PT8 Neo-LSR board support

Does the PT8 Neo-LSR motherboard support Intel Celeron 1.8Ghz Processors?

Only Northwood's according to this page
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=488

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PT8-Neo LSR and Radeon 9700pro

Ok so I bought my new MSI board for my 2nd PC and happily installed the P4 2.4 cpu (northwood 533fsb non-ht, this is my 2nd box after all) and 1gb ram.
Placed in the Radeon 9700Pro (with Arctic Cooling vga silencer) and everything worked great.. in fact I was very impressed with the performance.
Then this morning, I succumbed to the bright idea of .. hey I wonder if there are any updates for the bios or drivers? ( ) So installed Liveupdate 3 that came with the board, and after it had run and repatched itself twice it told me, your bios is out of date.. here's ver 2.00..
So I downloaded it, made the dos floppy, and flashed the bios (a procedure I've done many times over the years) and set the new bios up.. win2k booted fine, and everything was great until... I opened internet explorer, and the radeon promptly crashed, the ATI software recovered it, but everytime I tried anything remotely concerning graphics, the Radeon crashed. This espicially happened with anything 3D of course, but also would happen frequently with 2D gfx also.
To cut a long story short, after experimenting (like all damn day ) with every bios for the PT8 Neo-LSR available, it seems that version 1.1 is the ONLY bios for the board which supports the Radeon 9700pro card under win2k at least. Or rather the only version that works for me and allows me to run games and stuff without Radeon stopping responding.
System isn't overclocked, and neither is the Radeon btw.. so I think I have the system working again now with v1.1 of the bios, but I haven't tested it a lot yet.. but at least it loads the radeon screen savers without crashing so far.

Yeah..
system is as follows..
Msi PT8-Neo LSR
Pentium 4 2.4C 533fsb (non-ht)
1gb 266 ddr ram (2x 512mb)
Connect 3D radeon 9700pro 128mb (Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer in perma High mode)
Creative SBLive value!
IBM Deskstar 60gb ide1 master
Seagate Barracuda 30Gb ide1 slave
Plextor cd writer ide2 master
Seagate Barracuda 80Gb sata 1
I think the idea mentioned before might be worth a shot... I can feel a full install of windows coming on.. more self torture
Edit
Yes, during the course of the day I did install the latest ati catalyst drivers and dx9 also..

PT8 NEO-LSR setup problem

Hi, I just bought a PT8 Neo-LSR (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=488) With 512 DDR pc-3200 RAM, WD 80gb hd, P4 300-800 CPU. His ATI 9600XT 256 Mb AGP video
Put everything together in a brand new case.
Turn the power on. THe fans ARE working either on the CPU and the video card, but that's all. no signla, no beep no nothing. I put the plug in JPW1, put my memory in slot 1. The thing I see is the jumper on JBAT1 who is in 2-3 (clear data). I tried to put it in 1-2 but then NOTHING moves.
Any idea of what I did wrong ?

had the same problem whit the same board.
the store selled me a rma one (i think).
mouse 'did not work(ps2)
no jumpers on front audio connectors
cmos jumpers was wrong (clear data)
no ide cabels and driver cd.
just get it back to the shop for a new one
the one i have now works fine

Speedfan and PT8 Neo-v board

I have a PT8 neo-v board with a pentium 4 2.8 (800) processor and 512MB ram for which I am trying to use Speedfan to control the speed of the CPU fan. I have set speedfan up as instructed and it shows the speed percentage altering correctly as the CPU temperature changes but the fan speed does not change and is always the same at approximately 2200 RPM. I have no other fan connected to the board so it must be reading the CPU fan speed.
Does the board require any modifications in the bios to allow speedfan to alter the CPU fan speed or does this board not allow any alterations of the CPU fan speed?
I have a power supply that is rated at 30 amps on the 12 volt line but I noticed that the temperature graph on speedfan would suddenly drop by 5 degrees and then return immediately to the previous level. I logged the voltages, fan speed against the CPU temperature but there was no alterations in these when the temperature dropped. I am wondering wether to return this board for another make of board as I also have problems running the ram at DDR333 and these problems may be related to each other.

