QT on N97

I see more and more apps in the Ovi-Store that require what I assume to be qt (installation of up to 13MB required, bla, bla)
How on earth am I supposed to get something like that installed when all the most free memory on C: is about 9 MB, even though I have installed everything I can on mass memory e: ?
I mean I can never upgrade maps either, due to lack of main memory in the N97 lemon, I need to uninstall and reinstall.
Ever seen a black lemon? They turn black when they rot. My N97 is black. 'nuff said

Thanks
that merely confirms what a pathetically useless pice of hardware that so called flagship phone actually is.
a useless incompetently designed brick with shoddy build and software quality from a company in an irreversible downhill spiral.
I am counting the days remaining on my contract until i can toss this worst handset i ever owned and get a REAL smartphone and may after i do I'll toss the N97 off a high-rise or drive my car over it a few times, it will certainly make me feel better.
And guess what brand my next phone definitely won't be.
Ever seen a black lemon? They turn black when they rot. My N97 is black. 'nuff said

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Mail for exchange settings on N97

I have a N97 which mail for exchange was working happily on, synchronizing mail, contact's and calendar. The world was a good place!
The screen broke and needed replacing on my N97 and I have set up mail for exchange again. Now when it downloads mail, it downloads all of the other outlook folders inside my inbox as well as my inbox. It never used to do this and indeed this is not what I want.
How can I get my N97 to just download the inbox rather than all of the folders within the inbox on outlook. There must be some settings either on the phone or in outlook which defines what is synced.

Maybe you had earlier Mail for Exchange v2.9 in use and after setting it up again, you have got the latest MfE 3.0 version. The new MfE 3.0 version has as a new feature the possibility to view the outlook subfolders. These are, however, not automatically synced unless you subscribe to them. The unsubscribed folders show the mark (x) in front of the folder name. After you subscribe to a folder, the (x) mark will disappear from the folder name.

Problems with n97 apps connecting to network (Voda...

Problems with n97 apps connecting to network (Vodafone UK – 3G)
Recently a number of my apps which used to connect automatically to the internet (which ever was available – known wi-fi or 3g) have stopped doing this. They now only connect to one known wi-fi.
I’ve tried uninstalling and reinstalling each app, but this hasn’t solved the problem. I’ve checked for software updates and do not believe any have been applied or are available. All apps have been downloaded via Ovi on the phone. I still am able to access the internet by the web browser which was installed on the phone and via google maps (which also still manages GPS position, search, etc).
The apps which I notice causing a problem are:
Sainsbury’s/nectar
Tesco
Map my tracks
Snaptu
Opera Mini
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I have the same problem since i updated my mac to 10.5.6.
Each time I have to do a diagnostic and retype the WEP password to have the internet connection.

N97 v2.0 firmware issues/bugs

installed n97 v 2.0 nam version
installed great.. didnt even delete all apps or loose most settings..
some issues
1. the fm transmitter app seems to be gone.. although in settings you can set the channel etc. and you can enable it from the music player. But the music player is not the only apI use it from ... what gives.. doesnt nokia think we use the fm transmitter for anything else..
2. performance.. maybe to save memory or something but multi-tasking is not as smooth.. when i run the audible book player at the same time while garmin is running it stutter every few minutes.. this did not happen with older f/w... it doesnt happen with garmin and the music player so does anyone know how to raise the priority off apps so i can raise it for the audible player.. fm transmitter seems stronger than old f/w maybe they raised the output power.
some big files in the install directory on c drive you can delete liek ms exchange 2 meg and other directories have the preinstalled **bleep** like spore, etc. that you can remove to get another 3 or meg free.
need to use xplore that lets you look in the private directory..

- SIP aka 'Internet Calling' is missing...Again. Could have sworn I heard that Nokia Rep in a video saying it was added back in.
- Skype - where is it? give me the link, i would love to download it. What kiils me is this is a working available app that is being held back for some silly reason and the only ones it affects are the users whom bough the phone.
- Need to reboot phone to load Music file to be added from removable Storage - it does not seem to do its own search for music, nor could I find the 'search for music' option on the context menu.
- MP4 (h.264) video files only play audio - strange part is that a thumbnail is generated of the video. Why Real Player and not VLC or MPlayer....RP is garbage, so 1992. It would be nice to have a video player that plays video from this decade.
- Still no way to remove Boingo and all those useless apps to free up the precious space on C Drive.
- Not a big deal, but it seems that some ring tones are gone - like the simple 'ring ring' tune.
- Ovi store is better - but it would be nice you could get more than 11 items per page.
- Still no soft keyboard we saw way back in February?
- On the home screen, all the status icons on the top right are still all gimped together in a messy tangle (wifi, bt, gps, mail icon, voicemail etc) - cant these be spread out like on the apps menu? It looks terrible!
- All these new widgets there was so much talk about?
- In the apps folder there are normal sized icons as before then HUGE icons like facebook - whats up with that?
- HTML mail still not supported in the Mail Client - and OVI Mail is terrible and not an option, not to mention going through a 3rd party to retrieve mail makes no sense. Cant we just get a slightly improved mail client? it is almost 2010 after all.
- Home screen - why not use a little more of the usable space such that the info displayed has a little more room to actually be relevant and readable, seems to be a lot of wasted space. like the separate clock/date/profile. Surely there is a tighter way to display everything. The profile can be changed by hitting the power button....
- Calendar Widget - why not show the next few events even if they are two or three days away instead of displaying "next entry on XXX" - sort of makes it pointless the way it is.
- Maps - why not throw us N97 users a bone and give us a free licence for OVI maps for say a year to make up for the wool that was pulled over our eyes when we all purchased this expensive 'flagship' phone that still does not have the advertised options on it. The way i see it, a phone is good for 1 year, and I'm going on month 5 where today after the upgrade does it seem we're coming out of BETA.
- Camera lens still gouges itself, so I am afraid to open the cover to test the camera unless I really really need to take a photo.
I love my purple screen, 1/2 day battery, sketchy touch screen and $800 price tag - I call it my Lumia 900

Why i can't get latest firmware update for n97?

I can see there is new update for n97 (21.2.045) but update check from phone and pc says i have the latest version. i don;t have latest version. i have september firmware on.

This subject has been covered 100's of times on the forum, USE THE USER SEARCH TOOL AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE BEFORE POSTING A THREAD !!!!!!!!!
jjegan, as an employee you should have realised this I would have thought (assuming you are speaking on behalf of Nokia !)
If I have helped at all, a click on the White Star is always appreciated :
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N97 V2 music player has more bugs than a hundred y...

