Purchasing a 2011 refurb iMac vs new 2012

I am in the market for a desktop and could use some assistance.  I have been researching refurbished iMac for the past 4 months and watching the inventory on the store.  I have been mainly targeting the 21" iMac 1TB at the $1,189 price point.  After a very "green" Christmas I am now thinking that going new might be a better option.  I know they don't currenty have the refurb in stock but would love to get a couple opinions on refurb vs. new from the forum to help my decision making process. As for what I will be using it for...my wife does some light Adobe CS work but mostly home photo and video editing.  The 17" Macbook Pro 250GB we have now does a nice job but hard drive is nearly full and is getting a bit slow in its old age (2007).  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
2011 Refurb $1,358 with AppleCare
2012 New $1,547 with AppleCare and Superdrive

slvrch8017 wrote:
Thanks Mende1!  I appreciate your input.  I am definitely leaning towards the new.  Do you believe the improvement in hardware of the mid 2011 vs late 2012 to be higher than the $200 price difference?   The only thing really holding me back from the new is that if I can save some cash and get a comparable product I could put the extra $ towards software.  We have Office, Adobe, Final Cut, etc on our old Macbook that I would like to put on the new desktop but I don't believe that I have additional licenses on any of them so I would have to buy new. 
I'm pretty sure that the difference in hardware between them is higher than the difference in price.
You have to contact with Adobe and Microsoft about the licenses. With Final Cut, you shouldn't have any problem

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