PSE 9 Organiser - Smart albums & album categories

Is it posible to move Smart Albums into an Album Category, as the drag and drop is not working for me. I can creat normal Albums and drag them in to an Album Category but Smart Albums do not appear to allow themselves to be moved from the highest level where they are created?

Smart albums are smart for two reasons. The first one is that with a database system like the Organizer, storing a query takes so much less disk space and avoids cumbersome tables and indexes...
The second one, as I stated, is that the definition of criteria instead the listing of individual files will work even if you add files or delete them. This may be considered an advantage... or a disadvantage if you want to 'freeze' the result of the query. That's why I think the only simple way the software could do this would be to duplicate the result in a normal album (or collection). I do not see any reason it could not be done automatically, but the user would have to be aware of this change in some way. I am convinced that would entail much confusion for many users.

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Photoshop Elements Help | Organize your photos in albums and album categories

This question was posted in response to the following article: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/getting-started/create-albums-album-categories.h tml

I always learn so much by everyone's postings and your response. Thanks much!
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I have now downloaded all the pictures in my camera directly into PSE Organiser. The pictures are all in folders listed by date the pictures were taken. Are they now safely housed in the PSE program?
PSE does not contain your photos. The photos are on your hard disk(s) somewhere, wherever they were put when they were moved from the camera to the hard disk (might be the default location chosen by PSE).
Can I delete the old Canon programs, which are still sitting on my Mac?
Yes
And if I want to back up on an external hard-drive, how do I do that? Just drag the whole lot across?
Your interest in making backups is to be commended.
There are many ways to make backups, including the way you just suggested. You can also create a backup using PSE (which I recommend) since it includes the photos and the very important catalog file. In PSE, File->Backup Catalog, and set the destination of the backup to your external HD. Remember to do this regularly.
Sometimes when I've used 'Smart Fix" or other tools in the Photo Fix toolbox, I'm not happy with the result. But how can I 'undo' a fix and revert to how it was before?
PSE should create a version set when you do any editing, including the Smart Fix. Thus, you just need to expand the version set (right-click on the photo) to see both the original and the Smart Fix. Then you can delete the Smart Fix version.
-- I want to create an album "Europe 2012", and within it categories for UK, France, Italy etc. But although I hit 'create album category' when Europe 2012 is highlighted, the category just attaches to the last listed album - something completely unrelated. How do I ensure categories are within the correct albums?
I'm going to strongly recommend you don't do this via albums (unless your intent is to share the contents of the albums online somehow, in which case use Albums). I recommend you use tags instead of albums for this purpose. You can create a tag called Europe under Places, and another tag under Europe called France. I would also recommend you not bother including year or other calendar information in the tag (or album) names. You want "Europe" as your tag, not "Europe 2012". Why? Because you can always segregate by year (or other calendar time period) using the PSE Timeline; there's no need to do extra work to segregate the tags by year (or other calendar time period).
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Whats the difference between and Album and a Smart Album

OK, just upgraded.... So, whats the difference between an Album and a Smart Album?
Also, I like to organise my stuff, so if I create a folder for each year, and then a project within that year, why is it that the photos are always in both - and then again if I chose to create an album specific to a project, they are there again.
So it might look:
          Folder (2012 Equine Photography)
               Project - Specific Events
                    Album - Big Barn Dressage May
Does this mean the individual photo is stored 3 times and using 3 times the space?
Thanks guys!