My problem is back!
This is what I have done in the past hour.
Exported my contacts to vcf onto memory card. Removed the card.
*#7370# - hard reset
Went through all that... Then remembered I hadn't wiped mass storage.
Wiped mass storage (Which it kept complaining it couldn't do until I removed all the default active apps on the front screen). After removing them it eventually formatted it
*#7370# - hard reset
Let it get settled...
Connected to USB, did a firmware update check. 2.00.19, no update available. Disconnected USB.
Removed all the front screen **bleep**, added shortcut 2, put my normal shortcuts onto it.
Added my wifi destination
Opened the browser, went to google.co.uk via my wifi, added that as bookmark
Put the memory card back in (there are no apps on it, I never got round to using it for anything).
Imported my contacts back from the memory card.
Went into music player, zero tracks shown. Good.
Connected USB, started Nokia Music PC application (latest version, had checked). Right clicked on one album 13 tracks.
Let it send them over to the N97.
Disconnected phone. Started N97's music player. It says music library corrupt, scanning... Says 13 tracks found.
Artists shows one artist, 13 tracks. Albums shows 1 album. All looks good.
Go into the album, pick on a track, starts playing.
Volume control does nothing. Touch volume control does nothing. Headset remote control, volume, forward and reverse do nothing. Touch screen pause/play forward and reverse do work, but there is no way to control volume.
I've screwed up this music player app before the Nokia system has even got round to sending me the Welcome text message (which I have seen too many times!).
Okay, I'm going to write the next bit line by line as I do it... So bear with me... It's step by step. You never know, it might help anyone that gives a damn (Nokia hopefully), fix it!
*#7780# - soft reset
Front screen now just shows shortcuts1 and 2, but the shortcuts themselves have switched back to Nokia's defaults.
Music player volume now works!
Connect to USB, send another mp3 album. PC app says (and shows on the %age bar) transferring 5 tracks. Album has 18. Nokia Music system tray icon says complete after 5, but the little arrows shows things are still being transferred. Waited for them to finish. Click the N97 icon and it's showing both albums, with all 18 tracks the second one really does have.
Disconnect USB
Go into Music library on N97, no auto refresh message. Showing only the original album with 13 tracks.
"Options\refresh library" nothing shows as scanning, just appear straight back at the artist,album,playlist option screen. Albums still shows just the first one.
Option\music library details says 13 tracks
Playback and volume still work.
Using the file manager, mass storage, music there's my 2nd artist, the album, and all the mp3 files. I can click them and play them. Volume still works.
Select original (found) album, select delete. Everything shows 0, even though 2nd album is there in the mass memory, file mgr shows it. First artist and albums folders are still there, but empty (Nice house keeping Nokia).
Reconnect USB, Nokia Music just shows the "invisible" 2nd album, and will play it.
Pick a 3rd album of 11 tracks... Send that to N97.. No progress bar or anything shown, just wait for the arrows to stop flashing and then confirm N97 is showing two albums (the invisible on and new one) on the PC app.
Disconnect USB.
Back on the N97... Apps, Music.. Says Music Library 11 songs (that's the 3rd album)... Go into it..
Albums (no songs)
All songs (no songs)
Artists: The artist from 3rd album is shown... 11 songs!
Click it... Shows the album name, 11 songs.
Click the album, and click the first track to play it... Long delay of a few seconds...
Starts playing... Volume not working again!
Try refresh library... again, nothing, no progress bar...
No change, no volume control.
Now here's the really weird bit... If I go and find the mp3 file on the mass storage, and play it from there, volume control works! Come back through the music play app, play the same track, volume won't work.
*#7780# - soft reset
Welcome message, yeah yeah... Ooooh, very fast confirmation text message...
Apps, Music, Music Library (11 songs), go into that, click Albums.... "Cannot perform whilst USB connected" **bleep**?I disconnected that ages ago when i said I did. After that every attempt to go into Albums dumps me back to the Music app showing "Last player - blank" "Music Library 11" etc etc...
Exit all the way out and try to go back in...Artists does the "USB connected" error. Albums just dumps me out. Playlists says "File corrupt". All songs say "(no songs)". Podcasts and Genres say "USB connected", composers "General system error" and after that I get a couple of other system errors from other options and then it just dumps me back out.
*#7780# - soft reset
Ovi welcome... blah blah...
Apps, music, music library (11 songs), go into it, option\refresh... Ooooh, something happens, a progress bar! 18 files added! That's 3rd album...
Albums show both... Artists show both
Pick one for playback... Volume control is back!
Right... Time to try a different tack...
Connect USB, mass storage mode this time (all previous attempts have been PC suite mode).
Create a now folder in music for the artist name (as stored in ID3 tag), create subfolder in that for the Album name (as stored in ID3). Copy mp3 files.
Eject USB device, wait for windows to confirm... It does.
Disconnect USB cable.
App\music\Music Library (29 songs - Thats the two previous albums). Go into it, previous tracks shown, playback/volume okay.
Refresh library works again... Now 3 albums, volume works.
Back to USB (mass storage mode).
This time deliberately doing the storage structure wrong... \music\albumname\mp3s (normally \music\artist\albumname\mp3s).
Music library still showing the 48 tracks from the first 3 albums... Seems to open a bit slower... Still works though.
Refresh library... 13 files added...
4 albums... All working...
Looking with file mgr from badly arranged folder is still as I made it... I guess the Nokia Music PC app creates the tree format, and the N97 doesn't actually need it.
Okay, proof of pudding test...
Connect via USB (mass storage).
Delete the album I created with the mangled folder structure.
Copy 20 folders of mp3 albums across using just windows file manager to the mass storage drive's music folder.
Eject USB storage device from windows....
Oh... Up until now I was almost certain I would be able to use N97 as an MP3 player as long as I avoided the Nokia Music PC app...
Apps\Music\music library shows 61 songs, which is what it had...
Go into it, click albums and I'm getting the USB device connected message. It's not, and the icon isn't even showing on the phone, so I can't go into the player to see if volume works.
Refresh isn't displaying anything, or doing anything I can see. Playlists say the file is corrupt...
*#7780# - Soft reset
Apps\Music\music library (61 songs).. go in, "Repairing corrupted library. Searching for music and podcasts"
After a little while... 2 hundred and something found...
Yup, all there...
Guess what...
Volume control is screwed again!
Manually telling it to scan for new tracks doesn't do anything.
*#7780# - Soft reset
Apps\Music\music library (276 songs)... Go in "Repairing corrupted library....."
2 seconds later "Search complete 0 file(s) added"
All albums there, still no volume control.
Okay, that enough... No more...
Hopefully that is enough to give Nokia a clue as to what is wrong, and may I just make a slight suggestion.
TEST WITH MORE THAN HALF A DOZEN TRACKS YOU **^(*&)(*)(*(*£$%^*(#!
I'm off to buy a 7lb club hammer.

