Pse12 catalog impossible

Unter Windows8.1 ist es mir seit Neuestem nicht möglich, einen PSE12-Katalog zu sichern (weder als vollständige Sicherung noch inkrementell) - was bislang möglich war, auch keinen gerade neu erzeugten Katalog mit nur 1 Element. Das geht bis zur Eingabe des Backup-Pfades, dann erscheint ein leeres kleines Fenster und kurz darauf die Fehlermeldung 'Schreiben nicht möglich auf C:\ProgramData\Adobe\ElementsOrganizer\Catalogs\"Katalogname"\catalog.pse12db'. In den letzten Tagen hatte ich wiederholt Programmabbrüche "Photoshop elements muss beendet werden".
Gibt es da einen Zusammenhang und weiß jemand Abhilfe?
Diese Frage habe ich bereits versehentlich in der 'Creative Suites'-Community gestellt.

Hi,
Which operating system are you running on?
In the show all sub folders view, does the folder in question have the picture icon or a plain folder icon against it?
I suggest that you use windows explorer or finder to look at that folder and note one of the file names. Then go to the organizer and ensure that Media is selected at the top and that all media is showing (no All Media button). Now go to the search box (top right) and type in part of the file name noted before.
That will show you if the file already exists in the catalog.
If it doesn't exist, what type of file is it?
Brian

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LinusF wrote:
I "know" about the Program Data ....catalogs/[my catalog] location. Is there any file necessary to the catalog which is NOT there?
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dj_paige a écrit:
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dj_paige a écrit:
...But we can also wait and see report from other users.
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dj_paige a écrit:
...But we can also wait and see report from other users.
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