Hi,
The 865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition, is a great mainboard, slightly dearer than the PT8
Link to spex of mainboard.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=556
Quite a few people have upgraded to this mainboard from the PT8** series mainboard, the setup is easier.
Del

PT8 neo LSR

I have a PT8 NEO LSR, p4, 512 ddr, 2 ata hdd 1 maxtor 1 fugitsu , 1 sata hdd (maxtor), SB live 1.5 digital , Gforce fx 5600.
now down to the problem, when using the SATA maxtor drive to boot. windows starts up no problem, sound works, but when using a 3d aplication (opengl / TL) the graphics are choppy as if there is a textuer problem or no textuers at all, at first i thought it was the card so i put a 5700 in my machine and it did the same, then i thought it was the hard drive got it replaced and still the problem arises, i have updated my bios +mobo drivers and stil i have this problem tho when booting from ide the problem dose not arise, is this caused by the sata not being in an array (as it needs 2 drives for an aray) or is there another solution
any help would be apretiated thanks
Shawn
p.s sorry for bad spelling and grammer

Mister MONOrales you are burned, what's up my friend?
check this out...
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support.php
I never think that I gonna find you in this forum..
C-ya

RAM update on my PT8 NEO-LSR

Hi guys,
I want to update my memory and was wondering what RAM i should get. I have a P4 3.00Ghz and I hear that the minimum I should have is PC3200. I have seen some new ones about PC4000 etc and was wonderinif they would be compatible with my motherboard. Also another thing I'm not to sure about is if dual channel memory would be compatible to.
Thanks

All of that info is in your manual. You can download an electronic copy from msi's board pages.
LKS

PT8 Neo SATA Raid Configuration Utility

I recently upgraded my system which was running a AMD athlon 1.2GHZ processor and only 128mb SDRAM. The system was stable and running windows XP home edition.
I upgraded to the PT8 Neo motherboard which supports SATA hard drives. I was expecting a dramatic increase when I upgraded my system to the new P4 800mhz FSB 3.0GB processor and 512MB DDR 400mhz ram.
I was still using my WD 60GB EIDE Hard Drive when I upgraded the Motherboard, Ram, & Processor. The upgrade went smoothly and system worked without glitches.
Unsatisfied with the increase in performance, I also purchased a Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10000 RPM hard drive using the SATA interface cable.
I have updated the bios of the motherboard and updated the driver for the SATA raid controller using Live Bios Update 3.
I am having 2 problems:
Problem 1. When I enter the bios for the SATA Raid configuration utility after the initial post by pressing , none of the selections are available. I move my arrows down but nothing highlights and I can't select anything in the configuration utility except ESC key to exit.
The SATA controller is enabled in the BIOS.
The initial SATA Raid Configuration displayed immediately after the post, does show the hard drive.
I want to be able to boot from the new WD Raptor Hard Drive and transfer all the existing files from the IDE Drive to the SATA drive, but I can't seem to get the drive to initialize, format, fdisk, etc.
Problem 2. Windows XP doesn't have enough resources available to activate the VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller in Device Manager. It shows a Yellow ! and returns a code 12 (This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use). I have tried disabling several items in the bios including LAN support, On board Sound but nothing seems to work.
Keep in mind, I have downloaded the latest bios, latest drivers, etc.
The rest of the components on my machine are as follows:
1. Custom Built Computer (Non-Branded)
2. 60GB Western Digital 7200 RPM IDE Hard Drive on IDE0 (Master)
3. DVD Rom on IDE0 (Slave)
4. MSI 52x32x52x CDRW on IDE1 (Master)
5. Zip 100 IDE Drive (Slave)
6. Floppy Drive
7. Pentium 4 3.0GZ 800mhz FSB
8. 512mb DDR 400mhz Memory
9. ATI All-In-Wonder PCI Video Card
10. SIIG Firewire controller
I have already tried removing the SIIG firewire controller thinking that it was getting in the way of available resources. That did not work.
I have invested alot of money on this system, I wanted the best and have always used MSI motherboards because of their stability and reliability.
Please help as soon as possible.
Thanks

first off you are only using one SATA so no option are avalible in Raid Bios
in order to install windows the safe way detach your 60ata hrad drive plug in the raptor and install windows then Press F6 at the begining the you will have to the SATA diskett in the floppy drive in stall SATA windows drivers continue with install.
once you are fished Windows, drivers then shut down and plug in your ATA hard drive turn on your PC enter the bios navagate to the Advanceed BIOS Features/Boot Sequency selected your SATA raid drive as First boot then CD roms as second. then your done boot in to windows

965 neo f AHCI support?

