Quality and Interlace problems.

Alright, I'm fairly sure these two problems are related.
I have a device hookes up to my camera that requires me to separate the interlacing fields once I import my footage. However, Final Cut keeps blending it together while I'm capturing, resulting in very muddy looking footage. Is there some hidden option somewhere to stop it from messing with my interlacing? (which, by the way, should be crisp, as it isn't affected by image quality.)

Hmm. It looks like I was actually judging the capture by the preview window. I exported and opened it in After Effects, and the fields are completely separate and perfect.
It's a device designed to shoot in 3d, it records the secondary perspective using a mirror and a 1/60 of a second flickering lcd to switch between them. This results in one field coming from the secondary view, and the other field coming from the primary view. Separate them, and then combine them as two images and you have a 3d image ready for viewing. It's actually quite nifty, but they aren't being made anymore.
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