Qosmio F10 : battery life

I have a Qosmio F10 (2 month old) and am rather disappointed by the battery life.
20mn running on battery at full power yesterday, and the computer was off (3% remaining) ...
Forget watching a DVD on the plane !
I wonder if this is a BIOS issue or if there is any possibility of buying a more powerful battery.
It looks to me as though this computer has been designed to run on a/c power with the batteries bundle in as a secondary power option (short!).
Any comments ?
Also, has any one tried those plane chargers sold in airports ?

Hi
In my opinion you should try to setup your Qosmio for optimum battery usage. To optimize the battery runtime use the Toshiba Power Saver Utility. "TOSHIBA Power Saver" enables management of the power supply according to specific use and also enables the reduction of power consumption of your unit and allows you to use your PC for a longer period when running it on battery power.
You can reduce your PC power consumption mainly during usage by reducing the LCD brightness or CPU processing speed. There are also different sets of power management settings or "profiles" prepared in advance. These profiles are designed to be used in some of the most common user environments. You can use these standard profiles or create your own profiles based on your own custom power management settings.
I am pretty sure that all this settings can help you to use the unit for a longer time. For watching DVDs use DVD playback profile. You can change the profiles using FN+ F2 key combination.

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Hi,
I have a Qosmio F10 which has been bought into me for repair.
It has suffered the common nVidia GPU faliure but is in near mint condition and certainatly too good to scrap.
I have managed to get hold of a brand new OEM Service part motherboard to fit but i don't just want to put it in and then the fault occour down the road.
What id like to know is if there is anything i can do or anyway to modify the laptop to help prevent this happening.
Its not my laptop and i don't really want to start cutting it about to aid with cooling unless it will actually make a difference so has anybody actually found a way to stop it or at least make it last a good few years?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i know the owner is very fond of her laptop and wants to keep it.
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Thanks for the idea but i know all this already.
It is well documented that this is a common fault with this specific laptop and Toshiba had to extend the warranty on this model to replace faulty motherboards.
They ended up re-designing the motherboard to prevent the overheating but apparently this shortened battery life and put extra strain on other components like the mains charger.
Everything on the laptop is working well and it has been thoroughly serviced.
all of the vents and fans are clear and working properly but as the replacement motherboard i have is of the older pre-fix design i would like to see if there is anything i can do to prevent the overheating from occurring in the future, either by modifying the case or the fan etc.
I thought i was being clear about this.
What i would like to know is if there are any other Qosmio f10-124 owners or anybody who has repaired a Qosmio f10-124 with this fault and what they did if anything to prevent the fault re-occurring.

HOW TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LAPTOP'S BATTERY LIFE

Hi all,
I had this bad experience of this wide problem in laptops, battery failure. It happens almost just after your warranty expires many will agree, funny & true..battery stops charging, shows less than 100% or 0% charge no matter how you try to charge it..etc. Also many complain that the battery shows only remaining charge time, and not the time remaining (read 9th tip below).
Though Mark, Andy, vkyr, nonny, jhem, bill, myles and other admin guys are here to help on this forum, I thought of writing this based on my own experience of these batteries till date..I had compiled a few tips and information for dummies about the use of battery here which might help you to extend battery life:
NOTE to moderatos--please check / modify / add / edit in the following if you find any wrong information.
NOTE to all -- These tips in no way will harm your system, except the 9th tip and also if you remove battery without shutting down laptop
All are welcome to add any new tips or corrections.
1. Never discharge battery to 0%. Always, ALWAYS let battery discharge to a lower limit of up to about 5 to 10%.
2. To run it or not on AC supply without battery If you use laptop most of the time at home or a place where there is a continuous (= uninterrupted) power supply, then simply remove battery from laptop and run laptop on AC power. If you are doubtful about current surge in AC supply, use a surge protector or a UPS (uninterrupted power supply) unit, which doesn't cost much. But be prepared, sometimes you may lose the data which is not saved, due to any accidental interruption. As [Bill] pointed out there might be a performance degradation due to power failure.This is not recommended if you are unsure of power supply.
