PSE6 Catalog/Organizer

I have noticed that when I backup the organizer it appears that I get a copy of every photo I have in My Pictures file folders but not in file folders, just random order. Is this normal and does this mean I have double the photos? Can I delete the random photos or are they part of the back-up? Don't want to delete them if their necessary.

Don't mess!
PSE lets you make a full-back up.
It then lets you make incremental back-ups.
It’s best to use an external hard drive as PSE will duplicate every image file.
However it’s simple to restore if you experience a complete crash or purchase a new PC.

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What is the best way to migrate PSE6 Catalog (Wxp) to new computer W7, PSE11?

What is the best way to migrate PSE6 Catalog (Wxp) to new computer W7, PSE11? Previous PSE6 recovery (Wxp) after a failed HD resulted in pictures showing but not opening due to connection issues. Had to restore pictures from backup and rebuild the catalog and albums. Found a third party fix afterwards that has no support past PSE8. Trying to make this migration to PSE11 painless.

William47 wrote:
What is the best way to migrate PSE6 Catalog (Wxp) to new computer W7, PSE11? Previous PSE6 recovery (Wxp) after a failed HD resulted in pictures showing but not opening due to connection issues. Had to restore pictures from backup and rebuild the catalog and albums. Found a third party fix afterwards that has no support past PSE8. Trying to make this migration to PSE11 painless.
That's a very common and classical situation :
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.html
Just make sure that your backup to the external drive is ok : you should find a 'backup.tly' file in the folder.
Use the PSE11 organizer to restore from the PSE7 backup : the first step restores all your media files, the second automatically does a catalog conversion to the PSE11 format.
Read the note in the above link about restoring from XP to ulterior Win OS. You can also restore to a 'custom' location. For instance in a 'C:\My new library' folder. Make sure that master folder is accessible to all users, and if you want, you can move the catalog (database) itself from that location to the default location : catalog manager, option to move catalogs to location accessible to all users.

Help in restoring PSE6 catalog to PSE9

My PC computer hard drive crashed. I do backup, but I had not backed up my PSE6 catalog for about 3-4 months. I do have all my photos backed up though. I'm going to restore the catalog to a new PC running Win 7 so I upgraded to PSE9 since I understand PSE6 doesn't work with Win7.
Here is my plan.
(1) copy all my photos folders to the new computer. I organize my folders by year and date.
(2) install PSE9 and restore the PSE6 catalog to Organizer in the new computer.
(3) import the additional photos taken after the last catalog backup into the PSE9 Organizer and tag all of them.
(4) if all looks right I would backup the new catalog.
Does this make sense?? I'm just concerned that I am forgetting something.
Comments will be appreciated.
Barbara

I am trying to do a similar conversion. I have my PSE6 backup and I recently installed PSE9 on a new computer running Windows 7. I am unable to restore. The error message says "invalid backup". The backup files are Backup.tly and catalog.buc. I do not have PSE6 anymore; all was lost with a hard disc failure. I have all my pictures backed up with the file structure intact. And I can not locate my PSE6 install files. If I could obtain those files, should I pursue installing PSE6; restoring to PSE6, then converting to PSE9?

PSE6.0 organizer import CR2 files results in 'no preview'

When I import Canon CR2 files from my camera using the PSE Organizer (Windows "import with PSE6") I often get no RAW preview/thumbnails; a thumbnail is created for some of the imported RAW pictures but most of them not. When I have opened the picture (camera raw 5.3 start by double click, and close) in most cases a thumbnail is created and displayed. This shouldn't be necessary, I suppose ????
Does someone know this bug and how to fix it?

So, now I have to buy PSE 7? Isn't there a cheap(er) upgrade possibility? After all, it is a bug in PSE6. PSE7 costs almost as much as a 'new' / first install version, isn't it.
I would love to have the latest version, mostly not for the new features but mainly for bug fixes and/or performance enhancements.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:30:40 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: PSE6.0 organizer import CR2 files results in 'no preview'
The bug was fixed in PSE 7 (one of the few PSE 6 bugs that were).
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Photoshop Elements Catalog / organizer is very slow to respond

I have 65,000 photos in catalog / organizer. I note the thumb.5.cache file is 1,165,292 KB. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Jonathan

