PSE9 Organizer File Order display

Before PSE9 if I chose to display the images in file order it did just that, no more.
In PSE9 displaying the images in file order imposes a selection on the images, So, if choose to look at a particular folder the it selects the files in that folder to the exclusion of files in all other folders.
In this screenshot I have clicked on a folder which has 17 files in it. It says at the bottom left of the screen that it has 'selected' 17 images out my 16000 files.
Now here is the same display in PSE8
The same 17 files from that folder are displayed, but them so are the ones in the following folder and I could scroll down through all 16000 of them without needing to select another folder. Note that there is no mention of 17 files having been selected at the bottom left hand corner.
All I specified was a display order, not a selection of which files to display.
It seems that in PSE9 if I want to select images from an assigned tag the only way it can be done is to display the images in date order in the tagged files are in different folders. This is useless.
Please can anyone explain the logic in this 'update'?

I would love to go back to PSE8 as it worked perfectly.
Unfortunately I bought a new Nikon D7000 and PSE8 does not recognize it.
I was informed that I needed PSE9 to use my new Nikon.
Here is my post to a response that claimed I needed to do a 10-14 step workaround for an issue :
I realize that I sounded extremely negative BUT I have had Photo Elements since 2001.
I Never had a problem with any part of the software.
To me the main reason that individuals like me get Elements is because of its ease to work with compared to PhotoShop.
Let me list the problems that I am having :
Bridge
(1) The thumbnails do not show the picture
(2) You cannot attach to an email from Bridge.
(3) It now lists the file by date not consecutive numbering.
I contacted Nikon and they say it is a software issue not the camera.
Organizer :
(1)
It takes over an hour to load a picture from Elements (after you do a PP, even a simple crop) into organizer and it renders Organizer useless during the load process.
A window drops and says "Element Organizer is currently busy and cannot process the request".
Sometimes it shows the picture and says : "edit in progress" with a Lock symbol.
If you wanted to share or do anything else in Organizer you are stuck until it transfer the picture.
(2)
The email size has issues :
Big, medium level (slide bar with numbers) : never loads and I have to force quit Organizer and Mail
Very Big, medium level: looks like a postage stamp or never loads
Medium, any level size is Ok and what I have to use.
(3)
When I send a picture via email from Organizer from my ATT email address after it sends it, it puts it back in my MAC mail draft box.
I have to delete it and close mail out otherwise if I only delete it, it reappears again in the draft box.
(4)
I have not tried any of the other features, Facebook etc, Heaven only knows what else I would encounter.
(5) Periodic crashes of Organizer while in it.
(6)
The Notion that previously went from RAW edit to PSE for PP and the adjusted pictured stayed in Bridge or where I wanted to put it and now
Adobe decided that you need to use Bridge for RAW edit into PSE and then into another program (Organizer) is not the simplistic way it was originally designed for people like me.
(7)
These issues occur with both RAW and jPeg files.
In the past several PSE always had a separate MAC version that came out several months after the windows version.
This time they consolidated the versions and I am concerned that this was a mistake that is leading to these issues.
I am a MAC User and bought a new DLSR Nikon D7000, Which Adobe told me that I would have to upgrade to PSE 9 to allow Adobe to work with the D7000.
I am guessing that there are too many issues here and Adobe should have check any MAC issues and issued a separate software package.
If anyone from Adobe reads these posts and gets PSE 9 to work with a combined MAC and D7000 or just corrects their issues contact me so I can use this program again as I have used for 10 years with any issues.
Otherwise I will have to after the holidays be forced to look for new software.
Again I state that PSE was the easiest software I could use and now it is a nightmare.
I decided to drag and drop out of PSE to the desktop and load them in iPhoto and email from there.
Goodbye ORGANIZER !
Greg
I am not going to spend hours trying all kinds of gimmicks and 10 step workarounds which as a person with limited computer skills will only get into deeper trouble. I am already tired and frustrated spending the amount of time with this.
Greg

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:24:26 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Time stamp in PSE9 organizer messed up?
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