3. If you use AC power most of the time, then store battery with 30 to 50% (about 40% optimum) charged condition in a dry, away from any magnetism. At least once in a week or two weeks, run the laptop on only battery supply, let discharge it to about 10%, connect to AC supply, charge battery to 100%. Shut down, disconnect supply, remove battery from laptop and then use AC power supply as usual again.
4. If you are running out of remaining battery time, then instead of shutting down PC, hibernate it ( you need to enable hibernation before through power settings in control panel). Shutting down takes more time than hibernation and without saving anything, you can resume your work after hibernation. After hibernating, even if you remove battery, it won't lose any data and will resume once you connect laptop to a power supply.
5. Use power schemes (power management profiles), modify options available in power options under control panel in windows according to your usage & habits. Instead of using a blank screensaver or a screensaver which looks cool, turn OFF monitor, use lenovo power management options or windows power schemes to do this.[Tom&Wjli2]
6. When running on batteries, to save power - reduce brightness of screen (using keys Fn + F10 to reduce, Fn + F11 to increase), mute volume & turn off any unnecessary devices that you are not going to use like (thanks to [Nicolas])bluetooth / modem / plug&play monitor / network adapters(wireless/ethernet/lan/1394) / PCMCIA adapter. Use 'control panel->system->hardware->device manager' to turn these devices on and off.
Changing color schemes to dark or black colors doesn't save power in case of LCDs. (http://savingenergy.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/saving-energy-one-monitor-at-a-time/)
7. Whatever you try, a battery has a specific life time (no. of charging/discharging cycles), and it discharges slightly/continuously over a long period even when not in use. So if your battery is giving problems after about 3 years of service, then it is time for its replacement. Don't assume that if you don't use battery more often, it will last longer, it may usually, but battery failures are unpredictable.
8. If your battery has started to show problems, it will most likely fail sooner or later. Consult experts if battery is under warranty, else buy a new one.
9. Either use lenovo's default program or you might try a program like Notebook Hardware Control (http://www.pbus-167.com/ ) to monitor your power & hardware / temperature. This program shows remaining battery time once you modify advanced options for battery. Also it shows various temperatures for CPU/HDD and warns you if temperature reaches preset limit.
Caution: though this program allows, don't try to modify voltage settings under advanced options, it can harm to your system.
Added:
10. Never run a hot laptop or a hot battery. It damages the battery/laptop, so be sure to keep temperatures within normal range.(below 140 F or 60 deg C).
11. There are few more good/advanced points added by Tom on Page 2.
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Dear iamdh,
Thanks for your answer and your update of the main post. I also read the various interesting articles you mentioned.
Now, I would like to submit to you these interesting questions :
Question 1 : Please do the following test : Open Paint, enlarge to full screen, set image size at least the size of your LCD (e.g. 1500 x 1200 dots) and use bucket tool to fill the whole image in pure black. Now, go to control panel, display, screensaver tab, and select Blank screensaver and test it with the View button. DO YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE between the black screen in Paint and the blank screen of screensaver ?
I don't see any difference (I use a vaio A517S laptop with high brightness LCD), so the conclusion might be that the blank screensaver uses up the same energy than a black color screen. A 2nd experiment leads to the same conclusion more conclusively : View again the "blank" screen (in screensaver tab, View button) and play with the Fn Keys to change brighness. You will notice that that it is impacted by brightness level which means the blankscreen is NOT a real "blank". WHY IS IT IMPORTANT ? Because, if choosing the Blank screensaver uses up the same energy as a black screen, AND because the black screen doesn't make any difference with a white screen on a LCD (remember the paper you found), then, why choose the Blank screensaver !!? Or, is it the fact that colors don't make any difference with LCD which is wrong !?? At that stage, I only ask. It is logic, it is one or the other, isn't it ? Any comments welcome.