JonathanHarp wrote:
I have 65,000 photos in catalog / organizer. I note the thumb.5.cache file is 1,165,292 KB. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Jonathan
For my catalog of 48,000 items, the thumb.5.cache is 1,217,976 KB... and I have no speed problem. So that seems normal.
Are you having speed problems ? Which PSE version ?
What is indicated when you look at the menu Help / System info ?
Do you use face detection, autoanalysis ?
Elements Organizer 11.0.0.0
Version principale : 11.0 (20120830.r.32025)
Version de langue : 11.0 (20120830.r.32025)
Catalogue en cours :
Nom du catalogue : Restaur 05 08 2013
Emplacement du catalogue : C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\Restaur 05 08 2013\
Taille du catalogue : 241,9 Mo
Taille du cache du catalogue : 1,6 Go
Système :
Nom du système d'exploitation : Windows 7
Version du système d'exploitation : 6.1 Service Pack 1
Architecture du système : Intel processeur Famille : 6 Modèle : 10 Niveau : 9 avec MMX, Entier SSE, FP SSE
Mémoire intégrée : 7,9 Go
Mémoire disponible : 3,6 Go

PSE8: Can't import a PSE6-Catalog

Hi forum,
I just installed Windows 7 Home Premium on my notebook. It was a clean install - no upgrade!
I installed the trial version of PSE8 - not problems.
Now I started PSE8 and would like to import my PSE6 catalog from an external hard disk. The import works fine - all photos have been restored.
But now the problem: PSE8 was unable to upgrade the catalog! PSE8 tried to upgrade the catalog, but stooped with an error message.
The PSE6 catalog is ok and has no problems - I have checked that twice.
My question now: How can I get PSE8 to import and upgrade my PSE6 catalog?
Regards,
Oliver

OK - here some more information:
1. after checking the PSE6 catalog in a WinXP virtual machine I decided to install PSE8 to that virtual machine and try to restore again. With WinXP PSE8 was able to restore and to convert the PSE6 catalog. Why can PSE8 do this under WinXP without errors and can not do this under Win7 (clean install) ???
2. I used the PSE8 in my virtual machine now to write a new backup of the converted catalog to my external harddrive. PSE8 managed to get this done.
3. Now I switched back to Win7 (with is my host operation system on my norebook) and started PSE8. Again I started a restore operation, but now I want PSE8 to restore the PSE8 catalog I have created in my virtual machine. PSE8 was able to restore that catalog, but did not managed to recreate the file structure of my pictures. I have save my pictures in a folder structure, but PSE8 was not able to recreate that folder structre. Instead PSE8 placed all folders flat in the root folder where wanted PSE8 to restore my pictures. The folder structure is lost - although I told PSE8 to recreate the folder structure.
4. I now try to manually restore the folder structure an let PSE8 rebuild its database. Hope this way I will get back my catalog and the folder structure of my pictures.
Let me say this: I was a great fan of photoshop elements. I worked with version 3, 4 and 6 without any problems. Everytime I started an upgrade this upgrade was easy and error-free. In my opinion PSE was a very reliable piece of software.
With PSE8 my mind changed. PSE8 is not able to restore an error-free PSE6 catalog. That's very poor and I think Adobe needs to rework PSE8.
Regards,
Oliver

How to import PSE6 catalog in PSE9

I'm having the following problem and could use some help.
I'm trying to get my new Windows-7 PC up and running with PSE9.
I copied all the images from the old PC, I also copied the catalog files, but PSE9 doesn't seem to have an "open PSE6 catalog"-option.
How can I get the information from my PSE6 catalog up and running in PSE9?
thanx in advance!
Hans

Thanx for the reply.
I bought the dutch version of the software and I had a little trouble "translating" the dutch buttons into english :-)
At this time the thumbnails are being generated ...

Using PSE catalog/organizer with CS5

I have been using PSE 7 for a while and have just transitioned to Photoshop CS5.
I would like to use the catalog from PSE for organizing photos, and PS CS5 for editing.
In the PSE preferences I have tried to notify PSE that I want to use PS CS5 as the supplementary editor. All I get is a message that says I do not need to choose PS as the other editor as PSE already supports using PS from the edit menu and edit toolbar (which I can`t see how that would happen).
It is my guess that PSE catalog/organizer and PS CS5 do not interact, and that I can use both but independently.
Is my guess correct?

