PXI 6602 shared DIO Counter lines

Hi,
I have a question regarding the PXI-6602. From the manual I see that some of its PFI channels are shared. If I wanted to use a counter to generate a timed pulse. Can I use the associated gate and source PFI as digital output lines without affecting the counter?
Here's a concrete example: Let's say I'm using the counter 7 to generate a timed pulse on PFI 8 which is the CTR OUT. Can I simultaneously use PFI 10, which is listed in the manual as having possible signals CTR 7 Gate and P0.10, as a digital output? Can I simultaneously use PFI 11, which is listed in the manual as having possible signals CTR 7 Source and P0.11, as a digital output?
Thank you!

Hi,
Take a look at this example related to routing counter signals through the RTSI lines.
http://www.ni.com/example/27109/en/
Reference Table:
http://zone.ni.com/reference/en-XX/help/370466W-01/mxdevconsid/tiosigconcounters/
Luis S
Application Engineer
National Instruments

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Thanks for contacting National Instruments.
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To me, the pinout is pretty clear so yes, the PFI lines and P1,P2 are related.
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