Pulling the trigger on a new Mac Pro. Advice please.

Okay, here we go. I am a freelancer who shoots in 1080i and 720p using a JVC 700 U camera with really good glass. in a small market. So bringing the media in is a piece of cake. I do not see me going to 2K or 4k anytime soon. I produce a weekly hour long sports program and various other projects... training, docs, marketing videos, etc. Very seldom more than 4 streams on the timeline. I have a budget of around $5,000 for a new machine. Here is what I am leaning towards. I would appreciate any advice.
6 core, 32 GB ram, upgrade to D700 GPU's, 512 GB storage. I use two G-Tech 4TB Thunderbolt drives for media. I also have a Thunderbolt display. Any concerns or thoughts? You folks always have great advice so I am looking forward to your opinions.
Cheers,
Tom

Thomas, Just a sugestion…why not also post this in the MP forum, where the emphasis is more on hardware. Not that you might not get some greatanswers here…more to diversify. ((I'd give an opinion if I were more up to speed with the MP…)
Russ

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"I've made a huge mistake." The laments of a new mac pro and ridiculously slow AE renders

I just purchased the late 2013 model of the Mac Pro with the following specs:
Processor: 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5
Memory: 12 GB
Graphics: AMD FirePro D700
It barely squeaks out a faster render than my early 2008 Mac Pro (which has the following specs):
Processor: 2 x 3.2 Ghz Quad Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 16 GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
I obviously did NOT configure my new Mac Pro with the best features for AE CC. I still have time to return the machine, and try again. I would appreciate advice from someone who can ID where I went wrong - and direct me toward a machine that will churn out faster renders. Thanks so much!

Sorry, I'm out of the loop on the newer chipsets so would have to defer to others in that respect. There's a lot of reading to be done on multicore rendering in after effects; but you're best off running some test renders to see if its helping or hindering your comps and then base your decision for number of cores vs core speed on that. Either way multicore rendering does require a lot of RAM. You should be getting OK render speeds if you're not using the ray trace renderer, certainly should beat out the old box, that might be something to look into.
I can't advise using those thunderbolt pcie chasis to add an nvidia card to the new mac pro trash can; the sonnet ones we bought have been finicky with our AJA cards and I can only imagine a full graphics card under load being worse performance wise.
I built my hack a few years back on an ivy bridge i7 with 32 GB of ram. They have some newer guides for hardware choices and methods at http://www.tonymacx86.com/home.php
Although my build has been extremely stable, I will caution that putting together a hackintosh can be quite a pain even if you're an experienced system builder / knowledgable with *nix. If Windows is an option that can be considered, I've heard good things about the HP Z series workstations but Quadro cards seem overpriced IMO compared to the Geforce series for the cuda cores / ram size (though purists will surely encourage you not to go the budget route).

Is it worth the upgrade to a new Mac Pro?

I have a question about the new Mac Pro. I have a 1st Generation Mac Pro (the one released in 2006). I primarily use it to do a lot of motion graphics and video editing/effects. I use Final Cut Pro, Motion (I have FCS 2), After Effects, Cinema 4D, etc. Would it be worth upgrading to the newer Mac Pro? Would I notice much difference in rendering speeds, working with 3D, etc?
My current Mac Pro has 5 GB of Ram, and the NVidia GeForce 8800 GT graphics card; 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Processors
I'm really debating on selling my Mac Pro and purchase one of the 2009 Mac Pros but only if I would really notice much of an overall difference.
Thanks in advance for any answers and input!

Hi, it really depends on what you plan to do with the computer. If running windows in 64 bit mode is a worry for you, then I would trade your 2006 for at least a 2008 mac pro. The Harpertown mac pros are still considered by many just as fast as the 2009, if not faster in some things. Remember, it is hyper threading that gives the 2009 their power and the speed of 1066mhz DDR3 memory.
If you plan on just using the mac pro for light video editing and encoding and using pro apps, the 2008 mac pro will be more than enough. I had a 2006 mac pro going from a G5 Quad. Once I found out that I really enjoy running windows on it and the thought of a new cinema display, I decided to trade my 2006 for the 2008. Sometime in the next few years, I will then trade up my harpertown for the Nehalem mac pro and so forth.
You are right! very few people these days have 2000+ dollars to spend outright on a computer, but I got a great deal on my 2006 trade which was 1850 - the 2008 3.0 harpertown for 2300.00

Where is the best shop for new mac pro's memory in America ?

