PSE7 Monitor Profile woes (Huey Pro)

So, I finally upgraded to PSE7 from PSE2 to addresses issues I was having with the Huey Pro from Pantone. Basically, if I calibrate the monitor, the colors look great everywhere (incl. other color managed programs) except in Photoshop - they look almost inverted (skin tones are bright magenta, etc). If I kill the Huey pro sw and revert to a previous monitor profile, all is well. If I turn off color management in PSE7, the screen looks fine, but I give up color management. I've tried disabling the startup programs, etc. to no avail. Obviously, upgrading didn't help, as I'm posting here.
I'm starting to think the monitor profile is being applied twice, but the color settings in PSE are so basic, it's really difficult to tell what it's doing.
I'm running out of ideas, and really like the print layouts that PSE offers, but need color management... anyone seen this? Ideas?
{Windows XP, NVidia 8800GT, Intel Quad Core}
Thanks for looking!

If there were a general problem between Huey's and PSE, I think we'd see more reports here or at Elements Village. So that suggests a problem with your particular configuration.
To see if it's specific to PSE independent of Huey's, try PSE with other display profiles. In the Color Control Panel applet, select sRGB IEC61966-2.1 as the default profile for your display. Do colors in PSE look reasonable? Does your display have a color profile supplied by its manufacturer? Many do -- look on its Web site. Does PSE produce reasonable color with that profile set as the default?
If it does, then that suggests that PSE's handling of display profiles works in general and that it's something specific to Huey's.
To see if it's specific to Huey's independent of PSE, you've already tried other color-managed programs. Note that Firefox 3 is color-managed only if you set some specific options -- by default, I don't believe it is. You could try downloading Microsoft's Windows Live Photo Gallery -- based on knowledge base articles, it seems that WLPG is pretty sensitive to non-standard color profiles. See if WLPG works with the Huey profile.

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I have a w700 with Win7 business and Huey Pro 1.24.
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Recently I attended a colormanagement workshop by X-Rite and mentioned that problem with the Huey Pro built into some Lenovo Models. The verbal reply was shocking: The speaker (X-Rite ) knew about this problem and named Huey Pro a 'Toy' certainly not meant for serious photographers. This I heard from X-Rite, no kidding. So this feature is only a useless marketing gimmick between Adobe and Lenovo, nothing more. And we paid for it some extra $$.
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As a photographer using the W701 often and allover the place I need to calibrate it every 10 days to 2 weeks.
For me this is a sad issue and does not raise the reputation of Thinkpads.
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I begin to be realy unhappy with my W700.
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Thanks for your answer but this display drivers and profils are already installed.
What i don't understand is this :
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/maxbrightlenovo.jpg/
and this
http://img39.imageshack.us/i/heyprofil.jpg/
If i open the file with Photoshop or Lightroom, i need to put Huey Pro profil on paramters. But why so much difference ?
The closers colors are off course, with the Lenovo icc profil. The tee-shirt is red...
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Adobe Gamma is no longer distributed with Adobe products. It was designed to help you visually calibrate CRT displays, and didn't produce good results with flat-panel displays. Ignore the tech note you found, and don't worry about trying to install Adobe Gamma.
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Color profiles tell software the color characteristics of individual scanners, printers, and displays. So-called "color-managed" programs use those profiles to reproduce color more accurately. Most programs on Windows are not fully color-managed, including most browsers, Windows Picture And Fax Viewer on XP, and Microsoft Office. Adobe PSE and Windows Photo Gallery and Live Photo Gallery are color-managed.
Some display manufacturers ship profiles that attempt to represent the "average" of that model of display.   But your individual display may differ a fair bit from that "average". That's why people who care about faithful color will use at least an inexpensive calibrator such as the Spider or Huey.
Moving forward, since PSE isn't able to use the LG display profile, and you probably aren't using any other color-managed programs, you could disassocate the profile from the display:
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I'm desperated... I mean, this is not such an unusual combination...
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