PT-880 NEO-LSR can't handle new memory ??

I recently decided to improve the performance of my "gaming rig" by pulling the Corsair value memory and just replaced it with Corsair twinX1024 PC3200-XL. I was impressed with the reviews and the out of the box "plug-n-frag" feature that will boot up at the timings of 2-2-2-5. Very tight timings for someone who isn't really interested in any major overclocking. The problem is that within 10 minutes of installing it on my PT-880 NEO-LSR board the system crashed. After some head scratching and continued crashes, I decided it was the new memory. The Corsair value memory never had an issue in dual channel mode. So I ended up running MEMtest86 on it, and it passed. So back to square one again. Well, after alot of trial and error I decided to go in the BIOS and turned off "auto by SPD" and through lots of experimenting , have it now stable with the following settings : 2-2-3-6 @2.75v. Well, It's very stable now with no crashes for 2 days. So can anyone tell me why this board can't handle the default settings of this memory? Are the extremely tight timings too much for this board? I really want to get what I paid for, and am open to suggestions to make it run stable at the advertised 2-2-2-5. If it helps, my system is as follows: MSI PT-880 NEO-LSR w/ latest BIOS flash v1.9 (I think thats the number), P-4 3.2ghz (Northwood), thermaltake silent Purepower 420watt PSU, Seagate 120gb. SATA HD, Gainward Golden Sample Geforce 6800 GT (overclocked), Creative Audigy2 soundcard, lite-on 52x CD/DVD rom combo , and lite-on 8x DVD burner drive. I built this system myself, but until now have never had to manually set timings to get it to run (unless overclocking). Maybe I'm finding out why there are $70.00 Mobo's and $200.00 mobos ? Thanks in Advance group for any help!

NovJoe, Just wanted to let you know that Corsair was good enough to respond to me and gave me a few "tweaks" they wanted to see me try. Although on this Mobo I can see no where to set the burst length to 8 as they asked, and for some reason the The SDRAM Active to Precharge (tRAS) can only be manually set down to 6T and not 5T as they wanted. I ended up resetting everything back to "auto by SPD" (reluctantly awaiting the big crash again on reboot). Much to my amazement it has been running for about 2hrs. now without a crash on the same auto settings it refused to run at 2 days ago when I installed it. Really strange huh? So being the memory newb that I am.....how can I view what it's actually running the timings at presently under auto settings?? Thanks- Herb

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