PSE 9 Smart Album freeze!

Why does my Elements 9 freeze when I atempt to create a smart album (operating under OSX Lion)?

Normally found under nature. Try adjusting the drop down and fly out menus if necessary.

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PSE 9 Organiser - Smart albums & album categories

Is it posible to move Smart Albums into an Album Category, as the drag and drop is not working for me. I can creat normal Albums and drag them in to an Album Category but Smart Albums do not appear to allow themselves to be moved from the highest level where they are created?

Smart albums are smart for two reasons. The first one is that with a database system like the Organizer, storing a query takes so much less disk space and avoids cumbersome tables and indexes...
The second one, as I stated, is that the definition of criteria instead the listing of individual files will work even if you add files or delete them. This may be considered an advantage... or a disadvantage if you want to 'freeze' the result of the query. That's why I think the only simple way the software could do this would be to duplicate the result in a normal album (or collection). I do not see any reason it could not be done automatically, but the user would have to be aware of this change in some way. I am convinced that would entail much confusion for many users.

Smart albums in PSE 11

In the French version of Photoshop Elements 11 I cannot find the old Smart Album feature (album dynamique) ? Is it gone ? Can anyone confirm?

Use the Organizer menu:
Find >> By Details (Metadata)

Smart Albums and Search ignoring tags / keywords

Why is it that once images are imported into PE7, and if their keywords and tags are edited in an external editor (eg. Picasa, Photoshop), PE7 doesn't seem to recognize these new keywords/tags in Search or Smart Albums?!
The weird thing is, if I open/activate these newly edited files, I can see in thier properties that the new keywords/tags can be read by PE7, but these descriptions don't show up as matching results when we do a search box or smart albums.
What is going on?
On the other hand, Picasa will read, update and pick up any tags and keywords that have been entered in PS7, almost instantly. Why can't PE7 do this???

It's a design limitation of PSE. When you first import an image into PSE, it will read the metadata from the image's file (keyword tags, date/time, caption, notes, star rating) and store it in your catalog (the database where PSE stores all of its information about your images). Once the image is imported into your catalog, PSE will never read that metadata again, so if you change it with an external tool, PSE won't see those changes.
As you've observed, a number of other programs will track changes made to a file's metadata, including Windows Live Photo Gallery and Adobe Lightroom.

Smart Album in Elements 9

I'm attempting to make an online album from the Organizer to photoshop.com (now adobe revel). In organizer, rated pictures with stars to make a smart album as a way of selecting from over 200 pictures of a UK trip. But the share to photoshop.com is grayed out.
What is the best way to choose about 40 pictures to make an album to share on line?
Thanks

Revel is not photoshop.com and PSE (except for PSE 11) knows nothing about it. You can't just use the photoshop.com parts of PSE and go to revel instead. You will need to do this outside PSE entirely.
Here are the FAQs on the move to revel:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/ps.com_sharing_and_storage
and some basic info about using revel:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/revel

A single photo in Aperture smart album shows multiple times on Apple TV2.

Sometimes a random photo in my Aperture smart albums displays on my ATV2 multiple times..can I fix this? For example, currently a single picture shows up on the Apple TV in the photos taken "in the past week" smart album 124 times, and the same picture shows up in the "in the past month" smart album 15 times.
When I double check the picture in the original smart album on the computer, it appears correctly, i.e. only one time.
Suggestions?

I'm having the same problem. I deleted all the photos in the photostream then tried to drag a couple new ones in to see if they'd synch. Nothing is happening. I recently installed aperture (have about 125 gb in the library). If anyone has an idea what to do, i'm open to try something.

Is there a way to burn multiple smart albums to DVD?

