PSU causing lock ups when gaming? K9A2 Platinum

I am having black screen and occasionally grey screen lock ups when Im playing games. It can happen within 10 minutes or up to an hour. I have to press the power button to restart and dont get any windows errors or blue screen. I have no issues when watching videos or just tooling around. My PSU is a OCZ600MXSP and Im thinking its not up to spec. I have everything running stock. Is it likely my PSU doesnt cut it or is the black/grey screen freeze thing an cpu/gpu overheating issue?

All of my drivers are up to date (I do use driver sweeper as well). It happens pretty much in all games, from BFBC2 and TF2 to some crappy kid game my son plays online (Wizard 101?). Im not sure what the temps are under load but at idle they are good (cant recall what exactly they were but were in the proper temp range). My monitor has just finally died as Im typing this on my laptop (bad caps on power board ) so Ill test the temps while gaming when I can hook it up to my big LCD.
Could the lock up with no blue screen/error report indicate a component overheating?

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I fought with this for most of the night, even trying windowed mode so I could at least force quit the program, but it so locked up the machine I couldn't even do that. Assuming it was a WoW problem I went to their support page and tried all of their software based recommendations, including trashing the program and reinstalling, to no avail.
I left it alone for the night and tackled it again today, all day. I am apparently not the only one having this problem according to the WoW Mac support forums and as is typical everyone assumes it is something wrong with the game. I was inclined to agree since I could do anything else I wanted to do as far as work and Activity Monitor and AHT revealed nothing wrong. At a loss I did more research and have tried the following:
•Disabling Spotlight with Spotless (Shareware)
•Installing SMC Fan Control (Freeware) and cranking fan speeds up to 1400rpm
•Putting sound through Built-in Output
•Removing all unnecessary peripherals
•Disabled all known startup programs
•Ran only WoW with no other apps running
•Ran every non game app I have installed at the same time (at least 25 including CS3 Design Suite) without locking up
•Ran 30 video files at one time without locking up
Desperate I used Bootcamp and switched over to Windows XP, which I loathe, and went through the 2 hour installation process only to have it lock up while I was waiting in queue to log in to the game (about 2 minutes of the program being open).
I hard booted the machine into Windows again and loaded up Call of Duty 4 and it locked up on me too. So now I'm scared I actually have some sort of hardware problem and while I haven't had any problems with non game apps I'm afraid this could start messing with my work.
Console gives me nothing conclusive though I don't know what I'm looking for. Any help out there?
Message was edited by: Phoenyx (typographical and grammatical errors)

I find it hard to believe it is an overheating issue when it locks up on login queues. Thanks for the info about Windows but I'm not trying to hard to make things run on that side. XP was just a test.
I have run permission repair using Disk Utility and the Apple Hardware Test, neither finding anything to cause these sort of problems. I'm not trying to spend $100 on something (Disk Warrior) that may or may not fix the problem.
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It happens after 3-4 minutes of playing.
When I REMOVE the soundcard - everything is fine, NO BSOD.
I tried different Audigy 2 drivers, but they all give the same result. This did not happen on my old ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe 2.0, and the soundcard was in PCI Slot 5 as well. I tried to format, and etc., - same thing if the soundcard is in the PCI slot!
I have PCI lock ENABLED (AGP set to 67Mhz, and PCI LOCK DETECTION set to ENABLED).
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Originally posted by MonarchX
I have PCI lock ENABLED (AGP set to 67Mhz, and PCI LOCK DETECTION set to ENABLED).
When you said that you have PCI lock enabled and PCI lock detection enabled, were you talking about the same thing? If not, where in the BIOS is the PCI lock? I could only find PCI Lock Detection.