Last night I had a thought...
I wondered if the N97's Music player was getting upset when scanning my music because I had the jpg of the album cover in the folder with it (I tend to do that). As I hadn't bothered reloading any music since my last hard reset I thought I would give it a try.
I removed all non-mp3 files from my music folders.
Connected N97 in PC Suite mode
Started Nokia Music PC app and transferred one album. Let it finish, closed the PC Nokia Music app, gave it a few seconds to settle, disconnected the N97 and had a look.
It appeared in the music player and worked.
Ooooh, right, in for a penny, in for a pound as they say... I connected it back up and sent over another 6 albums. Again closed the Nokia Music app... Waited a few seconds and disconnected the N97.
Went and had a look... "Library corrupt, scanning.... blah blah"... Oh dear, here we go again. But no, a progress bar actually appeared, and after a minute it said "0 file(s) added", but they were all there. All the album art appeared (I'd already embedded that in the mp3 files days ago). All the albums, all the music.
They played, and the volume worked!
Yay! Thinks me... Solved... And goes to bed a happy man.
I set my alarm (on the phone) for the morning and turn the phone off so nobody can phone me before my alarm (which really screws up my sleep!).
This morning the alarm goes off.
I hit stop. It asks if I want to turn the phone on, I say yes.
It asks for my lock code (which I have enabled). I enter it. It says code correct.
Flash of white on the screen... and it asks for my lock code again, which I enter... It says correct again.
This time I get the Nokia tune.
It comes up to the normal front screen, jumps itself onto the application screen, throws up a system error and reboots.
It comes back up (without asking for a pin) and this time settles at the front screen looking for all the world like a working phone... A text message arrives to prove at least that's working.
Hmmm... I wonder about my music...
Well it's all there... But guess what... Volume control doesn't work again!
Oh and clicking "Podcasts", of which I have zero, still produces, and has always produced (even straight after a hard reset), the message "Out of memory, please remove something"... Pressing it again produces "System Error". After that nothing in the Music Library menu works, all produce "System Error". You have to close it and restart to get anything in Music Library to "work".
I wouldn't say I am short of memory. DeviceInfo (from moubail.com) Shows
C: 32.68 MB free
E: 30116.46 MB free
F: (8Gig card) 7120.86 MB free
RAM: 48.83 MB free.
I keep my C: drive clear of everything. Even my text message storage has been switched to E: (not that I have may since all the hard/soft reboots. Most of them are the "Welcome to nokia" message. Anything that gives me the option to install to another "drive" gets put onto E:
I haven't installed any of the 3 files offered in since the hard reset "SW Update", N-Gage, Nokia Messaging or Ovi Contacts.

N97 RSS update issues since upgrading to v21

Hi Since upgrading to the V21 firmware on my N97, if the phone powers off for any reason, my RSS feeds default to not automatically updating. I have to go to each feed and reset the update schedule each time I run out of battery or change to my backup battery. Im using the built in RSS reader that you configure through the "Web" browser application. I am using this to display 3 feeds as widgets on the home screen. has anyone else experienced this or have any suggestions.

I have found a workaround:
The problem with RSS feeds disabling their auto-update setting only happens when you switch off the phone using the power button. If you power down by dropping out the battery the auto-update settings stay enabled.

How good is the N97 for you to replace your multip...

Hi, a quick question for anyone who has an N97 and using it for more than communication.
I have had a Nokia of all types (6310i, N71, 6680 etc) for almost 10 years and two weeks ago, I decided to upgrade to the N97 (cost: Euro269 with Vodafone Ireland,12 month contract).
The main reason I got my N97 was to cut down on the tech clutter (Plugs, data cables and memory devices) I had for misc. media playback. I had an PSP (video playback, via 16GB MSProDuo), Ipod (music for walking & in-car audio via Belkin FM transmitter) and an N95 8GB (phone calls). Yes, I could have gotten the Iphone but the change over to O2 and the min. euro45/month fee on an 18 month contract was not worth the hassle involved.
What I wanted was, ideally, one device for all three needs: audio, video and communications.
Two weeks after getting the N97, I'm happy that it has solved two of the three requirements: Video playback & communications) but audio playback is still clunky to use & difficult to edit.
-The video: as I mentioned in another posting, porting over an .avi video file is still clumsy (I'm using Windows 7, maybe compatibility issues?). I've been using with 100% transfer/playback success -handbrake (single file) and AVS (Multiple files) to convert to .MPEG4 and file manager to drop the Mpeg4 file into "Video" folder. It's multiple steps instead of the seamless process promised by PC SUITE/OVI but, hey, it works for me!
-Audio: a huge pain to create a simple playlist for walking. I know the 2.0 firmware promised in late Oct. looks great (from the video preview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_iajkv2YE8) but trying to simply find a song is tedious in a what should have been an intuitive touch screen interface. Using the selection menu is like using Win 3.11 after using Win 7 -slow, clumsy & not designed for a smart phone. Also, the "find album art" in Nokia Music is slow & inaccurate. I do like the FM Transmitter feature and the little I have used so far in car, has been seamless to setup and a snap to use.
-Communication: This is the first touch screen phone I have had and while it has taken time to make the mental shift from hitting physical keys, I'm happy with the handset's performance. Being blunt, I really hope the firmware upgrade addresses the N97's buggy OS. I have had to hard reset twice (change all, and I mean all "Save To" setting -messages, email, cache etc, to "Mass Memory" not "Phone memory" as this seems to have stopped cold the "memory full" warnings I was getting). Also, I'm finding the camera much better with the N97 Vs the N95 8GB and the free app. PhotoBrowser (http://betalabs.nokia.com/betas/view/nokia-photo-browser) is simply amazing to use as an indexing tool. If you want to impress family with the phones functions, take a photo of them and open up PhotoBrowser for the wow! impact.
Sorry if this is long winded but while I have read a lot of postings on the site for specific issues, just wondering how anyone in general is finding using the handset/computer for day to day media use? Personally while the battery life demands I have a charger with me always, I really like having a single device that does two of the three functions I was looking for in a single unit.
Paul

What EXACTLY does it say?

How can I download flash player in my nokia n97?

how can I download flash player in my nokia n97??
I can't view any videos at website
Moderator's Note: Subject line changed as it is not seem to be a relevant and support issue.

It depends in what format the online videos are.
For some formats you might find appropriate players on Nokia Store
If you're trying to watch youtube movies, you can point your phone's browser to http://m.youtube.com/

What setting/application is causing N97 (20.0.027)...

