Purchasing a 2011 new or refurb iMac vs new 2012?

Hi All,
It is time to finally upgrade my old iMac. I waited for the new 2012 model to come out. Now that I have read up on it and see there is no cd/dvd optical drive(which I use quite a bit) I wonder if I am better off trying to find a mid 2011 iMac as they still have it built in?
Would the Apple stores still have the 2011 model? I know I can by a stand alone optical drive but questioning which way would be the better option.
Thanks in Advance.

Another reason I would go for a refurb is if the glass on the new machine gets damaged its a whole new screen, and that is glued to the body as mentioned. The previous model has a seperate glass (I think its glass) screen over the LCD display panel, and that can be removed with a suction cups, its only held on by magnets and thats going to be far quicker and easier than replacing a new 2012 models one. Also the fact that if you plug a USB 2 device into a USB 3 port first on the new 2012 iMacs they then become limited to USB 2 speeds is a bit odd and current iPads and iPhones are USB 2. Also the SD card slot is on the side under the optical drive, not on the back. I would personally go for a refurb mid 2011. If you find a i7 model the performnce difference would not be really that noticable in day to day use, dont let bragging rights or Geek Bench scores fool you, Ivy Bridge is more of an incremental update. Intels tick where as Sandy bridge was the Tock. The next worthwhile CPU upgrade will be Haswell.

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panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff8000301702): "new_vnode: vp (0xffffff801f93a078) on RAGE list not marked VLIST_RAGE"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1699.26.8/bsd/vfs/vfs_subr.c:3546
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0xffffff80e87bb960 : 0xffffff80004f1f7d
0xffffff80e87bbb20 : 0xffffff80005041db
0xffffff80e87bbb50 : 0xffffff80004d4c8f
0xffffff80e87bbc00 : 0xffffff80004d3eda
0xffffff80e87bbe10 : 0xffffff8000319293
0xffffff80e87bbe70 : 0xffffff800030613c
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