PXE Boot/Ip helper address for staging OS-es

Hi,
In our production environment there is already a PXE-server SCCM 2007. Now, we're setting up an SCCM 2012-server which we would like to test staging/OS-deployment also.
Is it safe to say we need to add the ip  of the SCCM 2012 "066 Boot Server Host Name" to stage. Note: on switches (Cisco) this is ip helper address,  correct?
Please clarify.
NOTE: is there an option to make it work WITHOUT needing a new VLAN?
J.
Jan Hoedt

DHCP options and IP helper addresses have the same end goal but are completely different things.
IP Helpers automatically forward broadcast requests to a destination system thus "bridging" subnets for services like DHCP and PXE.
DHCP scope options directly instruct the NIC to boot from a specific PXE server.
So, yes, it is possible to manipulate where a client PXE boots from, but it takes an integral understanding of how PXE works, of how IP Helpers work, and of how NICs initiate a PXE boot when either IP Helpers or DHCP scope options are in place (and
thus DHCP also). Because *none* of this really has anything to do with ConfigMgr or even Microsoft itself, there really is no Microsoft guidance except that IP Helpers are preferred and are the Microsoft supported solution. A great starting reference
is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment
Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com
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