I just finished shooting a wedding. I have made a number of smart albums for Reception, Dance, Ceremony, etc...
Now I would like to burn all of these albums onto one DVD to send to the client. But I would like each album to be in its own folder on the DVD. I could go the long way and export each album into a folder on the desktop and then put them all in a burn folder.
Is there a more automated way of doing this, such as a plugin maybe? After a little searching I found BurnToDisc from Blue Room software but it looks like you can only select one album at a time to burn to DVD. I would like to be able to select all 8 or 9 albums and have them burned in one operation.
Thank you for any help
Bo

As I wrote:
There's only one problem, I'm not sure if this will work for smart albums in folders.
so unfortunately I was right. Smart Albums behave differently then regular Albums one of the biggest differences is the way Folders and Smart Albums interact.
With a regular album if it is in a folder clicking on the folder shows the images in the album. With smart albums this doesn't happen, the folder doesn't show the images in the smart albums it contains.
A few work arounds off the top of my head:
convert the smart albums into regular albums. With the smart album selected and in browser mode click on the magnifying glass icon at the top right to open the browser filter HUD. At the bottom of the filter HUD is a button New Album with Current Images click it and a regular album with the images from the smart album will be created. Once you've done this to the smart albums the procedure I wrote should work.
You could manually create the folders in the Finder and export each smart album individually to the corresponding folder you created.
Let us know if either of those work for you,
regards

How do I use Smart Albums to show photo's from two different iphone 5 devices so all photos are not together?

Hi,
My wife and I both have the iphone 5.
I backup all our photos onto the one iphoto but she wants to be able to now see the photos she took on her iphone 5 only and not mine.
I've tried using smart albums but there is no option to pick between two of the same devices.. Is there any way I can just her iphone 5 pics to show up and ignore mine?
Thanks

Have a look here...
http://macmost.com/using-iphoto-albums-and-smart-albums-2.html

Is there a way to display the number of pictures or photos in a smart album

when I look at my project view on the left, all of the projects or folders show the number of photos that are in them at a glance. However, on my smart albums, it just shows the looking glass which you can click on to edit the properties. Is there any way for aperture to show the number of photos in a smart album without having to open the smart album and count? Thanks!

No. But when you click on them, the number of images they contain will be at the bottom of the Browser screen and in Split View just above the bar separating the Viewer from the thumbnails.

IPhoto 8.1.2 can you create a smart album with only one face

I'm using iPhoto 8.1.2 and have about 23k photos in the library. I have identified 32 key faces, and would now like to create some smart albums that contain only the face or faces that I want and to exclude all the others. S for example a smart album that has only my son.
I tried using the doesn't contain this face, but you can only have around 10 filters/critiria in a smart album.
any suggestions are appriciated

You can't really, because you can't exclude enough of the faces.
I would keyword the preferred images as well, so finding the face and the keyword would find the pics of the person alone.
Regards
TD

Whats the difference between and Album and a Smart Album

OK, just upgraded.... So, whats the difference between an Album and a Smart Album?
Also, I like to organise my stuff, so if I create a folder for each year, and then a project within that year, why is it that the photos are always in both - and then again if I chose to create an album specific to a project, they are there again.
So it might look:
          Folder (2012 Equine Photography)
               Project - Specific Events
                    Album - Big Barn Dressage May
Does this mean the individual photo is stored 3 times and using 3 times the space?
Thanks guys!