Dear all.
Thank you for your advice in advance.
I bought new mac pro at yesterday. But here is japan,so really expensive new mac pro's memory.
So I want to buy memory at America by internet.
If you know where is the best shop for this memory's price and stability,please let me know.
Really thank you for your advice. I want to buy 16G in now.

I bought a "8GB FULLY BUFFERED PC6400 DDR2 ECC (FB-DIMM) 800MHz SPECIAL APPLE KIT (Four modules 2GB) MB194G/A" from Memoryamerica.com for $395.
killer deal.works perfectly, no overheating , no issues.
They shipped the sameday. they say on their website that they are the only website shipping the new memory.It must be true, people who ordered from OWC, macsales are still waiting...I am happy I ordered from them.They even have the 4GB modules in stock.These guys are really good.
http://store.memoryamerica.com/fully-buffered-pc6400-ddr2-ecc-8gb-apple-kit.html

Prepare the drool cloths! New Mac Pro will make Aperture SCREEEAAAAMMMM!!!

Shipping TODAY
New Mac Pro
1.6 -2.1 faster than current PPC Quad
2.6 Ghz dual DuoCore
256 MB ram
Superdrive
$2499
All quad, up to 3ghz
Up to 16 GB memory
Up to 2 TB SATA internal storage with FOUR internal drive bays
4 PCI Express slots
Graphics up to radeon x1900 or FX4500
HOLY SMOKES!!!

Looks like a nice machine.
Bit dissapointed with the graphics options though - in the PC world you can get dual on one card Nvidia 7950GX2 cards which would absolutely destroy anything you can get for this machine.
I wonder if you could just buy a Radeon 1900XTX card and pop it in, if it would use the same drivers as the XT card.
On the memory front does anyone know if it NEEDS ECC RAM? ECC ram is hideously expensive and I'd really want 4gb for aperture.
CPU looks great and is actually very well priced, the Xeon's are very expensive chips.
notice also the tech specs for the screens have increased, and prices dropped.

Alt key switching documents instead of Creating Clipping Mask - New Mac Pro 2014 - Please help

I just got a new Mac Pro, and when I use the alt/option key as a shortcut in the layers palette (to create clipping masks and duplicate layers) instead it switches to other documents that I have open. It's only after this happened that I realized how often I use the option key in my work flow and it's frustrating.
Please help,
Thanks,
Lonno

Just solved it. It had to do with my secondary monitor, which is where my layers palette was. I used this link:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5476222?tstart=0
and turned off all the mission control settings I don't use. Apparently it was switching monitors whenever I used the alt key.
-Lonno

Serious Problem with New Mac Pro! Please help!!

Ok, long story short.
My Mac pro keeps crashing after I installed the latest 05-2007 security update. It seems to crash everytime I come back to the computer after the screensaver has been on for a while (its not the screensaver though) I reinstalled the newer v1.1 version of the update and I thought the problem had gone, but it hasnt as the computer just crashed again.
I cannot see any correlation to any other programs, and im 99% sure its not a hardware issue. It does not seem to relate to parallels, or the screensaver, or itunes, or anything!
And there is another crazy thing, when the computer restarts, it says that it recovered from a serious error and asks you to sumit a report, so i click the send report button and do you see a normal report window with all the code ? NO!!! Press report and the initial window just DISAPPEARS, nothing else happens!!! i.e it wont send the but to apple!! no wonder they haven't fixed it!!!
The history of the panic log is always the same error:
Tue Jun 5 19:29:24 2007
panic(cpu 3 caller 0x003BDEB0): OSObject::refcount: Attempting to retain a freed object
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x4c543bb8 : 0x128d08 (0x3cb134 0x4c543bdc 0x131de5 0x0)
0x4c543bf8 : 0x3bdeb0 (0x3f0f94 0x3f0f70 0x160f5ba4 0xad319c0)
0x4c543c18 : 0x3c0d3b (0x160f5ba0 0x4ae958 0x28 0x3c09c4)
0x4c543c48 : 0x3c0e94 (0x13c58c40 0xad319c0 0x0 0x3c10ef)
0x4c543c68 : 0x3c188a (0xad319c0 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x4c543ca8 : 0x3c18f7 (0xad319c0 0x13c3a100 0x13c36b00 0x1628d8)
0x4c543ce8 : 0x38663c (0xad14840 0x0 0x4c543d28 0x3c1002)
0x4c543d08 : 0x389e5b (0xad02080 0xff7da80 0x0 0xad02080)
0x4c543d28 : 0x3b1448 (0xad02080 0xff7da80 0x4c543d58 0x3bdfd9)
0x4c543d78 : 0x188511 (0xad02080 0x14da63b4 0x14da63c8 0x11cc32)
0x4c543db8 : 0x12b4c3 (0x14df20b4 0x14da6398 0x0 0x0)
0x4c543df8 : 0x124b17 (0x14df2000 0x0 0x18 0x4c543edc)
0x4c543f08 : 0x195a42 (0x4c543f44 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x4c543fc8 : 0x19b21e (0xb101f20 0x0 0x19e0b5 0xb101f20) No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb011e508
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.9.2: Thu Feb 22 18:08:23 PST 2007; root:xnu-792.19.2~1/RELEASE_I386
Please help someone!

