PSE7/ACR 5.6 issue with Canon 7D raw images too dark - solution?

Whenever shooting both jpeg and raw images with my Canon 7D and uploading to PSE7 (where I use ACR 5.6 to convert raw) the raw thumbnails are a stop darker than the jpegs. When converting a raw 7D image, the exposure needs to be increased by a stop (this needs to be done whether or not jpegs are also shot). This phenomena does not occur with my Canon 50D using the same raw converter - the jpeg and raw image display the same exposure and raw images do not need the exposure increased.
I have noticed in the raw converter on the Camera Calibration tab that - for the 50D - the Camera Profile contains ACR 4.6, Adobe Standard, and the Canon camera profiles, whereas for the 7D the Camera Profile only has the Adobe Standard and the camera profiles. The converter does say 7D at the top of the screen, however, so the converter recognizes the 7D. Is there a 7D Camera Profile that needs to somehow be configured/uploaded, etc.? ( I did run CameraProfiles.exe)
The 50D and 7D are set up the same, so this is not an ALO or some other camera setup issue - I have done extensive testing in this area. Also, Canon DPP displays the thumbnails (raw & jpeg) and the raw conversion exposure correctly, which tells me that this issue has something to do with ACR 5.6.
Is this a setup issue in 5.6? Or, do I need to upgrade to PSE8 and ACR 5.7 or 6.1 to get around this?
Thanks for your assistance.
Ed

Update:
I installed PSE9, which comes with ACR 6.1, and the issue was not resolved. So, I downloaded ACR 6.2 - same problem: EOS 7D raw images (thumbnails and when opened in raw converter) are 1 stop under-exposed. As stated above, Canon's DPP doesn't exhibit this problem, nor does FastStone Image Viewer, only ACR. Anyone else having this issue? Thanks for any help.
Ed

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