to file metadata if you do the following:
1. Tag the native picture file using the organizer
2. Create and save an edited copy of our native file, using the editor
Result: Organizer tags are included in the file metadata, for both the edited copy AND the native file.
Is there any way to tell PSE to automatically include tags in the file metadata, or second best; is there a way to do this manually "en gross" (i.e. for a large selection of files in one operation)?
Finn

File>Write tag and metadata information to photos write the tag, GPS and other info to the photo file.
~V

Import separate library with faces 'tags'

I want to import some events with face tags from a separate library. How can I import the library with the face tags (and event names) from one to another? This is what I've done so far but have been unable to import the faces. I selected the event from a iPhoto library I want to move and exported the event/photos to a folder. I then opened iPhoto with the library I want to import TO and selected import. Photos are there, but no face tags or events. Am I missing something or is there an better way?

the best way to move photos between libraries is iPhoto Library Manager - http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ - Check their documentation - http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/Help/table%20of%20contents.html - to see if they handle faces (I doubt that they do)
LN

Does Photoshop CC 2014 have the ability to do face tagging in pictures?

We have many group pictures that we want to identify everyone in the picture, but not paste text on the picture itself. There are other products, even MS photo that have this ability, that create a small file attached to the picture with the names (and knows the face) of everyone in the picture. I want to be sure Photoshop CC 2014 can do this before I Pay for a yearly subscription. Photoshop is the best product for general photography work and I would like to have one product that does this face tagging as well.

Good day!
Photoshop does not have facial recognition, Photoshop Elements does, though.
You can make use of the free 30 fay trial to figure out if Photoshop proves the features you need.
Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

Face Tagging bug report

Bug report: when using the Face Tagging function if the collection of images to search includes images that are too large ('File size is too large' icon), Elements crashes.

Fred,
Thanks for posting that its good to share such discoveries. You could also send the bug report directly to Adobe, since they dont guarantee to pay attention to these forums (though there are a number of employees or contractors who do post here frequently without attribution). See the link at the bottom of this page:
http://www.adobe.com/support/photoshopelements/

ADF FACES: HTML template text Layout is broken when uses ADF Faces tags

This works fine:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<%@ page contentType="text/html;charset=windows-1252"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core" prefix="f"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/html" prefix="h"%>
<f:view>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"></meta>
</head>
<body>
<h:form>
<table border="1">
<tr>
<td width="45%">
<h:dataTable rows="5" bgcolor="Red" value="#{class1.names}" var="name">
<h:column>
<h:outputText value="#{name}"/>
</h:column>
<h:column>
<h:outputText value="#{name}"/>
</h:column>
</h:dataTable>
</td>
<td width="55%">
<h:inputText/>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</h:form>
</body>
</html>
</f:view>
=> a table is rendered with one row and two columns; in the first column the data table is rendered in the second the inputText
Changing to ADF Faces tags breaks the layout:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<%@ page contentType="text/html;charset=windows-1252"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core" prefix="f"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/html" prefix="h"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://xmlns.oracle.com/adf/faces/EA11" prefix="af"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://xmlns.oracle.com/adf/faces/EA11/html" prefix="afh"%>
<f:view>
<afh:html>
<afh:head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"></meta>
</afh:head>
<afh:body>
<af:form>
<table border="1">
<tr>
<td>
<af:table rows="5" value="#{class1.names}" var="name">
<af:column>
<h:outputText value="#{name}"/>
</af:column>
<af:column>
<h:outputText value="#{name}"/>
</af:column>
</af:table>
</td>
<td>
<h:inputText/>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</af:form>
</afh:body>
</afh:html>
</f:view>
=> at the begin of the page an empty table is rendered; below the data table is rendered and below the inputText
It think it should be possible to layout the page with HTML template text and use ADF Faces tags.

As of EA12 (and EA13) <afh:body> is what is known as a "rendersChildren" tag. It needs to do so in order to support partial-page rendering This means that template text inside it needs to be wrapped inside <f:verbatim>.
For later releases of ADF Faces, I've filed an enhancement request to loosen up this restriction for <afh:body>.

Removed face tags in iPhoto remain on Facebook

Hello,
I have published pictures with face tags to Facebook. Adding new faces to the picture in iPhoto works just fine, the changes appear on Facebook. However, when I delete faces from pictures in iPhoto, the tags don't get removed from the Facebook page.
I did click on the sync-symbol next to the published albums name.
Has anyone similar problems with Facebook synchronization?
Thanks for any help.

There is no standard field for faces. To transfer information you must put it in the standard place that the new program will use. That does not exist for faces. One work around would be to use keywords. You include the available metadata in a photo by checking all if the boxes when you export the photo(s). What the receiving program is determined by the authors of that program. All iPhoto can do is write what it offers to the IPTC & EXIF fields which it will
LN

Face Tagging in Elements 13

Hi Forum
Can anyone help to explain why the Auto Face Tagging process (Add People) in Elements 13 would not find what are obvious faces in images containing very clear faces? The faces are 'face on' and large in size and yet Elements reports- No new People found in your selection.
Any help welcome as not keen to have to manually tag a few thousand images.
Regards
David

Hi David,
Thank you for the very detailed reply. I appreciate you taking the time to list it all out.
I followed each of these steps exactly as listed. After I copied the images back, PSE13 saw them and then I tried to add a face. It analyzed the photo and it still says "No New People Found In Your Selection". I removed the tags, renames the Breeze file, deleted from the catalog, everything.
I was so hoping that this would have corrected it.
And now PSE13 is starting it's memory leak (that I reported in a different post).
Whenever it analyzes a photo and doesn't find anything, it goes into a loop, leaking memory until the app eventually crashes because of no memory left. Other running apps die as well. And I have 16GB of RAM.
Thanks again for your help. I will keep researching.
Erick

Face Tagging in elements 10

When using the face tagging facility in elements 10 whatever selection of images I choose the function runs and then I receive the message "no unlabelled people found in selection" or"congratulations you have lebelled everyone in your selection" when there are numerous unlabled people in the selection - any ideas? thanks

You are in the wrong forum, ama261.
the Photoshop Elements forum is here:
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