Did you read the thread on Security Update 2007-005?
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New Macbook Pro advice please

I'm in the market for a new MBP. Man I'd love to snag one of those snazy new jobs but I just don't have the money for it right now Currently I'm running a 15inch mid 2010 model. This model can only handle 8 gig of ram and does not have the hi rez display. This issues I'm having are pretty much the norm, machine is running slower then I can work with. My job does not require me to have a graphic art level machine for I do more BI type work. That being said I do run various VM's which are starting to pull down the performance of my machine. These could be VM's hosted in VirtualBox or Java based VM's. I'm running a few copies of Tomcat all the time and really just needs something that can handle crunching the numbers and power these applications. So what I'm thinking is having the 16gig of ram would offer the space I need to run more apps in memory and limit some of the paging. Also getting a SSD should help increase the IO transfer quite a bit. My only concern is this, would a MBP like this be better then just getting a lower end new MBP? I can get the one I linked with 16gig of ram and a small 120gig SSD for around $1600. Still not chump change but something I can handle a little more. For that price, would getting a new MBP be the better option? Thing is, it's not like I can upgrade that new version MBP down the road at all with a faster chip or video card. I'm still stuck with it and if it's not really much better then the referb I might think about going that direction. Could really use some advice from folks that know more about the versions of these MBP's and their performance. I hope I gave enough information so you understand my needs but if you need more please let me know and I'll get that up here. Thank you very much!

Let me put in my 2¢...
I would not buy a Retina machine at this time (seems that you've come to that conclusion, too). Instead, I would go shopping for a refurb mid-2012 non-Retina 15" model. You'll be able to upgrade the RAM to 16GB, install a SSD in it (and SSD prices are falling right now) and it should serve you well for a good 3-5 years. There haven't been any complaints here about that particular model and, although Apple will likely introduce new MacBook Pros this year, I'm sitting on the edge of my wheelchair wondering if the 'open' architecture of the non-Retina models will be in the new line-up (or not).
I would make sure that you get the model with a 1GB video card (something that I regret that I didn't order with my 2011 model) and the fastest processor that you can afford.
Good luck. Call back with any questions.
Clinton

Take 45s to boot a brand new Mac Pro

Hi Mac Pro folks
I just got a brand new Mac Pro running Mountain Lion. It came with a 512MB SSD as the boot disk and a 2TB disk as the second drive. What I got confused is: after powering it on, the Mac Pro takes average 45s to boot to the white screen with an Apple logo.
This is actually the second Mac Pro, the previous one having the same configuration took 30 seconds to boot. As the previous one's second drive got clicking sound from the first day, Apple replaced the whole machine. Now the clicking sound has gone, but the second Mac Pro takes an even longer time to boot from SSD.
Is it normal? Has anyone ever experienced the same thing?
Thanks for any comments.
Regards,
B

