PSE5 To Bridge

My computer crashed and I did not have a catalog backup. I used Elements 5 organizer and CS3 is my editor. Wish I had known I could transfer all of my catalog to Bridge before the crash.
Is there a way I can retrieve my catalog from my old hard drive which I have saved on my new computer.
There are many PSE5 folders called catalog. All of my thousands of photographs were tagged but I cant open any of the catalog folders in PSE5 which I have installed on my new computer.
All assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mairi

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Steve
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Maureen,
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Yes I have seen that option of writing info to the image metadata. However I don't think it allows you to maintain version stacks and other stacks. Those are also huge to me. I have a similar number of images in a catalog.
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