Purpose of Retention Policy Recovery Window and Redundancy

Hi,
Good Evening,
I have some queries regarding the RMAN Retention Policy Recovery Window and Redundancy.
1. Any condition is there to set the Retention Policy Recovery Window and Redundancy and control_file_record_keep_time?What is the relationship between these 3 parameters?
2. Explain the scenario if i set the control_file_record_keep_time=4 Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7?
3. If i set the Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7 means my backup place only have 3 copies of backup based on the redundancy then what is the purpose of Recovery Window=7 please give some example.
4. If i change the values for Recovery Window=3 and Redundancy=7 what will happened, how many days backup will be available in my FRA location?Explain with one scenario?
Thanks in advance.
Vijay.

Hi,
Take a look of the above doc contents:
Configuring the Backup Retention Policy
As explained in "Backup Retention Policies", the backup retention policy specifies which backups must be retained to meet your data recovery requirements. This policy can be based on a recovery window or redundancy. Use the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command to specify the retention policy.
so you have option to choose either recovery windows or redundancy based you can set the configuration like
read in the Doc What it said for both:
Recovery Window-Based Retention Policy ==>RMAN does not consider any full or level 0 incremental backup as obsolete if it falls within the recovery window. Additionally, RMAN retains all archived logs and level 1 incremental backups that are needed to recover to a random point within the window.
Redundancy-Based Retention Policy==>The REDUNDANCY parameter of the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command specifies how many full or level 0 backups of each datafile and control file that RMAN should keep. If the number of full or level 0 backups for a specific datafile or control file exceeds the REDUNDANCY setting, then RMAN considers the extra backups as obsolete. The default retention policy is REDUNDANCY 1.
RMAN> show RETENTION POLICY;
using target database control file instead of recovery catalog
RMAN configuration parameters for database with db_unique_name DDTEST are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
RMAN> CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
old RMAN configuration parameters:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
new RMAN configuration parameters:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
RMAN> show RETENTION POLICY;
RMAN configuration parameters for database with db_unique_name DDTEST are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
RMAN> CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
old RMAN configuration parameters:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
new RMAN configuration parameters:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
RMAN> show RETENTION POLICY;
RMAN configuration parameters for database with db_unique_name DDTEST are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME:This parameter applies only to records in the control file that are circularly reusable (such as archive log records and various backup records) ref Doc:CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME
1. Any condition is there to set the Retention Policy Recovery Window and Redundancy and control_file_record_keep_time?What is the relationship between these 3 parameters?
2. Explain the scenario if i set the control_file_record_keep_time=4 Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7?
3. If i set the Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7 means my backup place only have 3 copies of backup based on the redundancy then what is the purpose of Recovery Window=7 please give some example.
4. If i change the values for Recovery Window=3 and Redundancy=7 what will happened, how many days backup will be available in my FRA location?Explain with one scenario?
so i believe you can get the Answer from Your Question from Above details.
HTH