It should be Apple genuine SSD, as the 512 MB SSD comes with the new Mac Pro. Please see below its information retreived from System Report. TRIM Support is enabled.
Intel ICH10 AHCI:
Vendor:    Intel
Product:    ICH10 AHCI
Link Speed:    3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed:    3 Gigabit
Description:    AHCI Version 1.20 Supported
APPLE SSD SM512E:
Capacity:    500.28 GB (500,277,790,720 bytes)
Model:    APPLE SSD SM512E
Revision:    CXM07A1Q
Native Command Queuing:    Yes
Queue Depth:    32
Removable Media:    No
Detachable Drive:    No
BSD Name:    disk0
Medium Type:    Solid State
TRIM Support:    Yes
Bay Name:    Bay 1
Partition Map Type:    GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:    Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity:    209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name:    disk0s1
Content:    EFI
MACPRO_SSD:
Capacity:    499.42 GB (499,418,034,176 bytes)
Available:    175.82 GB (175,817,490,432 bytes)
Writable:    Yes
File System:    Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:    disk0s2
Mount Point:    /
Content:    Apple_HFS
Recovery HD:
Capacity:    650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)
BSD Name:    disk0s3
Content:    Apple_Boot
This is a Mac Pro 5,1 so I would expect it should take less than 10 seconds to boot.
Moreover, the SSD is the only startup device under Startup Disk.
It seems the only PCI card is the ATI Radeon HD 5770 that comes with the system.
ATI Radeon HD 5770:
Name:    ATY,Hoolock
Type:    Display Controller
Driver Installed:    Yes
MSI:    Yes
Bus:    PCI
Slot:    Slot-1
Vendor ID:    0x1002
Device ID:    0x68b8
Subsystem Vendor ID:    0x106b
Subsystem ID:    0x00cf
Revision ID:    0x0000
Link Width:    x16
Link Speed:    5.0 GT/s
The hatter wrote:
Probably trying to use a 512MB boot device?
No it should take 10 seconds. That is what my SSD on Mac Pro 1,1.
PCIe cards can affect booting, especially if you boot from one.
3rd party SSD or not? \
firmware is current?
SSD is set to default startup disk control panel?
You've done ML Recovery and checked the SSD twice: the top of the drive to check partitions, the user volume to check the system directory.
If it is 3rd party what make?
Does it show TRIM is enabled in SATA entry in System Profile?
What else is installed.
Does not sound normal to me to replace anything except the hard drive for clicking, and then to just zero the drive.
I would never pay for disk drive from Apple when there are better prices and as good devices.

In need of a new Mac Pro, which one?

In the market for a new Mac Pro, mainly for CS5 apps, an ocassional Final Cut project and some Modo rendering (simple work). My Mac is an early 2008 2.8 GHz 8 core with 10 gigs of RAM, rock solid performance and trouble free and I'm looking to buy a new one within the next week. The 4 core 2.8 appeals to me for the lower price, but inclined for the 8 core, is the $1,000 difference between 4 and 8 core woth it? The 4 core has a faster processor, so I would assume that the difference in speed is basically a non-issue for the work I do, am I right? On the other hand, I rather get the 4 core with at least 12 gigs of ram, since most apps don't take advantage of 8 cores.
Need opinions and suggestions and if someone has a link for performance comparisons test between the two, would be appreciated, can't find any.

Not everyone, but more than a few, swear by SSD making their Mac run smooth and faster all around.
You are rather low on RAM for any real strong CS5 use.
Your Mac can boot into 64-bit kernel, too. Read up on that on MPG and along with 24GB pays 15% dividends.
And you can take advantage of 5870 or 5770 as well as Quadro 4000 ($789 PNY Quadro for Mac on Amazon, versus $1195 on Apple Store). 5770 + 4000 is $1050 investment.
You 'should' be using say 3 x 2-3TB enterprise version drives. And 120-240GB SSD $600.
Intel 3.2GHz Harpertown (Penryn) 5400s are probably not cost effective and seems the highest MHz you can go.
I go with coffee can, create an account to go towards the next system. Put X-amount aside each month and only buy on cash or your business pays for itself in six months.
The real hard part comes when a new model comes out, knowing the first 3 months are often rough and best to hold off, wait, read the reviews and reports. And know that buying that while today you could 'down grade' to Snow Leopard, the next time you can't and it takes time to optimize all the drivers and software that a workstation is more likely to need.
If you have $3.5K burning a hole, then the ref'd 2.8 and optimize "the heck" out of it, with W3680 and everything else, and then sell yours later too for $1500 probably.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC560LL/A
Your 8-core 2,8 is not yet ready to retire!

Buying a new mac pro, new things to consider?