Mrsthebraggster wrote:
So it might look:
          Folder (2012 Equine Photography)
               Project - Specific Events
                    Album - Big Barn Dressage May
Does this mean the individual photo is stored 3 times and using 3 times the space?
No. Conceptually the Master only lives lives in the single (time based) Project you import it into. Albums are just collections of pointers that point to images in various Projects.
"Big Barn Dressage May" could be a Project, but only if it is only one day and a limited number of image files; otherwise an Album. "2012 Equine Photography" should be an album or a Folder of Albums. "Specific Events" could be an Album or a Folder of Albums.
A Project should not be used as a Folder.
From an earlier post of mine:
Folders are indeed flexible organizational tools but IMO often overused. Folders can effectively hide contents from view and therefore require users to remember how folders are nested and what is inside them. Folders were the only way to deal with single-original film, but are IMO limiting to image database thinking.
The way I look at it conceptually:
Aperture is a database (DB), and each image file lives in one Project.
Albums are just collections of Pointers that point to individual image files living in one or more Projects. Since they just contain pointers, albums can be created or deleted at will without affecting image files. Very powerful. And Albums of pointers take up almost zero space, so they are fast and do not make the Library size grow.
Keywords can be applied to every image separately or in batches. Keywords are hugely powerful and largely obviate the need for folders. Not that we should never use folders, just that we should use folders only when useful organizationally - - after first determining that using keywords and albums is not a better approach.
As one example imagine the keyword "flowers." Every image of a 100,000 images Library that has some flowers in it has the keyword flowers. Then say we want to put flowers in an ad, or as background for a show of some kind, or to print pix for a party, or even just to look for an image for some other reason. We can find every flower image in a 100k-image database in 2 seconds, and in another few seconds create an Album called "Flowers" that points to all of those individual images.
Similarly all family pix can have a keyword "family" and all work pix can have a key word "work." Each individual pic may have any number of keywords. Such pic characteristics (work, family, flowers, etc.) should not be organized via folders.
So by using keywords and albums we can have instant access to every image everywhere, very cool. And keywords and albums essentially take up no space in the database.
Another approach is to use a folder "Family" for family pix, a folder "Flowers" for flowers pix and another folder "Work" for work pix. IMO such folders usage is a very poor approach to using an images database (probably stemming from old paper or film work practices). Note that one cannot put an image with family in a field of flowers at a work picnic in all three folders; but it is instant with keywords.
HTH
-Allen

Smart Album to show pics with no faces, & any photos that iPhoto no faceID

Hi, I've just started to use iPhoto 09, after a long long time getting to know my iMac, and organising my iTunes library...
I want a smart album to show photos which have no faces, but also to have photos which iPhoto has not picked up that a photo needs a "face ID" on, what I mean is, if a person is turned away to to the side, iPhoto might not pick up that it needs to be a "face" and so wont show up in the normal smart album Photo>is>unnamed
if anyone can help, would be great, I'm busy slowly importing my photos, and what to do this one step at a time
cheers

A smart album with the criteria "Face is unnamed" will find any photo with an unnamed face on it. It can be either one with a named face or two but at least one unnamed face or a photo with no faces named.
There is workaround to get what you want.
1 - add a keyword, face, to any photo you name a face in.
2 - create a smart album with the criteria "Keyword is not face".
This will identify any photo with no face at all. If you've not added any other keywords to photos you can create the smart album above and then sort by keyword. Those with both a face and unnamed face will have the keyword face and can be sorted to the top or bottom of the list.

Smart Albums and Search ignoring tags / keywords

Why is it that once images are imported into PE7, and if their keywords and tags are edited in an external editor (eg. Picasa, Photoshop), PE7 doesn't seem to recognize these new keywords/tags in Search or Smart Albums?!
The weird thing is, if I open/activate these newly edited files, I can see in thier properties that the new keywords/tags can be read by PE7, but these descriptions don't show up as matching results when we do a search box or smart albums.
What is going on?
On the other hand, Picasa will read, update and pick up any tags and keywords that have been entered in PS7, almost instantly. Why can't PE7 do this???

It's a design limitation of PSE. When you first import an image into PSE, it will read the metadata from the image's file (keyword tags, date/time, caption, notes, star rating) and store it in your catalog (the database where PSE stores all of its information about your images). Once the image is imported into your catalog, PSE will never read that metadata again, so if you change it with an external tool, PSE won't see those changes.
As you've observed, a number of other programs will track changes made to a file's metadata, including Windows Live Photo Gallery and Adobe Lightroom.

PSD files smart album...

Hello. I have lots of PSD files in lots of albums and rolls, and I want to put them all together in an album.. How I can do this? Using the ".psd" sufix doesn't work either with File Name or Version Name categories... Can anybody please help...?? Thank you

You should have no trouble doing this.
Just create a Smart Album at the root level of your Library (click the Library icon, then create the Smart Album to do this). Click the magnifying glass icon next to the Smart Album's name to open up the Smart Settings HUD for the album and type ".psd" in the search field.
Also important: Turn on the Ignore Stack Groupings checkbox at the bottom of the HUD. The insures that the Smart Album will look INSIDE your stacks and not just at the "picks" when looking for .psd files.
The result should be a Smart Album in which all your PSD files are automatically shown. I just tried it on my system and it worked perfectly.
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Smart Album in Elements 9

I'm attempting to make an online album from the Organizer to photoshop.com (now adobe revel). In organizer, rated pictures with stars to make a smart album as a way of selecting from over 200 pictures of a UK trip. But the share to photoshop.com is grayed out.
What is the best way to choose about 40 pictures to make an album to share on line?
Thanks