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CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP FORMAT FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO '%F'; # default
CONFIGURE DEVICE TYPE DISK PARALLELISM 1 BACKUP TYPE TO BACKUPSET; # default
CONFIGURE DATAFILE BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE MAXSETSIZE TO UNLIMITED; # default
CONFIGURE ENCRYPTION FOR DATABASE OFF; # default
CONFIGURE ENCRYPTION ALGORITHM 'AES128'; # default
CONFIGURE COMPRESSION ALGORITHM 'BASIC' AS OF RELEASE 'DEFAULT' OPTIMIZE FOR LOA
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CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG DELETION POLICY TO NONE; # default
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MSPRD7.ORA'; # default
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Recovery Manager: Release 11.2.0.3.0 - Production on Mon Jan 20 23:03:12 2014
Copyright (c) 1982, 2011, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
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RMAN> CROSSCHECK ARCHIVELOG ALL;
2> CROSSCHECK BACKUPSET;
3> CROSSCHECK BACKUP;
4> CROSSCHECK COPY;
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Backup Set           1392   15-JAN-14
Backup Piece       1392   15-JAN-14          F:\ORAFRA\MMSPRD7\BACKUPSET\2014_01_15\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20140115T190054_9FG89R8N_.BKP
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Backup Piece       1393   15-JAN-14          F:\ORAFRA\MMSPRD7\BACKUPSET\2014_01_15\O1_MF_ANNNN_TAG20140115T192204_9FG9KDHX_.BKP
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new RMAN configuration parameters:
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RMAN retention policy is set to recovery window of 0 days
no obsolete backups found
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channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00004 name=E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\WIN9I\DRSYS01.DBF
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channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 09-SEP-07
piece handle=E:\ORACLE\ORA92\DATABASE\0CIRHB4Q_1_1 comment=NONE
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Backup Piece       10     09-SEP-07          E:\ORACLE\ORA92\DATABASE\0BIRHB2F_1_1
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backup piece handle=E:\ORACLE\ORA92\DATABASE\0CIRHB4Q_1_1 recid=11 stamp=632859802
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old RMAN configuration parameters:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 0 DAYS;
new RMAN configuration parameters:
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input datafile fno=00004 name=E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\WIN9I\DRSYS01.DBF
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piece handle=E:\ORACLE\ORA92\DATABASE\0DIRHB90_1_1 comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:03
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File Not Found
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2> ;
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channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
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input archive log thread=1 sequence=25 recid=80 stamp=652112650
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channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
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channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
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piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
released channel: ch0
allocated channel: ch1
channel ch1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
released channel: ch1
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           128    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       128    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          79     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC
Archive Log          80     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC recid=128 stamp=652112652
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC recid=79 stamp=652108461
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC recid=80 stamp=652112650
Deleted 3 objects
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch2
channel ch2: sid=146 devtype=DISK
released channel: ch2
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
no obsolete backups found
RMAN>
C:\>dir *.bus
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
04/15/2008 02:24 PM        96,813,056 RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
               1 File(s)     96,813,056 bytes
               0 Dir(s) 61,960,724,480 bytes free
C:\>dir *.arc
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
04/15/2008 02:25 PM            56,832 ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
               1 File(s)         56,832 bytes
               0 Dir(s) 61,960,724,480 bytes free
C:\>
RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7> }
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
input archive log thread=1 sequence=27 recid=82 stamp=652112873
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_135_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=28 recid=83 stamp=652112925
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_136_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112928_408XBKCZ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
released channel: ch0
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           129    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       129    15-APR-08          C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
Backup Set           130    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       130    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Backup Set           131    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       131    15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP
Backup Set           132    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       132    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          81     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_26_408X3HRP_.ARC
Archive Log          82     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_27_408X8RXN_.ARC
RMAN>Note: i have archivelog which is at FRA ,it also apply there and as well yours own defined backupsets path.
Yours comments are wellcome.
http://oraware.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-i-use-retention-policy-without.htmlKhurram

Hmmm, I can't see where the confusion originates. The table near the bottom of www.apple.com/timecapsule/specs.html has one row labelled "For backup using Time Machine" and another row labelled "For AirPort Disk with a USB hard drive".
The requirement for backup via Time Machine is OS 10.5.1 or better. Time Machine is not supported in pre-Leopard (OS 10.5) nor in Windows.
The requirement for using Time Capsule as a remote disk is identified as "Mac with Mac OS X v10.4.8 or later" or "PC with Windows XP (SP2) or Windows Vista; Bonjour for Windows (included on Time Capsule CD)".
Doesn't that pretty much spell out that Time Capsule works as a network drive without the need for Time Machine?
Also Joe (the OP) never indicated any desire to use it with Windows so I'm not sure why all the discussion about Windows compatibility. ??
Also the quote posted by Henry seems pretty clear:
"Time Capsule with Time Machine in Leopard is the ideal backup solution. But that doesn’t mean Tiger, Windows XP, and Windows Vista users can’t enjoy the benefits of Time Capsule, too. Because it mounts as a wireless hard drive, Tiger and Windows users simply access Time Capsule directly from the wireless network for exchanging and storing files quickly and easily."

Retention policy for archivelogs in the flash recovery area

I am using the flash recovery area for all my backup files (archive logs, data and control files). I want to use the redundancy retention policy because it is easy to calculate the space requirement. However, I am not clear how the retention policy applies to archive logs.
Say I set the retention policy to be "keeping 3 backups". How does it affect the archive logs? Will archive logs in the flash recovery area be deleted automatically or I need to do it manually. If they are deleted automatically just like dataset files, what is the "retention policy" for them? I do not have a tape device so all archive logs are going to be stay in disk.
Thanks.