Mrsthebraggster wrote:
So it might look:
          Folder (2012 Equine Photography)
               Project - Specific Events
                    Album - Big Barn Dressage May
Does this mean the individual photo is stored 3 times and using 3 times the space?
No. Conceptually the Master only lives lives in the single (time based) Project you import it into. Albums are just collections of pointers that point to images in various Projects.
"Big Barn Dressage May" could be a Project, but only if it is only one day and a limited number of image files; otherwise an Album. "2012 Equine Photography" should be an album or a Folder of Albums. "Specific Events" could be an Album or a Folder of Albums.
A Project should not be used as a Folder.
From an earlier post of mine:
Folders are indeed flexible organizational tools but IMO often overused. Folders can effectively hide contents from view and therefore require users to remember how folders are nested and what is inside them. Folders were the only way to deal with single-original film, but are IMO limiting to image database thinking.
The way I look at it conceptually:
Aperture is a database (DB), and each image file lives in one Project.
Albums are just collections of Pointers that point to individual image files living in one or more Projects. Since they just contain pointers, albums can be created or deleted at will without affecting image files. Very powerful. And Albums of pointers take up almost zero space, so they are fast and do not make the Library size grow.
Keywords can be applied to every image separately or in batches. Keywords are hugely powerful and largely obviate the need for folders. Not that we should never use folders, just that we should use folders only when useful organizationally - - after first determining that using keywords and albums is not a better approach.
As one example imagine the keyword "flowers." Every image of a 100,000 images Library that has some flowers in it has the keyword flowers. Then say we want to put flowers in an ad, or as background for a show of some kind, or to print pix for a party, or even just to look for an image for some other reason. We can find every flower image in a 100k-image database in 2 seconds, and in another few seconds create an Album called "Flowers" that points to all of those individual images.
Similarly all family pix can have a keyword "family" and all work pix can have a key word "work." Each individual pic may have any number of keywords. Such pic characteristics (work, family, flowers, etc.) should not be organized via folders.
So by using keywords and albums we can have instant access to every image everywhere, very cool. And keywords and albums essentially take up no space in the database.
Another approach is to use a folder "Family" for family pix, a folder "Flowers" for flowers pix and another folder "Work" for work pix. IMO such folders usage is a very poor approach to using an images database (probably stemming from old paper or film work practices). Note that one cannot put an image with family in a field of flowers at a work picnic in all three folders; but it is instant with keywords.
HTH
-Allen

I have uploaded photos from the past and they are grouped by dates. How do I seperate those photos into their own folder/album so that I can easily identify the contents. Also, what is the difference between Album, Smart Album and folders?

I have uploaded photos from the past and they are automatically arranged by date. As a result, there are many events grouped into one library/event/folder/album (not sure of the proper terminology) I'd like to separate them into folders/albums/smart albums so that I can easily identify the contents. How do I do that and do I delete the originals?

It would be good to take the tutorials and learn iPhoto - these are for the previous version but the concepts are the same and much of the command is the same - and it would be a worthwhile investment of time to take the iphoto tutorials - http://www.apple.com/findouthow/photos/ - they are very helpful and will save you a lot of time and frustration. - also the tutorials in iPhoto Help will be helpful - while iPhoto is easy and intuitive it does have a learning curve and it will save you time and pain if you spend a few minutes learning the basics
as to organization - events are generally time based and are the basic automatic organization - you can merge and split them to make them work better for you but they are not a good way to do detailed organization - best to leave them time based
albums are logical things that contain photos and are just pointers to the photo in the event so they take no extra space and all changes to a photo anywhere are reflected everywhere
Smart albums are the same except they are automatically filled based on the criteria you set when you create them
Folders are containers that you create and a folder can contain albums, smart albums or other folders so they are a big help in organization - like a vacation folder that holds folders for France, USA, China with each of thos folders holding albums of photos from the country
LN

How do you create a smart album so that you can look at and edit slide show fashion instead of one at a time?

Is the Apple program always this convoluted every time something new is rolled out to roll over someone?

Sorry but I have no idea what you're asking. What s "look and edit slide show fashion"? Where does a Smart Album fit into that? You know you can move from shot to shot using the arrow keys, right?

Smart Albums not Refreshsing

Hi,
I've set up Smart Albums based on whether photos in a project have particular keywords i.e. the album shows only photos that do not contain either the keyword "Artwork 1" or the keyword "Artwork 2". When I choose an image and apply the keyword "Artwork 1" with one of the keyword buttons, the photo disappears from the Smart Album, exactly as expected
However if I select several photos, and do the same thing, all the selected photos get the keyword (you can see this from the metadata badge which appears after applying the keyword, and also in the metadata inspector). However only the "primary" disappears. I put primary in quotes because I don't have primary only switched on, but the one with the slightly thicker border is the only way that disappears. The others stay in the Smart Album even though they no longer satisfy the criteria for selection in that album.
The only way I've found to make Aperture refresh the contents of the album is to quit out, and then relaunch. When I come back in the other photos with the keyword in them disappear.
Does anyone else have this issue where Smart Albums do not always refresh automatically? Is there a better way to force a refresh than quitting out?
Thanks in advance
David

