PSE Organizer 9 Unstable adding captions

I have Adobe Photoshop Elements & Premiere Elements 9 and since installing it approximately 12 months ago I have had instability problems with the Elements 9 Organizer, particularly whilst I am attempting to add captions. A “Change Caption” drop down box appears and the organizer will either run on i.e. scroll to the end of the catalogue or freeze. I am using Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit and since installing PSE9 etc I have
Upgraded to 4 GB RAM
installed a larger HDD on which I have set up 6144 MB of virtual memory.
Cleaned and defragged HDD
Updated all drivers
Optimized, Repaired and Re-indexed Catalog
Reinstalled PSE and PRE
Temporarily disabled WD Backup and Norton Antivirus.
I have approximately 17,000 photos in the catalogue and once the Organizer becomes unstable, there is a CPU usage caused by the Organizer. I have considered upgrading to PSE 10, however I am reluctant as it doesn’t provide any further functions that I already have and I will probably be left with the same problem.
Any suggestions appreciated.

Phone numbers:
http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/
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http://www.adobe.com/support/photoshop-elements/supportinfo/
Ken

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