Hello all,
Below is the question I posted in may along with someone's response. I'm wondering if I should still go with the response I received considering the new release of the mac pro 12 core. Did anything change that I need to note in my purchase or is the below response suitable? THANKS!!!!!
my question:
I need some help in choosing the right specs for my mac pro. I am looking for a computer that will help me in running my small business and keep my art portfolio organized. I'll probably be running several programs at a time (ex. mozilla, itunes, adobe bridge, dreamweaver, illustrator, and photoshop). More specifics below
What i'll be using it for:
building a few websites
managing my small business
large photo file editing
keeping business files, artist receipts, etc
cataloging my art portfolio (large photo files)
storing photos, music, and short videos
graphic design
infrequent film editing
infrequent sound editing
what programs i'll be using:
CS5 (mostly photoshop, illustrator, bridge, dreamweaver)
iphoto
itunes
maybe minimal finalcut/soundtrack pro
maybe minimal aftereffects
Advice?
My concerns are that it needs to run pretty smoothly with multiple programs open, no overheating, plenty of space for file storage and application support.
Hello washleyill,
My advice would be to buy the standard configuration 2.66GHz Quad Core (i.e. 3 x 1GB RAM, 640GB hard drive) from the Apple store, with the exception of the graphics card which you can buy as a CTO option for $200.00. It is well worth the upgrade from the GT120 - I know, because I upgraded myself last November after using a GT120 for 4 months.
With regard to the memory, if you can afford it now, buy 4 x 4GB from OWC now. If not, I would suggest that you buy 2 x 4GB now, and then add another 2 x 4GB in the future. 16GB of RAM is a much better option than 8GB for your requirements. You can sell the 3 x 1GB RAM to OWC in "part exchange", and there would be little difference in price for 2 x 4GB to the CTO option of 4 x 2GB.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Mac-Pro-Memory#1066-memory
Instead of buying 2 x 1TB hard drives as a CTO option, you could purchase 2 x 1.5TB or 2 x 2TB HDDs for less money, and you would still have the 640GB. Spare drives are always useful. I use my original 640GB as a spare emergency system boot drive (OS and applications) in an external enclosure.
Another alternative is to wait a few more weeks, in case the rumours of the introduction of a new Mac Pro range in June have any foundation.
Regards,
Bill

Interesting questions you have posed here.
I am thinking about upgrading from my MB to a MBP and I too intend to run a similar set of programs, and with large RAW photo files in Aperture. I find my MB is struggling and I dont want to invest any money in upgrading it, I will use it as a back up. I like the MBP and the 13" screen version is so handy and portable.
Have you made your decision yet...or are you still sitting on the fence like myself..?
Regards
Paul

Can I run two 2560x1440 monitors (dual link DVI) on a new Mac Pro?

I have two Monoprice Zero-G IPS monitors, which can run at resolutions of 2560x1440 using a dual-link DVI adapter. This is what I am currently using on my old 2008 Mac Pro.
If i get a new model Mac Pro, could I continue this arrangement at the max resolution by using two Thunderbolt/Minidisplay port to Dual link DVI adapters (and, I assume, using two of the USB ports as I do now)?
Frankly, I dont need the power of a new Mac Pro but my old one is long in the tooth. I'd get a retina Macbook and use it as my desktop, but I cant think of any way to run both monitors at full resolution on the Macbook Pro. I dont want to run them at HDMI resolution.
Thanks in advance!

Adapters go from $9 to $54, the latter having heat-sink which is not needed in an open cMP.
Some support both as in either or but not two at the same time, SATA interface on the PCIe afapter, or an M.2 type
While other PCIe "solutions" exist they are not OS independent or machine, the XP941 suffers from none of those concerns as it is bootable in all Mac Pro 1,1 thru 5,1, and is the only one for 200-7 models (and 2008 are iffy) so you can 'take it with you' if you move to a new cMP.
Old controller, you need two SSDs in RAID0 to get 900MB/sec writes.
Does not appear to be any of the real issues of PCIe slot and bus master, outside of you would exclude the 1x slot in the 2006 of course!
The hardest part? getting these tiny M.2 blades, which are ~ 1" x 3.25" and have a tiny screw, on the PCIe adapter.
250GB SSD today are ~$120 + many do want SATA III PCIe (to get 550MB/sec and allow continued use of 4 x SATA II drive bays) runs ~$80-299. In some cases you then need a 2nd SSD. So if you want speed (vs size) then $240 + $100 and the $300 for XP941 256GB isn't bad.
Finally, look for an Apple blade on ebay if running Yosemite - they vary, some are 2x (slow) M.2s and you want 4x but any are probably 700MB/sec and cost $400-700. No need with Apple part to worry about TRIM.
Comparing 128GB SATA II $83 + $15 adapter vs PCIe XP941 128GB $140 + $24 is a 'toss-up' in cost but not performance, and one frees up drive bay and uses PCIe slot. (Generally 250GB are faster and better, the 128GB use to have 135MB/sec writes and $40 extras for 550MB and double storage makes sense, you never want an SSD to get down to 20% free, and you want to have 11% set aside for over-provisioning).
So in a way you can get 1000MB/sec like nMP for $175-300 in any Mac Pro, and new faster blades are on the horizon offering 1400MB/sec.
Kind of amazing, that M.2 support is in that old EFI all along waiting