Question 2 : You remember that energy transforms into various forms : light, temperature, strength, movement, etc... Now, let's come back to LCD monitor : IF a black full screen and a white full screen uses up the same energy (youy remember the paper http://savingenergy.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/saving-energy-one-monitor-at-a-time/), then, there is a interesting point : Because the white screen gives more light than the black (you can check that in the middle of the night using your laptop as a spotlight torche !), it means that the black uses up its energy into an other form. ...What could it be, other than temperature ? LET'S PUT IT AGAIN DIFFERENTLY : The black screen and the white screen use up the same energy, but why it is used for brighter light with the white, it is used for higher temperature with the dark. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT ? Because higher laptop temperatures damage batteries quicker, then it means that we should avoid dark colors and prefer light colors in our windows settings. .. any comment welcome
Really, the central point of discussion is the fact that electricity LCD consumption is not impacted by colors, even white or black. Has it been really double checked by many ? A story to follow..
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Car adaptor for Qosmio f10

Hello just wanted to know if there is a car adaptor or plug etc what I can use to charge my Qosmio F10 laptop in the car as im of on holiday soon and it will run out of battery after 2 hours or so , so wondering if theres anything like that to keep it running for as long as i want? if there is could you suggest a name and model of one that will work with this pc. Thanks in advance.

Hello Tammie
I found one part which is compatible with your unit.
Check this part:
Notebook Car Adapter 120W, 15V, 8A -- Part number: PX1188E-1NPO --
For more information about this part you can search in web or ask the service partner.
Bye

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Hello All
I've Qosmio F60, I buy it almost one Month. preformance is very good, best ever and ever. but the problem is juts in battery. my battery is not durable. not less then one hour. i dont know whats the matter. the program is not much. anyone can help me what should i do ?
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Hello
Its depending on the applications that you can run how long you can work on battery. For example if you play games I doubt battery life is longer than one hour, probably only 30 or 45 minutes because all hardware parts running with high usage.
To improve the battery life you can reduce the display brightness and use the eco mode for surfing in the Internet for example.
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i have just purchased a qosmio f60-033 and i was wondering what the battery life is like on the 6cell battery with the discdrive disabled (non-eco & eco mode)
also out of curiousity
will the battery life die quicker if i use the laptop with the battery in while connected to the ac adapter? or will the battery stop charging when it is fully charged
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Hi
You dont need to remove the battery while the AC adaptor is connected.
The connected AC adaptor will not affect the new age batteries.
> i have just purchased a qosmio f60-033 and i was wondering what the battery life is like on the 6cell battery with the discdrive disabled (non-eco & eco mode)
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I know once for sure; this is a multimedia notebook and you should not expect that you could work longer than 1.5h-2 hours with the battery power.

Possible Internet Tethering/Battery Life Issue

When either Cellular Data is turned Off, or Airplane Mode is turned On, Internet Tethering (Settings>General>Network) appears to have some process that runs continually in the background (evident by continuously spinning wheel next to the option). The running process has a demonstratively negative impact on battery life (1/3 reduction in ~ 30 mins). The Apple Genius at my local Apple Store and I verified the issue on numerous iPhone 4s that were on display. Turning Cellular Data On and ensuring the phone is not in Airplane Mode stops the activity. But obviously that defeats the purpose of having those options.
So if you are experiencing poor battery life, this might be your issue.
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IPhone 4S Battery Life: Best solutions and procedures for 1st time user: 1-Do you have a battery life issue (learn first what the usage time spec is about) 2-What can you try to remedy the situation without reading 500 pages of posts

What follows is a grouping of some of the most fruitful procedures - from what I've seen in the biggest battery life issue thread - and some background information and discussion for solving or improving the battery life with the iPhone 4S and may be applicable also to devices on which iOS 5.0/5.0.1 has been applied. Credit goes to the respective users who contributed this information to the forum and they should be commended for doing so. This is not a final listing. The goal here is to provide a first stop sort of knowledge base document for newcomers instead of having them perusing the never ending threads where the wheel is reinvented on every page...
