QaaWS vs Live Office as datasource for Xcelsius

Hi,
We can create dashboard with BW or Oracle data using Live Office or QaaWS.
Best practice document called for QaaWS.
Does anyone know why?
I know we can do both, but just don't know what's the reason for using QaaWS.
Thank you

Hi Patrick,
The real difference you have understand between the QaaWS and Live Office is the method of refreshing data.
Both the data sources use Web services as their source.
Do you know why the differciation is ?
QaaWS fetches the data when request is raised from Xcelsius then dumps the data to Excel.
Where as Lo scenario is different, first we request the data from Xcelsius it passes that to Excel then it refreshes the data from Excel level then we get updated data.
I think you might have noticed many times that when you refresh the live office manually if new rows are added (ar Database) then it creates the new rows in Excel.
Another point you create your live office objects at Excel level and then you import it to Data manager.
Many people get issues with Live office due to below reasons.
1) Changing the Webi report path after importing the LO objects. Such reports throw error when they are refreshed.
2) Sometimes user refreshes the LO objects at Excel level and they directly run the dashboard. This situation also throws error, bcoz the updates made at Excel level are not given to the connection available at Datamanger level (Xcelsius).
We have reimport all the connections again.
3) Never refresh any LO objects manually from Excel when propmts are binded to cells, if they do they loose the prompt bindings.
many more are there but the above are the most important.
Live office has more options than QaaWS. But for simple dashboards the QaaWS is widely.
Regards,
AnjaniKumar C.A.

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A lot of questions
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-Operating System: Windows XP
-OS Patch level: Service Pack 3
-Office Version: 2007
-Flash Player version: 10
-Xcelsius Version and Patch Level: Enterprise 2008 with SP2 (version: 5.2.0.0)
-Xcelsius Build number (Help>About Xcelsius): 12,2,0,608
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Hi Rob,
You can bind cross tab reports from your WebI reports into Xcelsius using an integration tool called[ Xcelsius Web Intelligence Intregration Suite|http://www.antivia.com/products-xcelsius.stm].
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hi amr
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