Hello,
I have a Nokia N97 RM-505 black with firmware v20.0.27
Before updating to 20.0.27, I reset the phone with the so called 3 finger salute:
(shift, space, backspace, power button to start), then formatted mass memory, then deleted anything deletable
on c/e drives, then reset to factory setting, and applied 20.0.27 without problems.
I have a lot of applications installed on it, mostly free or purchased from handango
(I don't use ovi store since they don't let me download what I bought for backup).
It took several days to install the applications, I also downloaded a lot of maps to the phone,
as well as mp3s.
The phone worked beautifully, with all installed apps it had around 45MB free,
and responded reasonably quickly.
the problems started when I attempted to restart the phone, it got stuck on
the white startup screen with the blue nokia (so called white screen of death).
After having to do a hard reset and reinstall all several times (not fun),
I googled for a solution (removing/replacing batter and restarting didn't work
after hundreds of attempts. Finally I found a consistent workaround on this forum.
Namely:
1. Make sure phone is not fully charged (at most 2 bars)
2. Shutdown phone
3. Disconnect usb cable, and remove battery
4. Replace battery
5. Reconnect usb cable until you see not only the blue nokia but the animated charging icon on top
(you may have to disconnect and reconnect the usb cable several times for it to show up,
if you don't see it I found it helpful to disconnect the cable from both sides on subsequent attempts)
6. Once you see the charging icon, quickly press and hold the phone power button
(it may not vibrate like you're used to)
until you see the shaking hands connecting people animation and the phone starts
7. tada, you may now use the phone
If it wasn't for 1 downside, I could almost live with this workaround since I have chargers both at home at work,
the downside is that when you do this the phone will be stuck in portrait mode.
Keep in mind that even on 20.0.27 (in fact on all version of the firmware) and even
on the original store bought factory settings phone with nothing installed,
starting the phone while it's charging may cause it will sometimes get stuck in portrait mode.
(forcing you to restart after disconnecting the usb cable)
The difference is when using starting N97 while charging as a workaround for
the white screen of death issue, the phone is guranteed to be stuck in portrait mode,
instead of it only occasionally happening.
In any case, hoping to break the cycle, I took a full backup with ovi Suite 2.0.1.35.
(All checkboxes checked including applications and data).The backup is around 7GB.
I am hoping to do a hard reset (shift, space, backspace, power button),
then format mass memory,
then restore the backup in hopes that I will be able to boot up the phone
without it crashing.
I'm worried about doing this since I've never restored an ovi suite backup before,
I'm also worried because the ovi suite has been very poorly coded to begin with.
2.x is better than the prehistoric 1.X the phone came with
(try opening ovi app maanger on 1.x with 20+ apps installed)
but still even 2.x is beta quality at best,
and it returns strange error codes when i sync contacts.
I have the following questions:
1. Will following the above restore procedure restore all my applications,
music and map data ? has anyone tried it ?
2. There is a distinct possibility that the white screen of death issue will not be resolved
by the restore, in which case I badly need some method to determine what
setting and/or what application is causing the WSOD to begin with.
Preferably some sort of bootup or system log ? Is there even such a thing ?
Keep in mind that when the phone is turned off, and the usb cable is connected,
and the phone is charging mass memory is visible on the PC it is connected to in
windows explorer. Strangely, that is the only time when the sys/system/private
folder content are also visible.
In any case If I can determine what application (if any) is causing the issue,
I'd be happy to give up using it and uninstalling it,
(it beats having a $2000 brick).
3. Is there some method to apply the power on while charging workaround described above,
without having the device get stuck in portrait mode ?
I should mention I also opened a ticket with Nokia support with the same 3 questions,
but I have my fingers crossed, and expect them to simply ignore the questions,
and ask me to either reset it or take it back to the service center. I also requested,
that on some future firmware they consider having some key combination,
to allow starting the phone in (safe mode) with no extra apps or installations on bootup.
I also suggested a visible detailed. bootup log on the root mass memory folder to allow
troubleshooting such issues (if they're worried it can affect performance,
it can be enabled by an option). I don't expect either option to be implemented though.
Nevertheless I would say the WSOD is currently the number one problem with N97 today,
it's a complete showstopper.
The only other issue I suffered after the 20.0.27 upgrade was the stuck lock issue,
where if you click the power button,
and selct lock phone and keys, it is impossible to unlock the phone with the keyguard key on the side of the phone
(it just doesn't do anything). but that has a workaround (have someone call your phone,
then swipe the bottom line right to left to unlock (the top line left to right answers the call).
Cheers and if you've read all of this, thank you for your patience.
Hani
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I think you may be referring to my workaround, as posted here (and various other forums):-
/discussions/board/message?board.id=smartphones&thread.id=179596
I've posted a few times about this. It's not an exact science, and having done it several times since this posting, I've realised that it is not necesary to actually "see" the charging icon. I really only mentioned it so you would recognise what's happening.
The fact is that, with the phone switched off, and then plugged into either the mains power supply, or the PC, by the USB cable, the screen on the phone shows white, as it starts to charge. Whether or not the "charging" icon starts to flash depends on the state of charge of the battery. If it is already full, then the white screen will go off after a while, as the phone doesn't need to be charged. If the battery needs charging, then then flashing icon will show.
This is all largely irrelevant . I only tried this "charging" thing in the first place to distract the phone from whatever problem is stopping it from going through its normal boot process. I thought if I could get the processor doing something else at the time I pressed the power button, it might just pass straight by the boot problem. Given the fact that it has been successful, my guessed logic seems to have been near the mark.
All this logic comes from many years of supporting PC systems. As has been said, this is only a workaround. The reason I've had to do this, is because I've had to do it many times since installing firmware V20.
Now, I have an unbranded UK model, code 0585162. I waited ages for V20, and, in the end, changed the code to get the euro V20. Since the UK V20 has been released, I've been wondering what the difference is, if anything, between the versions.
So today, as I do with my PCs every now and again, I had a good clearout of my phone, and rebuilt it from scratch, using the proper UK V20. I do this with Windows PCs every now and again. It gets rid of all the partially installed and uninstalled apps, temporary files, etc etc.
To prepare, I connected my phone to my PC via USB, and copied the whole of the E drive onto the PC. I gathered together all my downloaded .sis files, .wgz files etc, and made a list of all installed apps to make sure I had all the downloaded installation files.
I "backed up" my phone using PC Suite. I also use Ovi Suite sometimes, but I find PC Suite better, simpler, more technically reliable for "techy" tasks. When you do a backup, you are asked what you want to backup. Since all my music and photos are already on my PC, I don't need to back them up. Similarly my Contacts and Calendar are on the PC. For me the important thing to backup is my phone Settings. By only backing up the Settings, the backup is very quick.
Having made sure I had all my original stuff safely stored on my PC, I then reinstalled the Firmware release V20.
First I did factory reset *#7370#
Then I formatted the E drive.
Then I ran NSU to look for, then reinstall the UK V20 frirmware.
I then did another *#7370#, to be sure.
Then I restored the Settings from my backup
Then I copied the old E drive contents back from the PC (having deleted all the stuff I really didn't need)
And finally I reinstalled all my downloaded apps.
It's only been 24 hours, but so far my phone hasn't frozen at the white screen with the Nokia logo.
Fingers crossed.
As I said earlier, as with PCs, its good, every now and again, to reformat the hard disk and do a fresh install of Windows, then re-install your apps. My laptop seems to be slowly grinding to a halt, so I'm about to do the same for it.
More fingers crossed.
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My N97 experience... not all bad

