PUSH MAIL VS PUSH NOTIFICATION - BATTERY CONSUMPTION

I have a question. Today, we have the option to use PUSHMAIL application which uses APPLE PUSH NOTIFICATION SERVICES or to use PUSH MAIL CAPABLE EMAIL accounts such as Exchange, Yahoo or MSGPUSH.COM in order to get pushmail on the iphone.
Which is more BATTERY consuming? a push email account or and push notification application?
Regards,
Hernán

Alright boys and girls of the forum I think it's reasonably safe at this point to conclude that the whole battery drainage situation I've been having with the 2 iPhones at our office is caused by the push feature. With it turned off and the iPhones on an hourly fetch setup only 1/3 of the battery is used at the day end with moderate use.
It makes sense that push would drain significantly more power from the battery but still it doesn't make the situation less disappointing. The ideal iPhone would probably have to last longer with push enabled than it currently does but I'm sure that push is still a trade most people can do without when an hourly fetch is readily available.
Many thanks for your contributions.
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