Hi Allan,
I don't think so. There are 309 images in the project. I shot maybe 15 new ones last night which appeared instantly in the Smart Album because they didn't have "Artwork 1" or "Artwork 2" keywords applied. Then I selected 3 images, applied the keyword, so it only had to cope with 3 changes.
I don't think of that as excessive numbers, especially since out of the 15 images, 14 disappeared instantly when the keyword was applied, but 1 didn't
David

Aperture ... Bug .... timezones and smart albums

Hello everyone,
i've just jumped into the mac world a week ago, just bought my first macbook ! Yeah !
I decided to give Aperture a try, and given i've played with it now for 2 days, if this bug I found is really there, NO WAY am I going to pay for such software !
I've been using Picasa on PC for the past couple years now.
Its handling my photo library extremely well: over 50gb of photos, 10 years worth of photos.
So after looking at all the Aperture videos on the apple site, I decided to give it a try to replace my picasa, since there is no picasa for my new mac.
The bug I found (and I'm a newbie !, 2 days of playing, struggling to import my pictures, and bam ... bug .... hummmm).
I tried importing only 1 folder in my library.
I'm french and this summer, went to USA for holiday. Western deserts and all.
So, I took my folder:
2008 08 09 - USA Grand West
And tried importing it.
It contains around 100 photos of the 1st 3 days of the trip.
My camera was set to French time, so at import I appreciated the "Change time thingy" and set it to Los Angeles time.
Did the import in a new project.
Great.
All pictures in the project. Exif Date updated to los angeles time. GREAT !
Now.
I want to have them show up on a day to day basis.
So, I created smart albums giving the date I wanted.
August 9 2008, August 10 2008 and August 11 2008.
It DOES NOT WORK ! BUGGGGGGGG
photos taken on the 3rd day, having correct EXIF date metadata, show 11/08/2008 for the date (correct), however they are not shown in the August 11 2008 album !
They are shown in the August 12 2008 album !
Reason !
The smart album is using the wrond date. The French one.
Since there is 11 hours difference.
Some late August 11 (Los Angeles time) pictures are pushed to August 12 (early morning French time).
Am I the only one with this bug ?
The only fix I found for now that works, is adding 3 rules to the smart albums:
- exif: day of the month = 11
- exif: month of the yar = 08
- exif: year = 2008
That works.
However there is NO WAY, i'm setting up 50gb worth of smart albums having to apply 3 specific rules to compensate for a bugged out calendar rule that does not work.
Any ideas ? fixes ?
Thanks
Regards
Tim

Hum, i'm not sure I understand what is going on, or what you are describing.
you say: "... Aperture is correct in it's assertion the image was taken on 12th"
I dont understand.
When i've done the import, and look at that pictures metadata, the date/time is corrected. It shows up as 15:42 20080811 (youre writting).
So if the metadata is correct, I really dont understand how the computers time and timezone has any effect on the smart albums ... could you explain ?
Unless what you are suggesting, is that the smart album date is applied to the computers time zone, and thus when searching for the files, it automatically does a conversion of the time of the picture to fit the computers timezone => thus my 15:42 20080811 set to Los Angeles time zone, is researched using a French timezone and thus found on 00:42 20080812 ?
Wow, if so, this would be a stretch !
And if this is the answer, I do not understand the "feature" to import using a different time zone, and not be able to search according to it ?
There is effectively no point?
In respect to the workaround you describe. Its effectively what I did, I sorted using 3 criterias: exif day of the month = 11, month of the year = 08, year = 2008. And for some reason that works !
Would there be another workaround? Instead of using the TimeZone panel, import them untouched, and doing a batch Time change on the pictures once imported and leaving them at the same Paris timezone, but compensating for 9 hours, effectively, bringing them to 15:42 Paris time, instead of Los Angeles time ?
If my memory is correct when having played with this, the batch time modification, did not compensate the days: Effectively, clicking 9 times on the down arrow when showing 00:42 12th did not change the 12th into an 11th ...

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