Please don't post your questions, usage screenshots, or claims that it worked or not for you or anything here except PROCEDURES/DEBUG STEPS/SOLUTIONS or improvements to the procedures already listed here. Try to use point form and to be as concise and clear as possible. Hope all this helps.
Thank you and good luck!
General info and specs
First, take a look Apple's battery tips, info and specs(obligatory reading for all Iphone 4S users - read it once and for all):
http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
http://www.apple.com/batteries/
... you didn't read it? loll Always remember this i.e. the definition of "usage":
Usage: Amount of time iPhone has been awake and in use since the last full charge. The phone is awake when you’re on a call, using email, listening to music, browsing the web, or sending and receiving text messages, or during certain background tasks such as auto-checking email.
I'm still not convinced you read the links so here's what Apple has to say in terms of fine tuning your battery life:
Optimize your settings
Depending on how they are configured, a few features may decrease your iPhone battery life. For example, the frequency with which you retrieve email and the number of email accounts you auto-check can both affect battery life. The tips below apply to an iPhone running iOS 5.0 or later and may help extend your battery life.
Minimize use of location services: Applications that actively use location services such as Maps may reduce battery life. To disable location services, go to Settings > General > Location Services or use location services only when needed.
Turn off push notifications: Some applications from the App Store use the Apple Push Notification service to alert you of new data. Applications that extensively rely on push notifications (such as instant messaging applications) may impact battery life. To disable push notifications, go to Settings > Notifications and set Notifications to Off. Note that this does not prevent new data from being received when the application is opened. Also, the Notifications setting will not be visible if you do not have any applications installed that support push notifications.
Fetch new data less frequently: Applications such as Mail can be set to fetch data wirelessly at specific intervals. The more frequently email or other data is fetched, the quicker your battery may drain. To fetch new data manually, from the Home screen choose Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > Fetch New Data and tap Manually. To increase the fetch interval, go to Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > Fetch New Data and tap Hourly. Note that this is a global setting and applies to all applications that do not support push services.
Turn off push mail: If you have a push mail account such as Yahoo! or Microsoft Exchange, turn off push when you don’t need it. Go to Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > Fetch New Data and set Push to Off. Messages sent to your push email accounts will now be received on your phone based on the global Fetch setting rather than as they arrive.
Auto-check fewer email accounts: You can save power by checking fewer email accounts. This can be accomplished by turning off an email account or by deleting it. To turn off an account, go to Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars, choose an email account, and set Account to Off. To remove an account, go to Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars, choose an email account, and tap Delete Account.
Turn off Wi-Fi: If you rarely use Wi-Fi, you can turn it off to save power. Go to Settings > Wi-Fi and set Wi-Fi to Off. Note that if you frequently use your iPhone to browse the web, battery life may be improved by using Wi-Fi instead of cellular data networks.
Turn off Bluetooth: If you rarely use a Bluetooth headset or car kit, you can turn off Bluetooth to save power. Go to Settings > General > Bluetooth and set Bluetooth to Off.
Use Airplane Mode in low- or no-coverage areas: Because your iPhone always tries to maintain a connection with the cellular network, it may use more power in low- or no-coverage areas. Turning on Airplane Mode can increase battery life in these situations; however, you will be unable to make or receive calls. To turn on Airplane Mode, go to Settings and set Airplane Mode to On.
Adjust brightness: Dimming the screen is another way to extend battery life. Go to Settings > Brightness and drag the slider to the left to lower the default screen brightness. In addition, turning on Auto-Brightness allows the screen to adjust its brightness based on current lighting conditions. Go to Settings > Brightness and set Auto-Brightness to On.