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I've got my system set as below and I never have problems playing games, I can run prime95 for hours and any benchmark I can throw at it. But on occasion, in the middle of the night when I'm fast asleep, the entire system will freeze.
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No BSODS, no sleep/hibernate or what have you, power set to always on.
I should point out that this isn't necessarily a big problem. More of a curiosity. Its happened maybe 3 times in the last 5 months.
So it doesn't really effect anything. It's just a weird thing that everything runs so well but at almost at the opposite of what you'd expect, when the system is doing nothing and the temperatures are at the coolest they ever get in a 24 hour period, the computer locks up.
Now the only thing I can think of that would run at this time of day would be the System Restore automatic restore point creation, maybe that's it. Everything's cold and getting thrown into the system restore causes problems.
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At first I thought I had the same issue as in this thread however after reading his logs I decided that it is unlikely since the topic opener seems to be getting a bunch of
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I am not getting anything in my logs when I look at them after the crashes. It seems as if whatever is causing the issue makes it impossible to write to the drives so nothing seems out of place until after it's too late, and quite obvious that something is wrong. The sole exception to this was some complaint about ata9.00, however this seems to have been a red haring since the complete removal of this drive solved nothing, though it did make the error go away.
I have run memtest, and prime95 (in windows since at the time I didn't want to boot my system) both coming back negative. I also checked for SMART errors, particularly UDMA errors. Again, negative.
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[edit3] My previous thought was that this was a btrfs issue, however now I think it may be more hardware related.[/edit3]
Last night I was writing urandom to a new drive and I woke up in the morning to see that it had stopped prematurely, but not due to lack of space. The system had not locked up completely, which was new, however, as soon as I did something that accessed the disks (tried using the Gnome Dash), all hell broke loose. I immediately hit the power button, which would start a shutdown. I didn't know about REISUB, or I would have tried that. In anycase the shutdown failed and I had to hard reboot.
The evening before I was playing games just fine and doing normal activities.
Also, the other day, while booted into the live cd I think it started to crash since it was acting extremely bizarre, but I shutdown, successfully, before it could do more than complain a lot. At the time I was in the middle of scrubbing a btrfs volume after a system lock up. I think, but am not certain, that I saw on my motherboard "A5" which, according to the manual indicates "SCSI reset", but I had an extremely bad viewing angle. I know neither if what I think I saw was correct, nor do I know if the system was again in the process of a meltdown.
In general there is no activity that seems to be able to instantly trigger this, though in each case, if my memory serves me well, there was a constant stream of data either to or from a HDD.
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My motherboard is a ASUS X79-DELUXE which has the SATA controllers: Intel X79 Express Chipset, Marvell 9230, ASMedia 1061.
[edit] Oh, I'm on kernel 3.19.2 and btrfs is 3.19.
[edit2] Also, I converted the RAID0 to a single in case that matters.
[edit4] I finished scrubbing and copied my "journalctl -b" output to pastebin. I can't see any thing that might raise any flags. http://pastebin.com/WXpbpTuc
Last edited by nstgc (2015-04-05 16:46:00)

nstgc : it's hard to tell if your problems are memory related, but memtst often needs multiple passes to detect errors.
How many passes did you let it make ?
Is it possible for you to take out say half of the memory chips and see if that changes anything ?
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I've got an ASUS PCE-A66 wireless ac pci-e card. Had absolutely no issues with it in my old Z77 board, but I seem to be having a lot of issues with it in my new Z87 MPower MAX. System was locking up like mad when I was trying to install the drivers at first. Had to rip out the WiFi/Bluetooth/WiDi module to get the drivers installed but the system randomly hangs on boot up? Don't get the issues with the card unplugged and don't always get it with it plugged in, but there seems to be some form of conflict with it that I can't resolve. Has anyone else had any such issues with any PCI-e add in cards on this motherboard?
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Hi, I've been searching everywhere for my problem, and the things I find usually are left unanswered :(
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The Coletek is a national brand aimed at the OEM market, or its source is aimed at companies that assemble PCs They have a separate brand for products geared to the retail market, the C3Tech. Today we test the model LC-8460BTX S (which, despite its name, is an ATX and not a BTX) that is sold as a source of 450 W. Really?.....
....Speaking of curiosity, in Figure 7 you can see the marking of the type of fuse in the circuit board of the source. All sources bring this information. But the curious thing here is that the marking indicates that for a source from 150 to 200 W a 5 A fuse should be used and to a source from 230 to 300 W from a 6.3 A fuse should be used. As this power supply uses a fuse of 6.3 A, we have a source between 230 and 300 W, according to their own existing markup on the printed circuit board thereof. As the manufacturer can turn that into 450 W on the label of the source is a magic that Mr. M can not explain.....
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