QT file with embedded closed captioning created in Premiere converted to MPEG2

Having successfully added closed captioning to a half hour show, we now need to convert it to MPEG2 file. What is a good program to accomplish this (the cc must be embedded). I tried Sorensen, but it just locks up. Any help is appreciated.

Hello, You could try MacCaption / CaptionMaker. PPRO embeds to MOV and MXF. Good luck! C

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******BUG******
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