Turn off EQ: Applying an equalizer setting to song playback on your iPhone can decrease battery life. To turn EQ off, go to Settings > iPod > EQ and tap Off. Note that if you’ve added EQ to songs directly in iTunes, you’ll need to set EQ on iPhone to Flat in order to have the same effect as Off because iPhone keeps your iTunes settings intact. Go to Settings > iPod > EQ and tap Flat.
Usage specs for the 4S - http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html:
Talk time: Up to 8 hours (12.5% per hour drain) on 3G, up to 14 hours (7.1% per hour drain) on 2G (GSM)
Standby time: Up to 200 hours (0.5% per hour drain)
Internet use: Up to 6 hours on 3G (16.6% per hour drain), up to 9 hours (11.1% per hour drain) on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 10 hours (10% per hour drain)
Audio playback: Up to 40 hours (2.5% per hour drain)
So a scenario of normal usage could be for example: 4 heavy hours of 3G internet browsing (66.4%), with one hour of call on 3G (12.5%) and 22 hours of standby (11%) = 100%
A battery life issue is a problem where the drain is really out of spec either during usage or standby or both. For example, multi-% per minute drain during usage or a 10% drain per hour during standby is problematic. Browsing the internet on 3G during one hour and losing 16-17% is not.
Apple's test methodology for claiming the specs:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/battery.html
Procedures
davidch tips (reset+full discharge recharge):
Go through these steps to address the battery after updating to iOS 5.0.1:
1. Reset all settings (settings app-> general-> reset)
2. Go through initial setup steps (lang, wifi, siri, enable location, etc) and choose setup as new phone (don't worry your apps, data, contacts, mail will still be there). Do NOT restore from iCloud or iTunes (It can copy back corrupt settings)
3. Turn off system location services timezone and iAd
4. Fully discharge battery (tilll it shuts off with the spinning wheel)
5. Fully recharge battery (overnight if possible)
In my experience this improves the Standby battery drain issue significantly in most cases. It reduces drain from 2-4% or more per hr to 0.5% or less. It has worked for many, many users now. If it does not work after a few try's you may have a real battery or hardware issue and should contact Apple. Good Luck!
ram130's variant of davidch i.e. additional steps:
Now using davidch original steps and attaching the tweaks I made to get me more usage. As shown on page 29.
Go through these steps to address the battery after updating to iOS 5.0.1:
1. Reset all settings (settings app-> general-> reset)
2. Go through initial setup steps (lang, wifi, siri, enable location, etc) and choose setup as new phone (don't worry your apps, data, contacts, mail will still be there). Do NOT restore from iCloud or iTunes (It can copy back corrupt settings)
3. Turn off system location services timezone and iAd
4. Fully discharge battery (till it shuts off with the spinning wheel)
5. Fully recharge battery (overnight if possible)
6. Disable Siri 'Raise To Speak' and REBOOT *( if possible use another camera to verify the                 infrared is off after the reboot).
7. Set emails, icloud and calendars to fetch. ** test. Mines on hourly.
8. If your in a no signal and your phone is saying "Searching..." even after 10mins, reboot while in that area and after 1-2min it should say "No Service". This mainly applies to Verizon customers and improve battery life in these areas.
9. *optional* Goto Settings > General > Network and you will see "Hotspot.." loading something, wait a few seconds and it should say "setup personal hotspot" then exit out.
* I notice a great improvement after disabling this and rebooting. This increased my "screen on" usage or at least helped it. Make the change.
** I have not tested push yet to narrow down the drain but I had this change on my phone. I believe exchange push is responsible for some stand by drain. As for icloud, haven't notice much of a difference. Just try it for a day. My email still came in fast most times. Again still testing, will report back on these..
buxbuster tips(wifi sync, iCloud):
These are my own tested workarounds that worked for my iPhone 4S and seemed to have worked for others as well :
Workaround number 1. Deselect wifi-sync in iTunes and press sync.
If that doesn't work try :
Workaround number 2 : Remove iCloud, reset network settings. ( I guess this won't work for you since you don't have it enabled ).
