Pseudo Flex time for MIDI

A friend created a piano boogie woogie midi file for me. I would like to convert it to standard musical notaton. He did not use a click track and varied his tempo quite a bit during the piece. The midi software was recording at 120 BPM but he was actually playing anywere from 165 to 182 BPM. Is it possible to use Logic Pro 9 to easily smooth out his tempo and return the result as a MIDI file which I can pass to Sibelius for further work?
I am a beginner at Logic Pro. I know I can use Flex time to correct audio tracks but I want to come out with MIDI. I could use piano roll editiong to move notes (individually or in groups) but that would be an enormous amout of work.
Is there any hope.
Thanks.

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welshwiggle wrote:
I tap in a manual click for the whole song, beatmap it and it works great.
Then , I foolishly think to myself, I'll just 'tighten up' the drums and bass a little using FutzTime and........DISASTER.
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I don't think there's a need to add a manual click to make this work. Just do the beat mapping before you do anything else (no Flex active, no tempo changes added to the files from previous attempts of making this work etc).
For simplicty, please try this with only one track:
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If this doesn't work as expected, what exactly goes wrong?
Note that if you totally beat map the region (every note in the region) befor eyou quantize, quantie won't do anyhting, because all the notes atcually already match the grid - as a result of the beat mapping.
If you explain actually what you want to do - and what goes wrong, it will be easier to help you out.
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Bob

I am getting that exact same problem too. A bass line that after using Flex time on, would randomly get clicks on it. I think it's doing it to the guitar lines too.
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Hope Apple fixes this soon!

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To obtain a full System Profiler Report, select "About This Mac" from the Apple Menu and click the "More Info" button. This automatically launches the System Profiler application. Once the System Profiler application has been launched please follow the steps below:
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