Revel is not photoshop.com and PSE (except for PSE 11) knows nothing about it. You can't just use the photoshop.com parts of PSE and go to revel instead. You will need to do this outside PSE entirely.
Here are the FAQs on the move to revel:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/ps.com_sharing_and_storage
and some basic info about using revel:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/revel

How to arrange photos in a smart album

I have a hundred or so pics put into the library. I then created smart albums based on keywords but the pics are out of order and need to be arranged. It won't let me. It will be difficult to just go into the library and do it since I wwill be looking at pics from all categories. Suggestions? Thanks,

You can change the order with the different View options, but you can't manually arrange items in a Smart Album. Select all photos in the smart album and copy them into a regular album, where you can manually rearrange them.

A single photo in Aperture smart album shows multiple times on Apple TV2.

Sometimes a random photo in my Aperture smart albums displays on my ATV2 multiple times..can I fix this? For example, currently a single picture shows up on the Apple TV in the photos taken "in the past week" smart album 124 times, and the same picture shows up in the "in the past month" smart album 15 times.
When I double check the picture in the original smart album on the computer, it appears correctly, i.e. only one time.
Suggestions?

I'm having the same problem. I deleted all the photos in the photostream then tried to drag a couple new ones in to see if they'd synch. Nothing is happening. I recently installed aperture (have about 125 gb in the library). If anyone has an idea what to do, i'm open to try something.

Is there a way to burn multiple smart albums to DVD?

I just finished shooting a wedding. I have made a number of smart albums for Reception, Dance, Ceremony, etc...
Now I would like to burn all of these albums onto one DVD to send to the client. But I would like each album to be in its own folder on the DVD. I could go the long way and export each album into a folder on the desktop and then put them all in a burn folder.
Is there a more automated way of doing this, such as a plugin maybe? After a little searching I found BurnToDisc from Blue Room software but it looks like you can only select one album at a time to burn to DVD. I would like to be able to select all 8 or 9 albums and have them burned in one operation.
Thank you for any help
Bo

As I wrote:
There's only one problem, I'm not sure if this will work for smart albums in folders.
so unfortunately I was right. Smart Albums behave differently then regular Albums one of the biggest differences is the way Folders and Smart Albums interact.
With a regular album if it is in a folder clicking on the folder shows the images in the album. With smart albums this doesn't happen, the folder doesn't show the images in the smart albums it contains.
A few work arounds off the top of my head:
convert the smart albums into regular albums. With the smart album selected and in browser mode click on the magnifying glass icon at the top right to open the browser filter HUD. At the bottom of the filter HUD is a button New Album with Current Images click it and a regular album with the images from the smart album will be created. Once you've done this to the smart albums the procedure I wrote should work.
You could manually create the folders in the Finder and export each smart album individually to the corresponding folder you created.
Let us know if either of those work for you,
regards

How do I use Smart Albums to show photo's from two different iphone 5 devices so all photos are not together?

Hi,
My wife and I both have the iphone 5.
I backup all our photos onto the one iphoto but she wants to be able to now see the photos she took on her iphone 5 only and not mine.
I've tried using smart albums but there is no option to pick between two of the same devices.. Is there any way I can just her iphone 5 pics to show up and ignore mine?
Thanks

Have a look here...
http://macmost.com/using-iphoto-albums-and-smart-albums-2.html

Is there a way to display the number of pictures or photos in a smart album

when I look at my project view on the left, all of the projects or folders show the number of photos that are in them at a glance. However, on my smart albums, it just shows the looking glass which you can click on to edit the properties. Is there any way for aperture to show the number of photos in a smart album without having to open the smart album and count? Thanks!

No. But when you click on them, the number of images they contain will be at the bottom of the Browser screen and in Split View just above the bar separating the Viewer from the thumbnails.

IPhoto 8.1.2 can you create a smart album with only one face

I'm using iPhoto 8.1.2 and have about 23k photos in the library. I have identified 32 key faces, and would now like to create some smart albums that contain only the face or faces that I want and to exclude all the others. S for example a smart album that has only my son.
I tried using the doesn't contain this face, but you can only have around 10 filters/critiria in a smart album.
any suggestions are appriciated

You can't really, because you can't exclude enough of the faces.
I would keyword the preferred images as well, so finding the face and the keyword would find the pics of the person alone.
Regards
TD

PSE 9 Organiser - Smart albums & album categories

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