If both workarounds fail, you can always try to completely wipe your phone. That also solved some of the cases out there.
rolandomerida tips - i.e. buxbuster and additional steps:
Finally, I solved the syncing error loop. My contacts are syncing flawessly again between my devices and iCloud, and yes, the battery stopped draining, which is the main topic here.
I followed instructions from buxbuster (check his workaround a few pages up!) and an additional BIG step to restore contacts and syncing, as seen in a MacRumors forum.
This is what I did:
1. Make a backup of your Address Book, using the vCard option (or both, it doesn't hurt). Save it for later.
2. In your iPhone, delete iCloud account. When it asks, accept both: delete AND delete from my iPhone.
3. Reset network settings. The iPhone will restart, then will ask you to unlock the SIM card.
4.Turn Wi-Fi on.
5. Add the iCloud account again.
That's for Buxbuster's workaround. For some, it might work just like that. My iPhone repopulated from iCloud after step 5, but I still had that "server error" on iCloud. I had to do some extra steps, since my Mac was not syncing to iCloud and couldn't edit anything on my Mac or iCloud. Syncing back had to be fixed, too. If not, the syncing loop would continue from my iPhone, and the battery would drain awfully again.
1. In System Preferences -> iCloud, I turned Contacts off. I chose "keep on My Mac" those contacts, but I got an empty Address Book after a while. And a few minutes later, iCloud contacts were empty and my iPhone also. It is scary at first! Now, before importing that vCard backup...
2. Turn Wi-Fi off. This is important, since your contact-empty iCloud will attempt to wipe your Address Book from your Mac in seconds after importing.
3. Import your vCard backup to Address Book. Just drag it to your blank Address Book window; it asks if you want to import "x" number of cards. Of course, say yes.
4. Turn Wi-Fi on, and then iCloud contacts on again (System Preferences -> iCloud). It will offer to merge your newly populated Address Book with iCloud (which is empty at this point). It should upload every single contact to iCloud, and then to your iDevices. If not, a fifth step would be to import the vCard file to iCloud, but it shouldn't be necessary.
So, with iCloud syncing working correctly, there is no battery draining! Again, that was my particular issue.
I can't tell if this is the single answer to the widely spread battery draining problem, but it sure can be fixed with these workarounds, and yes, Apple should address the problem with a future update, for we affected customers don't need workarounds in the first place
This is the MacRumors discussion:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1256807
And dont' forget to check buxbuster's fix, video, and THANK him!
Miless tips (full 800mb release of 5.0.1 and sanitizing a restore):
As for 4S battery life. Try doing this,
1. Settings>Location Service ... disable all location services you do not need. In particularly Facebook because it drains the battery a lot.
Scroll down to the bottom at Settings>Location services>System Services ... Disable Setting Time zone, location based iAds, Diagnostic & Usage.
2. Settings>Notification>Calendar ... turn off the Notification Centre.
3. Settings>General>Reset ... do Reset All Settings. Doing this will not wipe out your iPhone. It will just Reset the network settings, location warning, keyboard dictionary, etc... but it will clear up some corrupted data there. Generally this will help.
Try these 3 steps first... if it still drains a lot, try the following,
4. Drain your battery down to 1%. Then charge it up using USB from PC ... not the charger. The charger output 1.0 A ( x 5V from USB ... you get 5W power). From PC, output is only 0.5A x 5V = 2.5W power. Charging is slower but trickle charge 4S helps the battery retain its charge better. I think it takes about 3-3.5 hours to charge full from USB/PC compared to slightly below 2 hours using iPhone charger.
If after doing the above still could not solve your battery issues (mine with iOS 5.0 was ok up to step 4, but not iOS 5.0.1).... plug you iPhone to a charger (any charger), from iPhone, access your iCloud ... set it up if you havent. Back up your iPhone data to iCloud. if you do not have enough storage (only 5GB is free), go to details and select the apps you need its data backup, choose only those you really need and leave those unnecessary ones out. Back up your camera roll to your PC/Mac manually as it could be too big to backup to iCloud.... once you have it setup, make sure you are on Wifi ... tap backup to iCloud from your iPhone. It will take a while if the file is huge.