When I first received my N97 at the end of June with its v10 firmware it was truly awful!
I actually went through 3 handsets in 10 days.
I experienced freezing, crashing, incorrect ringtones, slow GPS and "Out of Memory" issues constantly. I was forced, because of the low C: drive, to install widgets, themes and as many app's as possible to Mass Memory, which in turn led to problems of their own when connecting to PC Suite in anything other than PC Suite mode. I could not even install some of Nokia's own app's as they would take up the precious C: drive.
It took me quite awhile to adjust the Destinations settings, using trial and error, so that I used my home wifi and 3G whilst out.
Then, about two or three weeks later, v11 was released on Vodafone and I upgraded the firmware, using PC Suite, with no problem and was quite pleased that I did not have to reinstall everything from scratch. The only change that I noticed with v11 was that my widgets worked a little better and that my thumbnails loaded quicker. However, the phone still gave me "Out of Memory" errors, crashed and was sluggish and unresponsive to touch, sometimes requiring 3/4 taps to get it working.
Like the majority of N97 owners, I was not a happy bunny and felt ripped off when I compared the N97 to my N95 and N95 8GB. I was thoroughly cheesed off with having to go through manually clearing the browser cache every day, not being able to have theme effects on or use anything except the built in themes for fear of crashing. Also the GPS was still taking far too long to get a mediocre lock.
Then around the end of August it was announced that v12 would be launched to address some of these problems and I eagerly awaited its coming. As with all the N97 firmware releases, the Continent version was released first, this was then to be followed by the UK CV (Country Variant) at some time in the future and finally the operator branded version even later still.
It was at this point that my frustration with the N97 got the better of me and I took the decision to change the product code to the Euro one and risk voiding my warranty to get v12 that much quicker,all went surprisingly smoothly and I was able to obtain the v12 firmware weeks ahead of Vodafone's release.
The v12 firmware did bring about some minor changes but not enough to stop my handset from crashing, freezing, every now and then. I still found the phone to be sluggish and unresponsive. I was still having to spend a lot of time "nursing" it by Clearing C: drive, which was hovering around 15MB and watch my RAM usage at around 10Mb. I still could not use anything other than the built-in theme with no effects for fear of overloading the pitiful RAM.
I was also using the beta Nokia Photo Browser as this seemed to display quicker and better than the Gallery. Also, album art was a bit hit and miss although my crashes and freezes were less. To say that I was disappointed at this stage would be an understatement. I felt thoroughly cheated by Nokia who, it seemed to me, had rushed out the N97 with immature firmware just to compete with the iPhone 3GS.
I had experienced poor RAM before, with the N95, but this had been rectified to a large extent, by a firmware update. I thought about the millions of people worldwide who had purchased the N97 and had not, or could not, update the firmware and were cursing Nokia and the N97.
It would seem that Nokia had not learnt from Apple iPhone's original launch when they promised the earth and ended up refunding early adopters after pressure was brought to bear. I also despised Nokia's head in the sand approach to the lens scratching fiasco that, luckily, I have not suffered from.
By this time I was seriously considering getting rid of my N97 and moving on. It was becoming a full time job to ensure that there was enough RAM and C: drive. I was constantly having to make tradeoffs about installing certain app's and although my GPS had improved it wasn't great. I was also cheesed off using the scroll bar to go through lists and got frustrated with it on Contacts and Music, usually ending up using the Nav pad. The touch screen was still a joke with me having to constantly tap to try and get it to work.
Enough was enough!
I'd spent over a quarter of a year trying to come to terms with what was supposed to be a Nokia flagship phone costing £500 that just did not deliver.
And then I saw a preview of v20 with its kinetic scrolling and RAM and C: usage enhancements and thought I'd give the N97 one last chance.
After all, I stood to lose about half the phones cost if I tried to sell it on.
Like most of you, I waited with baited breath for the will they, won't they, release of v20.
Then, finally, it became available for my, now, unbranded Euro firmware and I jumped on it immediately.
That's where I made my first mistake, as I downloaded v20 straight away using NSU and immediately started to get freezes, crashes and rebooting. Photo's were slow and the Music library was a nightmare.
The penny then dropped, as they say, and I realised from my experiences with the N95 and N95 8GB, that with a firmware upgrade of this magnitude it was bound to cause problems if I either just upgraded or reinstalled from PC Suite backup.
I then proceeded to format both the phone and Mass Memory and reinstall everthing from scratch. Not an easy or short task I might add.
It was worth it though!
I had nearly 60MB free on C: drive, before installing themes, app's and widgets. My RAM was now 40+MB after boot up and rarely goes below 20MB.
Kinetic scrolling is a joy to use. The phone is no longer sluggish. The touch screen is very responsive. I ditched Nokia Photo Browser beta as the in-built photo's prog offered so much more. The music library is a lot better. Particularly with album art. Boot up time is quicker. Widgets are more stable, although Accuweather seem to have dropped "Current Location". My GPS achieves a more accurate, and quicker, lock than before. I experience a lot less lags. The built-in browser is a lot quicker, I can hold down a key in QWERTY to get a symbol. The speakers even sound better!
Also there was a lot of tinkering and tweaking of settings as this can make a big difference to the way the phone funtions, as we can see by the forum postings.
IMHO this was the N97 I thought I was getting in June. This is the N97 that Nokia should, and could, have released and I cannot excuse them for palming off inferior firmware.
OK, it's not perfect, but as Julia Roberts says in Pretty Woman... "it has potential".
Am I going to ditch it? The answer is no!
Because I think that v20 has gone a long way to solving a lot of the things that bugged me. It shows me what this phone is capable of. It can multi task. It can run prog's without crashing.
Some of us wax lyrical about the N95 but I remember all the complaints about the lack of RAM and it's slowness, poor camera and video. until it received it's v20 upgrade which changed the phone completely and actually put it ahead of the N95 8GB with its restricted Mass Memory.
Perhaps smart phones are becoming too smart.
We get them and fire them up, sometimes ignoring the manuals, and then shove loads of third party software on them without a thought or adjustment to settings and expect them to work perfectly. I know from my own experience that I've had to uninstall software from a handset because of conflicts or poor programming.
I know that there are delays with the release of firmware updates between the Continent, CV and operator branded handsets but this is not all down to Nokia but rather to getting country approvals and operator "adjustments".
I must stress that these are my opinions based on my usage, app's and phone model.
I understand I may come in for a lot of flak for this and I am certainly no technical genius. I'm just trying to relate my everyday experience and frustration with the N97.
As my dear old mum used to say... "Speak as you find" and I'm finding this phone a lot better than it was.
Message Edited by wildreamer on 15-Nov-2009 09:01 PM

I have had a very similar experience with the N97 and agree that now with firmware v20 the phone is just usable. It's ridiculous that to get to this point we've had to put so much work into researching solutions, resetting the phone multiple times, formatting the mass memory, reloading media and maps (also multiple times), uninstalling and reinstalling apps, and installing and reinstalling firmware updates. My wife jokingly said to me that I'd spent more time trying to get the phone running than actually using it. The sad thing is that this is pretty much true and no matter how well the phone works I will always remember the first four months of very sub par performance.
IMHO if Nokia hadn't skimped on the memory for the RAM and c drive the N97 would have suffered from a lot less problems. Also instead of spending four months trying to resolve these memory issues in the development for the v20 firmware release, they could have focussed on the multitude of other bugs. And how much do you think Nokia saved by skimping, maybe a few dollars per handset. Contrast this with how much bad publicity they have received over the N97 as well as the bad experience for people who spent US $700 for a flagship device.
Added to all these faults is the poor way that Nokia have handled this. From the head in the sand approach to the camera lens scratches and poor GPS, to the lack of Mac support, and to the complete denial that there is even a problem.
Nokia's official support is also problematic, the user to user forum is good but it should not be a replacement for official support pages (the device support pages only provide the product guide and link to the discussions forum) and getting anything other than form responses and incorrect information from the Nokia Customer Care makes this service a complete waste of time.
Will I sell my N97? No, not for the moment.
Can I recommend the N97? No!
Can I recommend any Nokia product? No!
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How can i add Chinese language support to my N97