Help with buying a new Mac Pro

Hi all,
I'm currently in the market for a new Mac Pro, as I seem to be stretching the boundaries of what my MBP can do in a reasonable amount of time. After reading these forums for a while, I still have some questions/concerns about my needs that I hope someone can answer.
I will be using the Mac Pro for web development (CS4 and CS5 down the road), video editing on FCE, and possibly audio work in the future. I'm about to graduate college and am still somewhat unsure if I will be using more powerful software in the immediate future. One other thing, I tend to have a bunch of apps open at once (Mail, Safari, FF, VMWare, MSOffice, iCal, etc.), and I don't want to have to close them all out to get decent speeds when rendering video. I currently don't use any "Pro" apps (FCP/LogicPro), but I haven't ruled them out for future use.
Would I be better suited with the 2.66 Quad (possibly 2.93) or with a 2.26 Octo? I'm concerned the Quad would have a much shorter life with the 4 RAM slot limitation, but paying for the Octo and leaving a bunch of cores idle would not be ideal either. I'm planning on buying before SL release, because I want to be able to install it on my own terms.
Any input appreciated,
Ty

I think the quad has a lot of potential and even with 'only' 16GB RAM (4 x 4GB) you shouldn't be hurting.
Nothing you listed should be a significant bottleneck. And if that day comes, there will be equally more powerful bass level systems.
Most of the non-intense apps will only use a small small fraction of your resources. The 2.66 is nice and will throttle up or down as needed, and just surfing etc run @ 1.6GHz. iTunes for now is 'out of control' and buggy.
Q: you want to buy now also to use your student discount I assume.
Check these Store Specials for price / config
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_pro

Old AJA KONA card into new Mac Pro.

Hi all
At the company where I am doing some editing, there oldest suite was run on a G5. Suddenly it started to turn itself off. After taking it into an apple store for repair they quite quickly turned around and said "This is an old G5 we can't repair it, but we will replace the machine with a new Mac Pro, for the price of the repair". Great!
However the the KONA LHe card that it was using looks like a normal PCI interface (or PCI-X), and it seems apple have done away with this, as this new model contains only PCIe slots. Is there a way of making it work? Does anyone know if apple do a spec with a PCI slot now? Is this KONA card completely useless now?
I know what the likely answer is, just thought i'd put the discussion out there.
Neil

Sorry Shane. I did mean LH.
I always thought the card in the machine was a LHe card, so when the G5 starting turning itself off unexpectadly, and Apple couldn't repair it, they gave us a new machine for the price of the repair, I thought it would still be fine as the card is an LHe. I didn't know that it was an older model and the earlier generation Kona Cards were PCI-X.
Hey now I know the what e stands for at least. Although in the context of this company the Kona LH card is pretty much Obsolete!
Thanks for comments.

I have a brand new Mac Pro Tower that continually kicks me off the internet and sometimes starts up not connecting to the internet?

My brand new Mac Pro Tower that I spent a small fortune on sometimes boots up and does not connect to the internet when every other computer in my office does and other times it just kicks me straight off. My question is, is there a problem with the wi fi on these machines?

Brand new nMP Mac Pro 6,1 Late 2013.... and it is defective - the older silver tower might be easier to find parts but at least it is not 65 lbs and is something that can be taken in - which I think you really need to do.
When you run etrecheck from www.etresoft.com it can show what is installed, drivers and might help point to something on software side.
Grant is the go-to person here I think among others for networking issues.
Airport Express and signal strength, channel it is trying to use, whether the Network control panel settings are "correct" or need to be changed (even the order, what it is trying to look for and use).
If you move it to another spot or put another computer over in that general vicinity...? behaves the same.
I recall reading where the MacBook Pro model in 2012? and switched to a new chipset and some very long (huge) threads in their forum - which means also there was no real solution given.
No, should not be. And other than network tests would be booting into Apple DiagnosticsTest mode - pulls down from Apple servers.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5781

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