Once backup to iCloud is completed, plug your iPhone to PC/Mac and launch iTunes 10.5.1 (make sure you have 10.5.1)
Click Restore. It will automatically initiate a download of iOS 5.0.1 ipsw for iPhone 4S. Wait for the whole process to finish, ie. download, restore software/firmware.
Once its done, do not set up your iPhone from iTunes. Set it up on your iPhone. Go through the selection. When prompted, select restore from iCloud (from your iphone backup earlier). Keep your iphone plugged into iTunes while restoring backup from iCloud. Because while restoring from iClouds, some data will be synced from iTunes if you plug in, e.g. music, video, etc... unless you bought these content from iTunes store. Apps will be downloaded from App Store from the cloud.
Once it's all done restored. Turn off your iPhone,.. and turn it on again.
Now, hopefully your battery wont be draining so fast anymore. Usually it wont after this. But you need to charge your battery at least 4-5 cycles to stabilize the charge on the battery. I dont know why... but battery life seems to get better and better for me after a few charge cycles after all the above work.
Good luck. Let us know if it works for you.
W. Raider tips (Sirii):
Bottom line for me of things that helped battery life are:
1. Turing off Siri and Rebooting the phone by holding the Home button and Top button down, ignoring the slider, until the phone shut down. (turn off Siri, reboot, and check top front of iPhone 4S against a lesser camera like the front-facing camera on an iPad2 - making sure the IR sensor is off)
2. Fully draining the battery, meaning using the phone until it shuts itself off from a drained battery and then recharging it to 100% about 4, maybe 5 times. I charged it both with a Mac and a wall charger.
Hope this is helpful!
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jmm514 remarks (Twitter):
I may have found something. I had Twitter disabled in my notifications, but got a tweet today that popped up on my home screen. Didn't know I had this enabled. At the bottom of the Twitter notification settings is the home scrren toggle. Since disabling this, battery life seems better. Considering there is no setting for frequency of checking for tweets, it appears the phone is continually connecting to wifi to check for new tweets.
tmksnyder comments (notifications, corrupt data in iCloud):
For me, I found my iphone on wifi mysteriously connecting to my mac. I eventually narrowed it down to the Apple Move Trailers app which keeps a file in iCloud. The phone was trying to sync the file with the mac in the background even when the Movie Trailers app was closed (hitting the red x). Based on my macosx logs the iCloud process that was trying to sync was working directly between the phone and the mac without using itunes by connecting to an https address hosted on the phone. It was connecting every 3 minutes and failing (while phone was awake or awake during during a notification). I also found that iCloud control panel on OSX would error if I tried to delete the file. I fixed it by removing the App and doing a hard reset which stopped the sync. I probably could have turned off iCloud document sync in the phone but didn't think of that. My battery life has greatly improved while at home on wifi.    I am now at 28 hrs standby, 2 hrs 20 minutes of usage, and 68% battery. It was ok before where I could get 20-30 hrs standby and 6 -8 hrs usage. My usage today was phone calls, 3g surfing, and music via bluetooth in the car.
I also found even with Itunes iMatch, if I mass updated tages, art work etc, it would hit the phone on wifi even in standby. I was amazed.   Granted if I am not doing updates, Match won't hot the phone so this was a once in awhile event. I could drop my percentage by 5-10% in a matter of minutes when doing updates.   I think a lot of our problems are background processes, associated with iCloud, notification, and apps. More features means more battery.   I think the key thing is to keep track of what has recently been added or changed if battery life gets worse all of a sudden.   It may be an app that was recently installed and if possible you may want to completely remove it and not just quit it.