Thanks, MTSTUNER. I now see that option in PSE Edit menu. However, when I select it there is a message that Thumbnails are being updated, and a copy of the photo is made in the organizer. PS does not launch, and if I launch PS first, the photo still does does not appear in PS.

Move PSE6 catalog from XP to new computer Windows 7

Help! I have a new computer with Windows 7 installed. The store I purchased it from did a data transfer for me so the "My Pictures" folder was moved into the new computer. I just downloaded the PSE6 program again as programs were not moved.
Now what do I do?? I have an External Hard Drive connected to the old computer and had made a full and 3 incremental backups through PSE6. (I have 127gb of photos as shoot in raw).
I have read some info on this site so am confused..... should I delete the "My Pictures" (all the photos) from the new computer first?
I have an External hard drive connected to the old computer. Should I do a FULL backup and send it to that External HD then plug that into the new computer and download from that?
Would appreciate your help (in simple precise terms - not very computer literate! ) as I don't want to lose my Catalog as it has a lot of collections.
Thank you!

First make sure you've got a precise record of what your key is and who it's registered to. (I usually just print out a screenshot of the existing "Register" tab in my QuickTime preferences.)
Now on the old PC, go into your QuickTime control panel. In the "Register" tab, clear the key from the QuickTime Registration section and click OK.
Now on the new PC, reenter those details in the "Register" tab and click OK.

PSE6 Catalog suddenly full of duplicates

I recently downloaded PSE7 trial version to see how it works with Vista 64 and today I opened PSE6 and went into my catalog and noticed that a lot of my files now have duplicates (file name with a -1 at the end). Any idea how this happened and how to clean up this mess??
Tim

Tim,
Regarding the duplicates, if you look at their folder in Windows Explorer, is there both a pic.jpg and pic-1.jpg in the same folder?
Most likely, you somehow gave a command in PSE 6 or PSE 7 that duplicated the photos; for example, maybe you invoked File > Export on the photos and exported them into the same folder, in which case PSE will add "-1" to the duplicate names. (There are other commands that would probably do something similar.) Then if you have File > Watch Folders enabled, PSE 6 automatically imported those duplicates.
Here's a recipe for finding and removing the duplicates:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshopelements-6-7-faq.htm#_Find_and_delete

OBIEE web catalog organization (or lack thereof...)

Hi, I'm trying to come up with a "best practices" scheme to allow organizing our "shared" web catalog folders and directory structure. Our particulars are:
- We need to have one group of dashboards / reports that are "enterprise approved"
- we need to have another set of areas available for various business units to do their own work in, but not be available as "enterprise approved", just for business area use
- need to cover analyses, dashboards, filters, prompts, etc.
- would like to keep dashboard related items organized together if possible
- would like to keep prompted analyses separate from analyses used in dashboards if necessary
- power users will all have their own "personal" folders, I'm not worried about those (but if hints on how to arrange to make migration to either the shared "business unit" or shared "enterprise approved" folders, that would be great)
- I'd like dashboards to show up properly, which seems to imply they need to be just one level under the main "Shared" directory
Does anyone have a best practices way of organizing the web catalog to make the above easy to accomplish?
Thanks,
Scott

Hi
Did anyone help you out? I am also looking for a list of best practices or blogs that contain that type of information.
Thanks

How to move catalog in PSE6 / work from external drive?

Hi, I've just moved my PSE6 catalog to an external hard drive to free up PC memory / improve performance. I've tried a LaCie 2-big 1Tb drive (RAID1) connected via ethernet to my PC with a seperate drive to back that up connected via USB. Moving the catalog's worked fine and it has kept all my keywords too etc Ok too. However, I now have 2 issues:
1) Many of the raw files (.CR2) are now not showing properly in the organiser and instead show as a grey box with zigzag line through it. These files open up ok in editor, so they are still there and catalog abviously still knows how to find them. This doesn't seem to have affected all raw files strangely, only recent ones. PSD files are unaffectedand all show up fine. I've tried changing/updating adobe camera raw several times but hasn't helped.
2) PSE doesn't work as fast as I'd hoped having moved images to an external drive - eg takes quite a while refreshing thumbnails and opening images to edit etc. Is this just something you can't avoid when working off files located on external drives? does anyone have any solutions? I'm moving into commercial phiotography and can eaily take 10-20gb of RAW files every shoot, so couldn't carry on saving to my C drive!
Comments/ideas appreciated!

