PSE8 - organiser unusable

The PSE8 Organiser seems to be effectively unusable ... unless everything marked "automatic" in the preferences is turned off. If these things are not all turned off, then the organiser runs the CPU at full throttle causing other applications (including the PSE8 editor) to run sluggish, at best. No, it is not the auto analyser ... I had this turned off and it still used 100% CPU. Absolutely everything marked "automatic" has to be turned off.
At the very least, the organiser needs the ability to prioritise these automatic functions so that they can be run backgrounded using minimal CPU.
What with that, and the non-configurable versioning system (my main editor is non destructive and doesn't need versioning) it looks like back to FastStone Image Viewer for organising, and simply use PSE8 for the editor. Unless anyone knows of a fix for these problems?

The two Organizer options that will hog your computer are Edit > Preferences > Auto-Analyzer Options > Analyze All Media In Catalog Automatically and Recognize People Automatically. The other options that contain the word "Automatically" don't hog your computer (e.g. Automatically Fix Red Eye).
Note that Auto-Analyzer is dangerous for other reasons: It will corrupt your map locations, split your video clips into "scene groups" that are hard to get rid of, modify the date/time of every file, crash frequently, and litter your folders with temporary files:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Problems_with_the

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http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Folder_Location_view
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Hold down your Ctrl+Shift keys when clicking on the icon to start the Organizer, and keep the keys held down until the Catalog Manager window opens. Then create a new catalog, giving it a completely different name, like
NewCatalog
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Hello Folks;
I face the following issue with PSE7 :
the Catalog function does not work when I try to import pictures located on any other hard disk different from C: disk.
In other words, the following happens :
1) in the Organiser, I create a new Catalog (on C: disk or on F: disk)
2) I import pictures located in a directory on disk F:
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This surprises me because : with PSE4 (my former version) , this worked withiout any problem !
I consider this as a ral software bug, isn't it ?
I am still in touch with Adobe's support but it takes time .. and still no solution ..
Did someone face the same issue ? Suffering in group is less painfull as anyone knows .. ;-)
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THANKS a lot dj-paige ... !!!
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THANKS again dj-paige for the support received ... !!!
I wish all problems in life could be solved as easily as this one !!!
Greetings from Brussels , Belgium
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Just bought PSE7, should I return it and swap for PSE8?

I had a brief look for PSE8 being on the horizon but didn't spot anything at the time (I don't know why but something I read led me to believe they were not yearly and regular as clockwork!).
Anyway the reason I was looking in the first place was that Amazon UK sent me an e-mail saying PSE7 was on special offer, so I downloaded the trial and was impressed with what you could do with the product. In the end I decided to get the PSE & Premiere 7 combo pack for £69, which seemed like a good price for two pieces of quality software.
However I now find out that the PSE & Premiere 8 combo pack is out soon, Amazon UK have it on preorder for £101. Now since I was waiting for my trial to expire and my copy of Windows 7 to arrive before installing it, my copy of v7 is still sealed and can still be returned under Amazon's return policy.
Question is, is it worth going to the expense/trouble of returning this version and then ordering the new version for a £32 premium?
Some reviews seem to suggest it's not worth the upgrade - but I'm not upgrading as I've never owned the product, the upgrade price would be around £60 for just PSE or £90 for both - so much more than it would cost me to return and rebuy.
Things that make me think PSE8 would be a good idea include - it supports Windows 7 which I'm getting when released (though I presume PSE7 will still work fine), I have no organisation to my photo's aside from folders relating to what month or event they were taken so I'm liking the idea of better organisation tools (although I don't know how good the PSE7 ones are, or if I'll actually ever get round to sitting down and doing it - I've had tagging programs before that I haven't had the time or patience to use), and the photo resizing thing looks like a cool gimmick (though I don't know if it has that many practical applications).
Things that make me think keeping PSE7 would be a good idea - PSE/Premiere 8 only really have minor changes for the most part, I got v7 for a special discount price and I'd be returning that to get a full priced product (although Amazon is a bit discounted as it should be £115, not £101), some people on this forum have been complaining about the stability of PSE8 and about some of it's new features, v7 is already set on my desk and ready to go, and this time next year v9 will come out that might have huge improvements so I could stick with the cheaper v7 and put the money towards v9 instead.
What do you think? Swap or keep?

but only because PSE8 will continue to get updates/bug fixes for the next year.
The only thing adobe ever updates for Elements is ACR and that usually works for quite a while after a version is superseded. At least so far they haven't been cutting off previous versions when a new one is released, the way they do in PS, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Delete files problem in organiser PSE 7

This may have been answered in previous discussions but I when I delete old files from the organiser it sometimes, but not always goes back to the top of the organiser ie latest photos added. It sounds petty but after it has happened for the thirtieth time it becomes really annoying. Can anyone help?