Hi all of you!!
i hope can some body help me
i work in china and i bought my mobile from Dubai and it is just support Arabic and English
so how can i add chinese support to my mobile?? i don`t want change product code beause i want arabic languge also
just can review chinese websites and read chinese messages is enough, i know can throw change the the font but.....
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?PHPSESSID=m61ggc373rem98jjmbbnri56r4&topic=15893.0
i already try above subject but the font is very ugly and make problems for my mobile and switch off by it is self many times
before i have Nokia N82 and i was install Psiloc Crystal Chinese on it and by this program can read and write chinese but until now no have such program for N97
so how can one mobile same N97 (small laptop) not support some languages????
and how can one company same NOKIA don`t give such this serveice for the customers,
need charge is okbut need some thing usefull
thanks all and i hope can find some body help me

Dear I know that you answer me but it is not Solution, right or no? waiting for another
also why it is impossible with out third-party software? change mobile font can!!!!
did you visit this link http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?PHPSESSID=m61ggc373rem98jjmbbnri56r4&topic=15893.0
i try it but have some mistakes, but can support chinese and arabic in same time
also you speak as third-party software full the market and internet
give me one third-party software name and i will be very happy
Dear i love nokia and i will not change nokia to others but i can see around me such as IPhone, it is support most of languages together,
thank you any way, now i know nokia support discussions is useless
拜拜