A couple of comments here. First, moving stuff to an external hard drive does not free up PC memory. If you thought that would happen, you are mistaken.
Raw files not appearing properly in the Organizer is probably a PSE6 bug; see http://www.adobe.com/go/kb403728
I think the speed problems you are noticing might be due to having the catalog file(s) on a networked drive; please read: http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Storing_the_catalog

Photoshop Elements 11 Organizer failed during folder / file move

I have a large image collection, in excess of 40,000. I'm running on a PC with Windows 7 and all updates installed. I just purchased PSE 11 to replace PSE 10. After installing PSE 11 I converted my catalog. That seemed to go OK. At that point I discovered that my C: drive was almost full so I decided to move my image collection from its C: drive location to an external hard drive that had sufficient capacity. In order to ensure the integrity of the catalog I decided that I should use the PSE 11 Organizer to move the files. This would allow the Organizer to update the location information for the files as it moved them, although it was clear that this would take many hours to complete. So, using Organizer I did a "drag and drop" of my image collection's root file from the C: location to the external drive which happened to be the J: drive. Organizer appeared to be running properly so I left it to continue overnight. The next morning I discovered that only about 2/3 of the files had been moved. There was a very cryptic message that said the opertion could not be completed because of "...possibly unsupported files types, files with read only attributes.." etc. I did not write down the actual message and it did not tell me where in the transfer the failure occurred. After doing some detective work I discovered that many folders and files had been copied to the J: drive that were not appearing in the Organizer catalog and consequently were not being displayed. Some folders had only a portion of their files copied. Fortunately, the files were still visible and cataloged on the C: drive. I did look at my files on the C: drive and there were some that for what ever reason had read only attributes.
I don't have a good guess as to what was actually the root cause of the problem, but here's how I think the file movement should happen. The selected file, files, or folders should be copied to the specified destination. At that point they should be added to the catalog, then the files should be deleted from their original location and the catalog updated accordingly. If an original file is read only then it can't be deleted but the attempt to delete it should be reported as an inability to delete with no consequences imposed on the files that have been placed in their new location. The "problem" should not be promoted to the status of a serious or fatal error that causes only partial completion of the overall operation.

Bill Junk wrote:
I've seen a couple postings in the forum that related to catalog conversion failures and suggested that they could be avoided by running in administrative mode. When I did my conversion is was not in administrative mode and it's certainly possible that there were files with restrictive permission settings that screwed things up. It's also fairly likely that the catalog itself had some issues that were not detected or fixed by running a catalog repair.
That's something I had the opportunity to test today : after a fresh install of my second copy of PSE11 on another computer (Vista), I first restored without problem a PSE11 backup from the other computer (XP). Then I tried a restore for a catalog from a PSE6 version on the second computer. The conversion failed the first time and worked the second time when run as administrator. This time, I don't think there were file types problems, since that PSE6 catalog had been restored successfully on a PSE10 version some months ago. I really don't understand that 'administrator' problem, since all my files are situated in a second internal 1 Tb drive with full access for my account ?
I am not sure about the details of your case, but I understand you have restored exactly the same tree structure in a new J: drive. Your catalog is always accessible in its original location.
In that case it's possible to simply create a copy of your catalog (a simple copy of the folder containing the database catalog.pseXXdb - to be found in the help menu, system info). Then you need a sqlite database management tool (I use the add-on sqlite manager in Firefox) to simply edit a single record in a table containing the identification of all drives known to the catalog. You simply edit the letter and the serial number of the drive (DOS command VOL:).
I had a case where I had a catalog and all the media on an external drive. That external drive was assigned a different letter in different computers. Either I used the above solution, or I had to reassign drive letters in one of the computers.

