QT7 / animation codec corrupts movie

Digitizing SDI video using Kona 2 and FCP 5 on OS 10.4.2. Clip looks OK in FCP. Then I export as QT movie using lossless animation codec. Most clips play fine in QT Player, but about one in ten have strange corruption: they look fine while playing but show wierd artifacts (portions of previous frames 1-3 seconds earlier) when stopped. Shuttling the clip also shows problem, restarting playback from midpoint plays garbage, but playback from the beginning then looks fine again (until stopped). Same file plays back just fine under QT 6.5 in both Mac and PC. But not in QT 7.0.1 or 7.0.2 in either Mac or PC!
It's not just a display issue either. When imported into Avid (PC), garbage becomes permanent. Seemed like a keyframe issue, so I tried playing with the "keyframe every... setting" which fixed some clips but not all.

Same thing here after updating to Tiger - and on TWO machines - a dual G5 and a dual G4. One out of every 10 files compressed with Animation Codec or so gives bizarre double frames, hangs on playback or won't even copy to another drive. Exporting to another codec sometimes helps, but the glitches often make it into the new file.
APPLE - ***??!?!?!?!?
This is causing a LOT of trouble on my end, as the client is expecting all these files today - which take forever to render out of my 3D program and now several of them will have to be rerendered!!!!!
This better be fixed in 7.0.4.

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I tried reinstalling QT but to no avail, nothing changed. I've looked through Library/QuickTime subfolder, and only items I could find were QuickTimeMPEG2.component, Perian.component, ffmpeg.component, and AppleIntermediateCodec.component.
I'm slowly going crazy over here, because nothing I tried worked.
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Hah, found out what's the problem. It is not my computer, it is not my QuickTime got corrupt. It is QuickTime's bug decoding movie file encoded using following combination of settings:
Quick Time encoder
Compression Type: Animation
Depth: Millions of colors+ (alpha channel included)
Quality: Best
ParticleIllusion
Output options
Save Alpha - enabled
Remove Black bg from RBG channels - if this item is enabled, this is exactly what gives QT problems trying to encode it. I repeat, this option must be enabled in some cases (it removes that nasty black-dirt-looking extra halo glow around the object that already has some kind of glow applied to it). It makes your animation rendered with alpha channel a lot better looking and animation seamlessly blends with any kind of colored background. Well, QT has problems "reading" this format.
In the same time, if you import such animation rendered with this option enabled into Flash, everything looks perfectly fine. It's just QuickTime won't play it properly.
Every single Mac I checked has this same problem, and it's not Mac's problem, it is QuickTime problem.
I have two examples, you can see it yourself:
First one is when black bg is still present in RGB channels (animation looks exactly as it should):
http://www.sasha-z-creations.com/quicktime/Example_BlackPresent.mov
And second one is when black bg is removed from RGB channels (colors looks weird):
http://www.sasha-z-creations.com/quicktime/Example_BlackRemoved.mov
I repeat, both examples look exactly the same (great looking) when imported into Flash dev utility.
Cheers!

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I'm also having trouble with this same issue. I've been trying to change the Quicktime Default Setting to 10-bit uncompressed (btw codec works fine out directly out of QT and other apps), or to use the command line to do quick renders of tiff frame sequences to QT 10-bit. I think its a problem with my syntax on the command line. As per the manual I set up a fileout in a script with 10-bit as the codec, opened the script in Textedit and followed the instructions on p393, and dropped it into the include/startup directory. Below is a copy of the Textedit view of the script output settings. Also, If I want to use these settings the command line what should I change? The quotation marks, commas etc?
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0, "100W@c6000WDcsuHpoe10pFnKA6W230PPMMRH#0LgfI5ALV1EaKGn3DG3214QaPb03SeOBPg00K1bY AESIIW0KAbabF7YWOQan8401v6QvQehFnRYIBt9be1B4AEjYA6ci8YmM#IKXCg5aRMZC2MXBM0Ani04w HAJLmBrQ97MtegeEEO9d5oBoxCgv7GNhEOvai8INwFwb2roIf91bvbr040HAK4IYCW0",
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error: - NRiCompressor - corrupted input data (length)
The QuickTime codec specified in the global default could not be selected. The system default codec will be selected.
So it renders to Animation. Something else I found was that the example on p393 in the manual is for 10-bit uncompressed - so I tried copying it right off the page, into Textedit, and into the include/startup dir - still no joy.
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Then i restarted AE and my computer a few times and suddenly it worked. but after closing AE again, AE does the same error. It does not work even with its own rendered Files from CC!!
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