My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

Hi everyone,
I know this is a user-to-user support forum but I believe a complaint to be some sort helps users to decide whether the N97 is for them or not. Before you read on, this post will contain comparisons to competitors, so if you hate apples, feel free to ignore me! (Also I don't think users should stop harassing Nokia for what they have done to us - the more complaints the better. Igoring customers is not a very good corporate strategy. Eventually it will take them down - people buy Nokia for quality, otherwise they could buy a rip-off from ebay).
Just skimming over the posts shows me that I am not alone. So let me share my experience with Nokia and the N97. I am too tired complaining about this phone, at least I think my experience has made sure that no-one of my friends and relatives is ever going to buy a Nokia again.
When I bought the phone for then 500 pounds at the Nokia flagship store in London it seemed nice enough. Good camera, decent keyboard and features competitors could only dream of. Unfortunately, that's paperwork. For a start, the much advertised facebook application was completely disfunctional and taking into account that Nokia clearly tried to compete with the iphone (my apologies again for mentioning a competitor) frankly a lame joke. I know a firmware update has somewhat relieved the situation now, but I will come to that later.
Okay, so I have disabled the facebook application. Not a drama, surely the rest will work okay. But then after a week some of the pictures I took with the built-in camera weren't accessible anymore (broken image displayed). Again, I have another camera and I was hoping for a firmware update so I ignored it. I had now started using the joikuspot app to browse the internet on my linux box. Very nice. I started using email a lot on my phone but again was disappointed. I have a £165 ipod touch here. Without kinetic scrolling and an extremely bad UI design, by which I mean the icons and menus (ignoring the graphics flaws all the time) it is no match for the ipod, so what i did was to use joiku spot with my ipod touch. Before that firmware update the N97s browser was also still buggy so I used joikuspot for that too. I was now down to using my £500 smartphone as a wireless modem. What a shame. But I was still hoping for some kind of magic update.
Then finally, I found out about the firmware update. I had to open my phone, check the serial and visit the Nokia website. Unfortunately, the Ovi software and drivers supplied with the phone did not recognize my N97 properly. Something which I think was fixed with the firmware update (anyone seeing a circular dependency here? ) Furthermore, the built-in firmware update over 3G seemed to be disabled. So I made the journey back to the flagship store in London, explaining the problem. I was greeted by an extremly rude employee. Well, I think that's not really his fault, I guess he was just sick of all the complaints. Anyways, I told him that the 3G update was not working and he started to be really patronizing telling me that I wouldn't listen to him (he said it was "working" but "disabled"). Maybe I should have told him that I am a software engineer and that in 99.9% of the cases in which we disable a feature, the reason is that it is "not working". Anyways, he kindly allowed me to use one of their machines to update the firmware "at my own risk", which worked. At no point I have received an apology for the fact that I have paid Nokia £500 to beta-test their products.
Now of course, the firmware update has succeeded, but is all fine? Far from it.... As many report on this forum the N97s battery meter is faulty. Countless times, my phone has just literally died overnight. It even forgets time and date! This is more than bad - every phone I have had so far complained about a draining battery well in advance. I had to dig out my old phone to serve as an alarm clock again - the fact that the alarm clock itself is unreliable is a alltogether different matter... One time the battery died during the day - after doing nothing for 4 hours in my sports bag (started with 1 bar down). When I had to make a call that day, for the first time in I don't know how many years I had to use a telephone box. Progress?!
The firmware update has also barely improved the email client - just a few ui glitches solved. However, the biggest issue at the moment seems to be the weird memory organization. When I buy a phone I don't want to deal with something like the c drive problem. Reinstalling applications on the 32gb partition helps somewhat but why didn't Nokia do that in the first place? Has this phone never been tested?The phone is still way too slow.
I can't comment on the iplayer app - says it needs wlan to work. But the youtube player has crashed every time i used it. And by crashing I mean it took down the whole phone with it. I admit that my ipod crashed a few times too - in just under a year (~3 times). But the reset was straightforward every time. With the N97, the only thing that seems to help is to take the battery out!
Before I forget, the N97 doesn't even work as a phone. In a 30 minute conversation, the call got dropped 4 times. I don't know whether it was because of a calibration issue with the proximity sensor or a more serious problem, all I know is that this is unacceptable!
I am sick of the phone and Nokia's service. The joikuspot app ran out and asks me to pay... I have paid £500 pounds for the bloody phone already. The adobe reader asks me to pay... (somehow it ran out without me even using it). Maybe you see why I am getting angry now - the only use case that actually put the N97 on top of my old phone was gone. What infuriated me even more, is that Nokia bundles this software with the phone. It cannot actually be deinstalled! It just sits there merrily and takes up my hard drive space.
Last but not least, I have written to Nokia already, but not received a response! This is a Nokia forum with Nokia employees following the posts. I would be very, very, very grateful if Nokia could give me a refund. However, with them not even acknowledging the various problems I somehow don't see that coming. I'll probably have to sell it with a massive loss on ebay.
Cheers,
Will
P.s.: I have all the same small issues as the other guys here - slider lock at the side not working etc. You are not alone... Has anyone complained about the music player? I have 16gb of music on the phone and scrolling is impossible! The Symbian OS is so obviously not built for a touch screen that it hurts. Of course they don't put much music on the phones in the Nokia store so people only find out when they get home...
Message Edited by alcroth on 12-Sep-2009 11:32 AM
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hi ! the nokia n97 is a really an amazing device. It keeps up to the promise of live online 24 x 7. I discovered it and wanted to share. Still there are some unanswered questions and if any vetran could help would really appreciate.
i am an user from India. and have the n97 for about 3-4 weeks now. Practically I have been living online 24 x 7 as The list of unexpected issues that a nokia n97 offers seems unending, some of which i am narrating have made me scout on the web to try n search answers.Not that i will be able to action information you provide instantly. My new phone has gone for reparis(sic), so once its back can do that & will acknowledge your replies.
My Quests:
1. First things first! How to request for & get refunds for a Nokia Phone in India.
2. Is there a touch querty as an input method? like windows mobile ? Request Know How. I now seem to agree to the feedback on one of the blogs.. that nokia designers feel that the average size of user hands would be that of big people & fingers like a japaneese teen. The physical keyboard does not seem to offer any additional functions other than text input !
3. Predictive text where in the touch screen menu, the words dont get auto completed. This increases the number of taps/input strokes. Is the n97 intelligent & learn words from sms, contacts, emails. my blackberry does so. Request Know How & any options to edit custom dictionary. Auto Punctuation ? Am i expecting too much already ?
4. Single hand use of phone impractical using touch pad t9. Entering alphanumerics on the physical querty is a nightmare... Request Know how on tips & tricks.
5. Green tick yes or v button on top left of the text input screen. friendly again only for big handed people. Could this have been at bottom right. Is alternate screen for text input touch t9 available? Requested Know how.
6. Unnecessary taps additional taps alomost in all menus...for eg.. sending a biz card from n97 requires 5 taps... in the other mobile phone systems it can be done in 3 taps. Requested Knowhow for shortcuts.
7. Can In a nokia we get a view of the entire events as single thread.... No Provision for search display against keywords upon I can get call logs, messages - Here in Nokia, no search filters / advanced search and all searches results plotted to applications vs person/events. Requested Know How if it can be done like blackberry / windows mobile.
8. Copy & Paste across applications. eg. Select text from web page copy n paste on message application.... possible on Nokia...? Requested Know How
9. Call& Event Logs e.g Missed calls. If there are 5 missed calls the log will show the last called time only. In most other mobile systems Blackberry, windows each event is logged against a user. Requested know how on how this is handled in Nokia.
10. Lag in picture display upon call. Number displays first and after few seconds lag the pic pops up. Is this normal & acceptable ? Other windows / rim devices show it instantly.
11. When will Nokia enable usage of Native clients like google talk, yahoo like blackberry, iphone ? Any know how on possibility of release. Any equal alternatives suggested for n97. Tried Nimbuzz, Fring, Ebuddy. Miss the chat message notification icon on home screen, notification on the chat messaging icon, sound, breathing lights.
12. Is there any planning for better email client? Likely Release dates?
13. The Java App for GMAIL on blackberry shows an indicator on icon in addition to customised alert setting tone & breathing light for new messages. Retreiving Emails is consistent & auto on other devices. The Nokia Does not seem to auto refresh + No Notification. How is it handled on Nokia ?
14. Can user friendliness be something where we can do actions with a contact or on contacts screen single view... e.g see contact on google map, Help on contacts screen/n97 help, lookup contact on server, filter by category. new address, new group, view, edit, delete, activity log (incl sms, mms, email, calls), call, sms, mms, email, send as attachment, send as im, add a custom ring tone, add picture, options - sort by, separators, sync settings, actions, switch
applications, exit. We have seen it on inexpensive phones. is it possible to be done on Nokia?
SOME OF MY STILL UNRESOLVED PROBLEMS Post upgrade to ver 12. Did you also face similar bugs/issues?
15. Contacts inaccessible – “Memory Full Error”. No other applications were active at the time of the error. Just unable to reach any of my 3500 contacts through the contacts options & do anything.
16. Pbk2 error upon selecting contacts in the messaging application.
17. Audio Delay upon receiving a call. No Sound upon connection of incoming call. Especially if picked up too fast.
18. Shows as searching for network constantly many times a day. We have 2 n97s & observed that both n97 almost have similar timing of network loss. Whereas, our other devices like blackberry do not show any weak signal signs.
19. GPS Lock. Keeps searching for GPS locks constantly i.e Drops connection to GPS network frequently.
20. Unpredictive battery talk time, standby & required Charge time.
21. Voice inaudible at other end, when using loudspeaker & especially during calls from moving vehicle.
22. Camera:
a. Picture clarity issues. Secondary camera highly pixelated. Primary camera shows light flooding on pictures. Clarity Missing.
b. Erroneous Time stamp on images.
c.Lens Cover Started to show minor scratch pressure.
23. Ovi Suite recommends erroneous updates for E.g Maps 3
24. Text Input touch t9 screen freezes / Hangs, especially when entering special characters like period(.), comma(,), exclamation (!) etc
25. Selectively & at random contact Name not displayed on Caller ID (sometimes)
26. Selectively Message & Message delivery display number, instead of stored contact names.
27. Sync Issue, All contacts not synced always.
How to sync "categories" field as stored in outlook or how to map custom fields to Nokia.
28. Format Mass Memory error, Unable to format. Unable to delete specific files.
29. The auto lock... When attempted to unlock with querty out .. it still opens in portrait mode ?
30. SMS Logs Not updated. e.g any sms sent before storing a contact.... after storing or adding
contact the number does not get automatically updated to the name. It reflects the number still in the logs.
31. Picture caller... The face is half cut ..Looks weird on most images... as the number is not transparent. In landscape mode there is enough space on the screen to put up the answer or reject buttons and displaying the numbers.
32. Browser will close on its own & return to menu or home screen.
thanks in advance for your time to stop & read. Pls do send any information that you think will be useful to me for making the n97 do some work.
NEW additions:
(tested on another n97)
33. Predictive Text :
Usage for auto word completion only on physical keyboard, when the Dpad down key is used it throws up options but the way the scroll is designed you can see the full word and one makes mistakes.
34. another strange behaviour is on the text input... this was on an email i was trying to reply. the stylus touch will paste the last keyed in word !! we wonder why.
35. and while showing off the second n97 we have (again 3-4 weeks old) - we were asked how much did we pay for this second hand unit - 50% off .. apparently the comment as the surface has got scratched very badly.
i hope the info is good use to others who want to take the risk of buying this device

Multiple Calendar Sync - Nokia N97

Hi all,
I have two calendars in my MS Office Outlook 2003 and I only want to sync one of them to my phone (the personal one).
Is there any way to do this in PC Suite or is there another piece of software I need to be using?
Regards,
Ross Page
ISgJackson
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There's a free app / iTune plugin that makes your N97 appear as a playlist in Itunes but you can't (or couldn't) then create separate playlists for use on the phone.
I've found the best way for me is to do the following:
Create your playlist in Itunes
Create the PLaylist in Ovi Music
Darg and drop the files from itunes to Ovi
Sync the Ovi Playlist with your N97
Bit painful but it works
Hope it helps

Are we Beta testing the N97 for Nokia?