965 neo f board support ahci mode? I cant see my bios

I am not talking about the northbridge (P965). I am talking about the Southbridge. Your board has an ICH8 southbridge and it doesn't support AHCI mode.
Have a look here:
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imst/sb/CS-012304.htm
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AHCI is built into chipsets with the following controller hubs:
* Intel® 82801IR/IO Controller Hub (ICH9R) - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 82801HEM I/O Controller Hub (ICH8M-E) - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 82801HBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH8M) - AHCI only
* Intel® 82801HR/HH/HO I/O Controller Hub (ICH8R) - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 631xESB/632xESB I/O Controller Hub - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 82801GHM I/O Controller Hub (ICH7MDH) - RAID only
* Intel® 82801GBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH7M) - AHCI only
* Intel® 82801GR I/O Controller Hub (ICH7R) - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 82801GH I/O Controller Hub (ICH7DH) - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 82801FR I/O Controller Hub (ICH6R) - RAID and AHCI
* Intel® 82801FBM I/O Controller Hub (ICH6M) - AHCI only
There is no ICH8 in the list (Only ICH8R, ICH8M and ICH8M-E).
So again: The P965 Neo-F has an ICH8 southbridge, that doesn't support AHCI mode.
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asus p5b support ahci mode
That depends on which P5B you are referring to:
http://event.asus.com/2006/mb/P5B/models.html
What I said about the Intel ICH8 southbridge is not true for the secondary JMicron (JMB361) controller that provides an additional SATA port. As far as I know, the JMB361 doesn't need to be switched to AHCI mode in BIOS:
http://www.jmicron.com/Product_JMB361.htm
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Compliant with Serial ATA AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) Spec. Reversion 1.0

PT-880 NEO-LSR can't handle new memory ??

I recently decided to improve the performance of my "gaming rig" by pulling the Corsair value memory and just replaced it with Corsair twinX1024 PC3200-XL. I was impressed with the reviews and the out of the box "plug-n-frag" feature that will boot up at the timings of 2-2-2-5. Very tight timings for someone who isn't really interested in any major overclocking. The problem is that within 10 minutes of installing it on my PT-880 NEO-LSR board the system crashed. After some head scratching and continued crashes, I decided it was the new memory. The Corsair value memory never had an issue in dual channel mode. So I ended up running MEMtest86 on it, and it passed. So back to square one again. Well, after alot of trial and error I decided to go in the BIOS and turned off "auto by SPD" and through lots of experimenting , have it now stable with the following settings : 2-2-3-6 @2.75v. Well, It's very stable now with no crashes for 2 days. So can anyone tell me why this board can't handle the default settings of this memory? Are the extremely tight timings too much for this board? I really want to get what I paid for, and am open to suggestions to make it run stable at the advertised 2-2-2-5. If it helps, my system is as follows: MSI PT-880 NEO-LSR w/ latest BIOS flash v1.9 (I think thats the number), P-4 3.2ghz (Northwood), thermaltake silent Purepower 420watt PSU, Seagate 120gb. SATA HD, Gainward Golden Sample Geforce 6800 GT (overclocked), Creative Audigy2 soundcard, lite-on 52x CD/DVD rom combo , and lite-on 8x DVD burner drive. I built this system myself, but until now have never had to manually set timings to get it to run (unless overclocking). Maybe I'm finding out why there are $70.00 Mobo's and $200.00 mobos ? Thanks in Advance group for any help!

NovJoe, Just wanted to let you know that Corsair was good enough to respond to me and gave me a few "tweaks" they wanted to see me try. Although on this Mobo I can see no where to set the burst length to 8 as they asked, and for some reason the The SDRAM Active to Precharge (tRAS) can only be manually set down to 6T and not 5T as they wanted. I ended up resetting everything back to "auto by SPD" (reluctantly awaiting the big crash again on reboot). Much to my amazement it has been running for about 2hrs. now without a crash on the same auto settings it refused to run at 2 days ago when I installed it. Really strange huh? So being the memory newb that I am.....how can I view what it's actually running the timings at presently under auto settings?? Thanks- Herb

[VIA Series] PT8 Neo-V JBAT1 pin positions - stupid question

Which end to count from - can't tell from the manuals. Is 1 at the end nearest the IDE connectors?
In one position (shorting pins farthest from the IDE connectors) nothing at all happens, in the other position I get through the bios to a blinking cursor on a blank screen.