With twitter, i think it uses push notifications so it doesn't need to be running and actively poll on the phone. For instance , if i quit the mail app, i still will get mail notifications and can swipe the message and load mail. Apple Push Notifications servics maintain the connection to the phone and there are likely pings or connection checks that occur for the service on an os level not an app level. This minimizes the load so there arent a bunch of apps all runing and constantly checking. The notification service , if it is contacted from twitter or another service with data, will check the settings you have registered to the with the apple push service and send the notification to your phone. No matter what, there is a drain with notifications. M hunch is once one application is configured to receive notifications, connection checking occurs betwen the push service and the phone so it knows where it is on the network. If it is implemented correctly, these checks arent frequent if you are still and more frequent as you move. The other drain is for when the noification hits and is processsed. If i get 9 emails over night, my screen just popped up for 20 seconds or so to process each message using battery. I would even think that just go from low power to turning n the screen uses more juice than if the device was already on and i get the message. On nights I get no notifications, I see a 3 or 4 percent drop. On nights with a number of notifications, i have seen up to a 10 percent drop. Besides notifications, wifi sync and icloud will poll on the local network and use up battery if the host computer is on and running itunes or trying to sync a data file that is corrupt (which i had with the apple movie trailers app causing my phone to drain). For me turning off wifi sync and remving a corrupt file in icloud solved my battery issues and I get over 24 hrs of standby with 6 to 9 hrs of use and this is with all the normal location services and push serivices turned on.
See http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/ipad/#documentation/NetworkingInternet/Co nceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/ApplePushService/ApplePushService.html for more info. I think it has a good overview of how the notifications work.

Well seems like that rumor of iOS 5.0.1 is finally gone the way of the dogs since developers got a beta of 5.1. So as stated earlier in the master discussion-> I suspect if you are filling up this thread with false post or creating a master set of links to various post that are unreliable you are wasting your time. Press is not going to touch the story due to poor or inaccurate sources which may be links from the master thread. This can include inaccurate information, combination of conflicting post or postings from users which may not own the device. Reputable press organizations have policies that require discloser and strict rules about what is a reliable source for a story. It is clear that many of the post in the master thread, which are links presented here are questionable.
Sorry to say that postings taken without any analysis of their totality have been propagated via various sites, for example sites such as http://www.2012federalbudget(dot)com. (Do not visit but I suspect that this is not the 2012 federal-budget site you would expect based on analysis of the records. There are plenty of sites like http://www.2012federalbudget(dot)com propagating questionable post in these threads.) One site for example in the discussion thread used a self signed certificate, the site had a log in to allow users to enter their OpenID. Seems many of these sites are pop and drop drupel configurations.
So remember this is how the really bad rumor of iOS 5.0.2 got started, the 5.1 memory leak issue, iCloud Issues, call quality, address book, etc.
Some of the postings have been very comical, I think the latest now is a dropbox issue. Seems that the length of the previous thread has resulted in various app engines of some proxy servers/tools reaching their limits.
So I would make sure to know the source of any information you link to. Make sure you avoid entering any information to outside links such as OpenID or Apple ID, these are big prize items for anyone with malicious intent. If you have issues and are a valid user contact APPLE CARE. (Note link is using McAfee Secure Short URL Service, and is https.)
http://mcaf.ee/ricdt
The original solution still represents a high level of success for users having any battery issues.
Install 5.0.1 on your iPhone 4s. Some users posting they are still using older versions, bad fake serial numbers, etc.
Make sure your device can run iOS 5.0.1 and is not altered.
Make sure you use a new Sim, not some cut down version which many users admit to doing. (Again, worth confirming what people are posting.)
Reset the device doing a hard reset and software reset.
Let battery drain and then charge for the full cycle, which is 24 hours.
I think you will find you will get the battery usage that APPLE has stated for the device.
Best of luck, stay safe and thanks

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You have to tell us what your usage pattern is like, what your reception/signal strength is, and what network type you are using (E/3G/4G/LTE)
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