I am using the flash recovery area for all my backup
files (archive logs, data and control files). I want
to use the redundancy retention policy because it is
easy to calculate the space requirement. However, I
am not clear how the retention policy applies to
archive logs.
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 2;
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> list backup
2> ;
RMAN>AS documentation says
"Besides affecting datafile and control file backups, the retention policy affects archived logs and archived log backups.
First, RMAN decides which datafile and control file backups are obsolete. Then, RMAN considers as obsolete all archived
log backups that are older than the oldest datafile or control file backup that must be retained."
Now i connect to SQL and create two big table for filling the redo log file and then get it archived.Please
consider it here that i am getting archived before any taking backup i.e backup database in order to make
archive older then the oldest datafile.
SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
SQL> create table a1 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
SQL> create table a2 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
03/17/2008 03:44 PM    <DIR>          .
03/17/2008 03:44 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/17/2008 03:44 PM         9,750,528 O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC
               1 File(s)      9,750,528 bytes
               2 Dir(s) 62,714,875,904 bytes free
Now i take backup
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Archive Log          402    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARCYou can see the obsolete archived files which is the older then the oldest file which has been obsolete.It also
does'nt make sense to keep the archived log files which is older then the oldest file cause it will no longer
be useful for recovery process.
now back to pavillion
RMAN> delete obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
using channel ORA_DISK_1
Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Archive Log          402    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC
Do you really want to delete the above objects (enter YES or NO)? yes
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELO
G\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC recid=402 stamp=649611842
Deleted 1 objects
RMAN> delete backup
2> ;
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> list backup
2> ;
C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
03_17
03/17/2008 03:59 PM    <DIR>          .
03/17/2008 03:59 PM    <DIR>          ..
               0 File(s)              0 bytes
               2 Dir(s) 62,724,440,064 bytes freenow this time what i did i created the archived log files after first backup in order to not to make it older
then the oldest datafile backup.
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups foundnow i come to at SQL and make redo log file filled by creating 2 big tables in order to get it archived
SQL> create table a3 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
SQL> create table a4 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
03_17
03/17/2008 04:09 PM    <DIR>          .
03/17/2008 04:09 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/17/2008 04:09 PM         9,751,552 O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
               1 File(s)      9,751,552 bytes
               2 Dir(s) 62,563,205,120 bytes free
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups foundYou can see no archived logs get obsolete yet cause the archivelog O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
is not older then oldest datafile backup.
But this archivelog file will get obsolete if its beyond the retention policy,lest see how ,just take one more
backup ,as i have already taken two time backup and the moment i go to take third backup it will cross ours
retetnion policy from the period of 2.
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           240    17-MAR-08
Backup Piece       231    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN4WTB_.B
KP
Backup Set           241    17-MAR-08
Backup Piece       232    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NCSNF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN6Z95_.B
KP
Archive Log          403    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARCKhurram

Retention Policy and Managed folder based retention

What is difference between "Retention Policy/ Policy Tags" and " Managed Content Settings"?
In my setup , my managed folder folder become general folder after following steps
1. Created Managed folder
2. Created managed content settings for IPM.post and IPM.Appointment with retention action "Delete and Allow recovery".
3. Created managed policy and applied to 1 mailbox, and this is working properly
But After that,
1. Created 3 retention tags(1 for inbox, 1 for sent, 1 personal).
2. Created retention policy combining these 3 tags.
3. Applied to SAME mailbox
4. Ran 'ManagedFolderAssitant'
**After this, Managed folder become general outlook folder.
So, cant I have "Managed folder based retention for managed folders" and General retention for "Inbox,Sent"

Exchange 2010 RTM introduced Retention Policies as the successor to the Message Records Management (MRM) technology introduced in Exchange 2007. MRM was the successor to Mailbox Manager Policies in Exchange 2003. Message Records Management is called MRM
1.0 and Retention Policies is being called MRM 2.0 for short. MRM 1.0 as well as MRM 2.0 are both available in Exchange 2010. Only difference is we can manage Retention Policies from the EMC and EMS, but the Managed Folder Mailbox Policy is only Managed from
the EMS through cmdlets in Exchange 2010 SP1.
It completely depends on your requirements when to use MRM 1.0 and when to Use MRM 2.0.
Certain new features are added in MRM 2.0 (Retention Policy) which allow us to manage our mailbox email items at very granular level. But if we are still happy with earlier version MRM 1.0 then we can continue using Managed folder mailbox
Policy in Exchange 2010.
[ Note: If we are Using the Retention Policy (MRM 2.0) then we can view the expiry of each and every email items of the folders on which the retention Policy is tagged and this can be only view from OWA and Outlook 2010, But this feature
is not available for Managed Folder Mailbox Policy (MRM 1.0) ]
We cannot use the Base Folder only switch in MRM 2.0 because it is TAG specific (DPT, RPT, and PPT) not Managed Folder specific.
Managed folder Mailbox Policy is folder specific this would be the major difference.
Refer to this link :
Retention policies vs Managed folders

"Permanently Delete" fail in outlook client after setting up the "Archive and Retention Policy" in Exchange 2010

In Exchange 2010 server, we have setup a policy under "Default Archive and Retention Policy" as all messages under "Inbox", "Sent Items" and "Deleted Items" will be Permanently Delete after X months.
However, one of our client found that some of the email messages was still found under his "Deleted Items". All other email messages under her outlook client (2010) were successfully deleted according to the policy.
Is there any reason for this exception?
Thank you

Hi,
Based on your description, you created retention policy tags for Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted Items folders. Then you linked them to the default archive and retention policy
Default Archive and Retention Policy.
Please check if this issue affects all users.
Please create a different retention policy which is associated with these retention tags, and apply this policy to a test user to check result.
Best regards,
Belinda Ma
TechNet Community Support

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