Okay - her's my spec:
MSI PT8 Neo-V
Pentium 4 2.53 533fsb Northwood
Samsung 256MB DDR PC2100
ATAPI DVDROM 16X
TOSHIBA DVD-R-/DVD-RW-
Seagate ST380021A 80GB 7200RPM
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440SE
Seasonic SS 300FS 300W Power Supply
{+12v=15A,+3.3v=28A,+5.0v=30A}
All I did was change the motherboard from a VIA P4PB400 after an overheating problem (the processor fan broke due to build-up of dust - since then the PC was 'okay' but was cutting out after about 30 minutes use). I then tried a CPU upgrade on the VIA but it didn't support the Precott 2.4GHz I'd bought - so I went for the MSI board. I get the same symptoms with the MSI board using the Prescott - went back to the Northwood after seeing the power issues on your forum.
So - even if I unplug the DVDs and floppy - I get either nothing at all, or no hard drive boot (depending on the JBAT1 jumpers - hence I'd like to know which jumper is number 1).

PT8-Neo

Hye there,
I have a big problem a have bought a new board msi PT8 neo (MS 6799). CPU 2.8/1Mb/533.
VGA GForce FX5200 128Mb
RAM 128MB
Power Supply-ATX 400
HDD maxtor 40Gb
CDRW MSI
Floppy
The system does not start!! i see only the CPU fan working
No display available
HELP ME DUDES!!! PLZ

- Try remove and re-seat cpu and cooler.
- Check 4-pin cpu powerconnection.
- Spec your Powersupply (Amps on the 3,3/5v/12v lines - read from PSu label)
Supportlist from bios 2.0, make some differans on which Prescott 2,8Ghz/ 533mhz/ 1MBcache, cpu model you´ve got.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=488&kind=1
The 2.80Ghz with these steppings seems to be OK
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=483&NoNav=NO&CorSpd=5467&SysBusSpd=5419&MfgTech=6591&step=ALL&cache=5893&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections
The 2.80A model with these steppings do not have support
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=483&NoNav=NO&CorSpd=6595&SysBusSpd=5419&MfgTech=6591&step=ALL&cache=5893&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections
I don´t know the real differans between them, look alike to me.

MSI PT8 NEO-V & SATA II

hardware:
MSI PT8 NEO-V mainboard
HITACHI 80 Gb SATA II Hard Drive
Hi i bougth a HITACHI 80 Gb SATA II Hard Drive and a MSI PT8 NEO-V Mainboard but im just sincere, I DONT KNOW HOW TO INSTALLED i tried on way but i didnt work....
This was that way:
I put a Xp instalation cd for boot the system from there (CD)
Turned on the pc
this message appeared: SCANNING DEVISES...
The hte pc Booted from the cd
It charged the files to install xp
Then it didnt reconize the hard drive...
ok i tried installing the controllers that came with the mainboard's cd
(Promise SATA150 TX2plus Driver)
but the message "THERE'S NOT HARD DRIVE "
and thats it I CAN NOT INSTALL THE SATA II HD
SIMPLELY I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
PLEASE HELP ME

Quote from: Danny on 21-August-05, 10:56:16
According to this page http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=597 that board doesn't have a Promise controller. You need to install the Via driver.
If you don't have a disk there is a driver link on that page. You download the zip file and inside you will find instructions on making a floppy.
Hi I did taht thing but it didn`t work either.. when i start the xp instalation, booting from Xp cd , it charges all its files but then when it says "Press ENTER to continue the instalations" the message is there AGAIN... THERE'S NOT HARD DRIVE ....
what can i do, WHAT U THINK PEOPLE, This maimboard supports SATA II, I thougth that it could works like SATA 150, i don't care the technology, i just want IT WORKS lile 150 sata 2 i dont care that.... but JUST WORKS!!