Update almost never issues bug-fix updates, so to get fixes you have to wait a year and buy the next version, at full price (no effective discounts for upgrades).
Re new features in PSE 8, see this comparison:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelwin/upgrade/?view=compare
In the Organizer:
- The Auto-Analyzer seems like a silly toy that no one has reported finding useful; it consumes lots of CPU and modifies every single file in your catalog.
- The face recognition works pretty well but has some limitations. Reactions here are mixed -- some people find it very useful, some not.
- The new Keyword Tags text box would be nice if it worked, but it crashes the Organizer after a couple dozen uses.
- Full Screen mode has slowed down considerably on large catalogs, making near unusable.
I like the new features in the Editor and find them worthwhile.

Major slowdown causing Aperture to become unusable on MacPro

I posted this message back in September 08, but the thread has been archived so I cannot reply to it. But the issue is on-going.
I'm at my wits end with Aperture on my desktop Mac (Mac Pro, 2 x 2.66 Ghz Duel Core, 9GB Ram, Radeon X1900 512Mb video card).
My library is currently running at over 115,000 managed images divided into projects each around 100-200 images, these are organised into folders for each month of the year, residing in folders for each year. Images pre-2006 are JPEG and the rest, around 31,000, are RAW files.
When I go into a project and try to edit a caption, select an images, make an adjustment, or just 'Select All' I get the spinning beachball of death, sometimes for up to 5 minuets. Even just clicking on an image to select it in browser mode results in a SBBoD for 20-30 seconds. Adjustments are painful and frustrating. This happens with no other apps running and without Aperture doing any background tasks.
My library of managed images used to resides on a dedicated 1Tb drive installed in an internal bay of the Mac Pro, vaulted to a third drive. The was rather full so recently U have RAID-ed two drives together to provide more storage and now I have 476GB free, about 1/3 of the drives.
There is quite obviously something wrong, as once in a while I can edit a project fairly swiftly, making adjustments, using the sliders fluidly and use full-screen mode etc. However, most of the time it is as slow as described.
It has got to the point when I am editing on my Mac Book Pro (which only contains a few projects, around 500 RAW files) and then transferring the finished project to my Mac Pro for archiving purposes. In fact I have recently exported a project of 1800 RAW files to my laptop to edit, and when finished re-imported to the Mac Pro library as just selecting just a few images to export was taking me half an hour.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to what might be casing the colossal slowdowns and any tips for fixing it? I have already rebuilt the library and moved it to a drive with more free storage.
I'd like to hear from users who have over 100k managed RAW images in their libraries and hear what performance is like on certain systems. I'm convinced that Aperture is capable of running fast and smoothly with this size of archive and that I have a more than powerful set-up.

There is quite obviously something wrong
We agree that something is wrong. The problem is that with heaviest-graphics work almost anything or any combination of things can compromise performance as described. So...
• What version of Aperture?
• What are the files (e.g. mostly 20 MB Nikon NEFs or whatever)?
• What do you observe long term watching Activity Monitor?
• What exactly are your hard drive setups including how full, what types of arrays, what lives on what drives, what connectivity, etc.?
• What routine maintenance have you done on the box since it was new? Not just what you did last week, what was done 2007/2008? Have you ever "migrated" an install?
• What kinds of apps are on the box? Any free ones? Plug-ins? Any bargain buys that potentially could have been pirate versions carrying malware? Any other users with access to the box?
• Does this happen after a reboot with only Aperture open and after all hard drives are for sure up and fully running? A common problem is one or more hard drives spinning down, perhaps intermittently. That would exactly describe your symptoms. Note also that some small apps and most plug-ins get installed to auto-launch, so verify that none are running.
IMO running a Managed-Masters-Library with 100k image files probably requires a perfect RAID array setup for the Library running perfectly along with additional arrays to properly back it all up. Personally I use a RAID0 Library arrayed on two internal drives but use a Referenced-Masters-Library with Masters on external drives to keep Library size reasonable. (Note this para is just an observation, we have a lot more to discuss in order to troubleshoot)
Buy Disk Warrior (be sure to get the exact version appropriate for your OS) and run it if you have not yet done so.
Try creating and running as a new user.
Trash Preferences and restart.
Repair Permissions immediately before and immediately after any installation that asks for the admin password.
Although repairing Permissions is not a fix for poor performance, many of us on the Photoshop forums do find that religiously repairing Permissions immediately before and immediately after every installation of any kind helps keep a graphics box running more smoothly. In any event repairing Permissions does no harm, only good.
If we do not come to a solution I will lend you a new unused HD2600 XT graphics card to try in the event your 1900 card is flaky (which is not uncommon). I bought it but it requires OS 10.5.x and I still use 10.4.11.
-Allen Wicks

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