Photoshop Elements 11 catalog conversion solution

The Photoshop Elements 11 Organizer failed to convert my Photoshop Elements 6 catalog until I ran the PSE11 Organizer under the built-in Windows 7 Administrator account. I did not find this solution mentioned during my efforts to solve this installation problem. It was not a suggestion I found in Adobe's help files dealing with catalog conversion. So here is a summary for others with this problem.
I installed Photoshop Elements 11 on my Dell XPS 9000 running Windows 7 Pro x64. I retained my PSE6 installation. I have nearly 20,000 cataloged images in my PSE6 catalog.
Problems began when the PSE11 Organizer failed to convert my PSE6 catalog to the new PSE11 format. The process seemed to run to completion, but then an error message said the conversion had failed. The suggestion was to repair and optimize the PSE6 catalog using PSE6, then try converting again. Conversion to PSE11 still failed. I spent a few hours searching for suggestions and solutions and tried each of them without success.
I then found one suggestion that the problem might involve permissions. The suggestion was to right click PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe in its installation folder (which on my computer is at at D:\Photo\Elements 11 Organizer) and run Organizer as an administrator. This also failed. However it did get me thinking about permissions.
Even though my personal account on my computer is an administrator account, I logged off my personal account and logged on to my computer's built-in Administrator account that comes with Windows 7. I don't think I've used that account for any other purpose since I set up this computer 3 years ago.
I then ran the PSE11 Elements Organizer using the Administrator account and the catalog conversion ran to completion and all seemed correct.
However, when I went to the folder where I kept my PSE6 catalog (G:\0-PSElementsCatalog\FamilyPhotos-6), the new PSE11 catalog was not there. Instead, PSE11 had put the converted catalog in the (absolutely awful) default location at C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\FamilyPhotos-6). Using the PSE11 Organizer, I renamed the catalog to G:\0-PSElementsCatalog\FamilyPhotos-11(ConvertedFrom6). I then used PSE11 Organizer to move the converted catalog to my preferred location on my G: drive.
All is now well.
Why did I have to use the built-in Administrator account to do the catalog conversion? What permissions does it have that my personal account (also an Administrator) does not have? Some years ago I encountered a similar problem that involved permissions on a registry key, not permissions on files or folders. Perhaps someone at Adobe can enlighten us.

One thing puzzles me:
RedClayFarmer wrote:
I then found one suggestion that the problem might involve permissions. The suggestion was to right click PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe in its installation folder (which on my computer is at at D:\Photo\Elements 11 Organizer) and run Organizer as an administrator. This also failed.
I don't understand why running the exe from the installation folder would have worked.
I would have simply tried to run that exe from its real location :
Sorry, I can't help you more about permissions...

PSE 11 Catalog not showing up in Catalog Manager

My latest battle with PSE11 is trying to access my catalog in PSE11 via the Catalog Manager but it doesn't show up in the list. The catalog is named My Catalog 2 is located at C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\My Catalog 2. It is the only catalog I use and is the one that opens up when I launch Organizer. But, for the life of me, I can't get it to show up in the Catalog Manager. The only catalog that shows up is the original catalog which is at a different location and was created when I installed PSE11 on my new computer (Thinkpad W530, Windows 8). I've tried the Custom Location option and browsing to the location, but still no dice. This catalog has thousands of pictures and was converted from my previous PSE6 catalog. How do I get the Catalog Manager to find my current active catalog? I need to do a repair to try and fix another problem I'm having.

This all really started with the migration from my ancient Inspiron 8600 Win XP computer to my new Thinkpad W530 Win 8 computer and at the same time upgrading from PSE6 to PSE11. In the process, I had to move all my pictures (1000s upon 1000s of them) to a different drive letter and main folder location than I was using on my old computer, although I kept the same subfolder structure. This led to all the pictures being reported as missing in PSE11. The reconnection function in PSE11 is not very good (IMO) at handling a situation like this. The way it works, it would take forever and a day for it to search and reconnect all those picture files. I think there was a third-party tool that worked on previous versions of PSE that would let you make mass changes to the file locations, but it doesn't work on the later versions of PSE.
Anyway, I started doing some manual reconnecting and came across a weird situation where a few files wouldn't reconnect saying the file already existed in the catalog which didnt make sense. So, I thought maybe an optimize/repair might fix the glitch. This then led me to the Connection Manager problem. I don't know, maybe all the unconnected files might be causing CM not to recognize the catalog which wouldn't make sense (to me).
Since this situation of having files change location is likely to arise again, I had started investigating perhaps putting together some sort custom reconnect function using a sqlite db tool as you mentioned. I was just hoping to get the files reconnected for now and move on to other things. But, things are seldom simple and straight forward anymore.
I did get My Catalog 2 back to my default at least. I manually deleted the TestCatalog folder and when I launched Organizer, it prompted for a new catalog via CM. But, CM of couse didn't list My Catalog 2. So, I manually launched the catalog.pse11db file via file explorer and Organizer then made it my default catalog again.

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