PT880 Neo-LSR 7008 ver 1 dead after bios flash

I flashed my new (well it's been on a shelf for a while) PT880 Neo-LSR 7008 with a Win98 floppy and now it doesn't boot anymore.
I followed the instructions on the website ... make boot floppy, put bios on different disk. when I ran the flash program, it
successfully erased the old bios then I got a error reading drive a: error. I assumed it was looking for command.com or some
other nonsense, but I hit r for retry several times before taking the bios disk out and putting the boot floppy in. then I
hit r for retry again. the flash program then continued, starting the flash process, finishing, and finally giving me a 'success' message
and sending me back to the DOS prompt. So I assumed it worked.
Now when I try to boot the computer (which booted fine before the flash), I get nothing. The D-bracket-2 never gets past
all four lights (= system power on - "the d-led will hang here if the processor is damaged or not installed properly"), even though
I changed nothing other than flashing the bios. The cpu fan is plugged in and turns so I don't think it's the thermal protection
circuit.
I tried hitting ctrl-home to force a bios recover with a bios file named amibios.rom in the floppy but I don't see any drive
lights come on the floppy after several minutes.
I also tried booting after clearing the cmos with jumper and also physically taking the battery out. This is not my first time
flashing a bios, but the first time I had a problem. Anybody got any suggestions? oh yeah, I used
the 1.9 bios 11-26-04 to flash.

okay, thanks. the files check out fine on a different floppy drive (was written using the floppy on the dead computer).
the MSI tech support people also think it is a bad board (even though it worked fine prior to the bios upgrade). wasn't sure I would get a reply from the ts people, site says you should get a confirm letter first, which i didn't. luckily i still have at least a month based on manufacture date till the 1 yr warranty ends.

Still troubleshooting 0x0000007F errors on PT880 Neo-LSR

So frustrating...just cannot seem to end the 2-3 times a week blue-screen shutdown my computer insists on. Posted something a few months back on this, and consensus seemed to be that my 380w Antec Power supply was too small for my system, so I upgraded it to the TruePower550, really hoping this would end the problem. It did not.
Seemingly corresponding with the errors I'm getting (it seems), is a disk error in the event properties that says:
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk4\D. Sometimes it calls this "Harddisk3" or "Harddisk2" for some reason, but it's always D. My D: drive is a 160GB IDE that is pretty new and it's hard to imagine it's really failing. Maybe, but I doubt it. I replaced the IDE cable to this drive to no avail. I don't know if the fact that my C: drive is SATA is contributing to this, though.
The blue screen error actually reads:
0x0000007F (0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
Microsoft says this is either bad RAM or a bad mobo. Both are just a few months old. I have a lot of pretty new (expensive) equipment going here.
It seems if I want to have my Geil memory tested, I have to pay $49 at the computer store near me. Which seems outrageous. I could almost buy a brand new PT880 Neo-LSR for that. Which won't help if the mobo is not the problem, but still. The BIOS I'm running is 1.7.
Obviously I'm going to have to keep spending money on new equipment troubleshooting this. It never ends!! The question is, where to spend it? On the RAM test? On a new slave drive I might not need? Should I just buy a new mobo?
Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Well, I pulled the drive that was throwing the errors and sure enough, still getting the same errors/restarts saying the drive D (which is no longer in the machine at all) is at fault. Ridiculous.
This has to be the board. I'm convinced.
Time to buy (another) new motherboard. This one must be like 4 months old or so. Sheesh.
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Originally posted by johnnyalex
Hi there, my first MSI mainboard was bad, i kept getting stop errors just like yourself, i was at my wits end ! eventualy when i swapped the mainboard over everything was ok..... it may not be your board just wanted to give you some moral support!
Can you remove the slave drive for now and see if that helps with stopping the errors, if not then perhaps RMA your Board as a mainboard fault will throw all kinds of errors at you.
I spent 7 months trouble shooting before i found out it was the board ... Iwould not wish that stress on anyone else. Any way good luck and let us know if you fix it.

Problem with PT8 NEO Y VGA ATI SAPHIRE 9250SE

problem with PT8 NEO Y VGA ATI SAPHIRE 9250SE

From the VGA test report: http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6799/vga.pdf for the board , i can't find ATI Radeon 9250SE , but it is obvious that MSI only tested their Nvidia cards and no ATI cards. So, you'd better to try Nvidia cards or contact your VGA vendor to ask if there is the latest VGA BIOS to solve your issue.
Anyway, remember to tell us the results .

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