Quad G5 or wait for Mac Pro?

Hi. So I'm finally making the switch to Mac! Should I get the Quad G5 or should I wait for the Mac Pro? Also, What would be better, dual 23" monitors or a single 30" monitor?
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The other question is when do you need it. You can bet that even if the Mac Pro's (presuming that's the new name, that's what I've been guessing and it seems logical, but I haven't seen anything official, yet) announced in August, that getting one before October will be a neat trick unless you're writing a review for one of the big Mac mags or websites.
Moreover, Adobe especially has taken a wait and wait some more approach with respect to the creative suite. I expect CS3 to be universal and available prior to the end of the year, but when? Who knows. Moreover, I'm always leery of using critical apps on a first gen transition machine where the app has had significant rewrites/porting done.
If it were my money, I'd buy the Quad G5 now because you can work in all those apps you mentioned today and the next versions will work as well. The key is today, tho. If you can wait on the new box and the accompanying apps (meaning likely October), then definitely wait since the MacPro's are likely to be wicked fast and worth the wait. The caveat being the cutting edge sometimes cuts... If your ability to pay rent depends on working now, then current G5, no question. If being ahead of the curve in a few months is better, then wait. 'Course, there's probably another dozen ways to parse it, but you get the picture.
As for monitors, the question to me is what is your workflow. I would go with the single 30" monitor because you get a longer timeline view, bigger viewing windows and less desk real estate. But if you really need a palette screen because that's your workflow and you just need the palettes to be out of the way, then the question would be more like, "do I go with a 30" and 17" or two 23" monitors." I, frankly, am over the dual monitor craze. Too much neck movement for me. The 30" monitor is gigantic and should be plenty big enough.
Ymmv, hope this helps.

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