Because if i was given this as a beta release i would have told them what i thought, the current launch version on the N97 with V10 firmware is barely an Alpha release, this phone was a rush job thrown out on the market to coincide with the launch of the iphone 3Gs.
This is my fourth N series, N80, N95, N95 8gb (the best N series yet), and now this N97 what should be Nokia's flagship, but being stripped of apps and filled with Trial versions to please the accountants at Nokia.
Day one and it locked up twice, corrupted my contacts when synced with OVI, and ran down to less than 4mb on the C drive, day 2 i found the GPS was not working, it was a joke, walking down the road under a clear sky and it could not hold a signal lock, driving was worse barely holding a signal for a few seconds and as for sitting spinning it round for an age to get the compass to work........forget it id rather be lost than look like a **bleep**.
Deleting apps and reinstalling them on the mass memory frees up some space, but why should we have to do this, the whole phone is badly thought out and configured.
Soon after the stylus supplied with the phone and attached to the phones only tie point scratched my screen, what was wrong with a rear cover with a bump and a thin PDA style stylus, no not good enough for Nokia, a fat thing on a string will do for them.
New Firmware release 4 days after UK launch and still not available to most users as it has not been network approved yet, 3 network say its Nokia's job and they are delaying things, Nokia say its the networks delay. Come on if it was needed that quickly why leave most of your customers waiting, or just get to work on a layered OS with a standardised core with a network layer, so everyone can have the updated without waiting.
4 weeks in on this phone, i too have the scratched camera lens, still No working GPS, and having some good negotiations with Three to try to reverse the contact upgrade, as i don't think another N97 will last any longer than this one.
I see Nokia spending Millions on punting the N97, TV, Billboards, Net adds, why push so hard on what is a sub standard product, could you imagine Joe public trying to free off some memory by moving apps, tell the care centres to brace themselves the N97 flood will be coming their way.
What next, well if 3 don't cancel the upgrade, then Nokia will have to fix my phone again and again and again untill it works as advertised, in the mean time i am off to get in touch with watchdog so they can let Joe Public know what to expect from an N97.
Rob
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I don't believe we're beta testing the N97 for Nokia. Beta testing suggests it is in a state prior to production. Nokia's track record (at least to me) seems that leading edge phones never reach a stable plateau.
What I believe happens is the phone is released and remains unstable until they sort of perfect the platform, then a new handset is released bringing a whole new world of bugs and problems and so the cycle continues.
By the time the phone is suitable for every day use it is, by today's technological stance, ancient and the damage has already been done to the reputation.
S40 phones seem to fare much better, mainly because it is much more widely used within Nokia. S60 is up against some fine competition from vendors who will rush fixes out.. Nokia only ever seems to rush phones out. It isn't the same and it shows (see their forcast for the next 6 months)
I honestly would not be surprised if this flagship phone limps on in a partially functional state until it is superceeded by a budget blackberry clone.
Sad? Very! Am I being cynical, or telling it like it is.
I'd be real interested to know if any exec at Nokia used the N97 in the weeks before it was released.. Not that I'm a fan, but we all know Stevie J used an iphone long before it was released.. I kind of get the impression they must all use very basic "corporate" s40 handsets and assume their flagship product must be of the same calibre.
Next release, why not give 100 people N97 for testing, real testing. It seems Nokias quality assurance team is out of touch with what a $700 handset demands.. ooooh, I gasp in awe at your 30 MB of free capactity when you remove ALL the applications you can. (It's like having a 2TB hard drive in a computer and continuing to boot from a floppy)
I appreciate there are product time lines to meet, but if Nokia were aiming to compete with the likes of the pre, iphone and the various android handsets (not even mentioning windows mobile) rushing out a phone like this was very wide of the mark. Concept wise, the N97 is a great design.. the implementation of both the hardware and software just isn't going to cut it in todays market..
(but this is what they want? you'll get bored with the handset and buy a replacement! yeay!)

The N97, Ovi, and some of my hatred.

This is what's pi$$es me most off at the moment. There's more, but I can't be arsed to mentally whip myself by reminding myself about it. But this should cover my main points of bloodraging fury.
The camera. Why is the production N97 equipped with a camera that would embarrass a prototype?
It drowns the entire left side in led light when the so called flash is used?
While I'm at it, why is there not a proper flash? If Sony bloody Ericsson can do it, so can Nokia.
And then there's the protective cover that isn't protective, but is in fact the freaking opposite of protective.
Why does my lens have scratches because of the cover? And it isn't just me either.
Try googling "n97 scratched camera" and see what results you get.
There are someone in Nokia who should go back to working in a boot factory.
There were no touch pen in the box the N97 came with. Which is just as good, because there's no place in the phone to store it. I tried to use it with a pen from a Nokia 5800, and surprise, surprise, it was a huge improvement. So therefore it could not be a part of the N97 package. If it's any good, the N97 couldn't have it. Just like a better placement of the camera leds such as on the N97 mini, not for the big N97.
Ovi suite. The old PC Suite might've been old, but newer isn't always better. There's several things about Ovi suite I that makes me want go to Finland only to slap Nokia programmers across the face with rancid salmons.
For instance, why, oh fcuking why, is there no bleeding obvious way of moving movies from the N97 to my computer like there was on PC Suite. It had a film strip icon, hooray! The Ovi suite only want to synchronize all the images I have in "My Pictures" folder, even AFTER I have selected a different folder to synch with?
I do abso-fcuking-lutely not want to have all the **bleep** from My Pictures on my mobile phone.
I have even MOOOOVED all the images from the old My Pictures, to a different folder just because Ovi didn't want tolet go of the idea of putting all my old My Pictures images on the N97. And yeeeeeeeezzz.... I have restarted Ovi, but no good.
Restarted my computer, yup, still NFG.
Another thing that makes me truly furious. Playing music on the piece of $hit that I was stupid enough to buy without testing first (because all the previous Nokias I had were excellent mobiles at the times they were new).
I were under the obviously wrong impression that all I have to do to put some music to my retarded mobile was to just adding it by using Ovi. Surely I could play whatever tune I wanted once they were on my mobil, just like on the N95?
Could I heck. The tunes are undoubtedly on the mobile, the Ovi on a different computer sees them on the mobile, but I cannot access them from the mobile. As far as the crabby user interface on the N97 is concerned, there's just the sound files I made with the mobile itself on on there. Nothing else at all in the Music app.
Ovi doesn't do ANYTHING better for me than the old PC Suite did. The things that are allegedly improved by jamming Ovi in my virtual throat are not something I want anyway. Ovi looks gayer though, presumably to suck up to the Apple-drones.
Who by the way got a real nice piece of hardware in the iPhone. Just a shame about having to deal with Satans iTunes by going that route.
On the positive note, Maps is the saving grace of Nokia for me. Otherwise I'd enjoy throwing the N97 at a brick wall, or jumping on it, and urinate all over the remains. I hate this mobile with a passion, so I might go back to the N95 until the next flagship Nokia. And if it isn't at least as good as the competitors, I've bought my last Nokia after many models of Nokias. The user interface isn't a reason to stay with Nokia anymore, so why bother?
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The biggest n97 alternative IMO is the Samsung OmniaPRO B7610 It runs on WinMo, but I like WinMo, so....
Anyway, I understand your gripe. The n97 was a bad unit. However regarding the new Nokia that would make you smile, I am not sure if this would do the trick but later this year Symbian^2 and Maemo 6 will be released
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_tease_with_symbian_ui_improvements_coming_in_2010-news-1300.php
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