Quality issues w export to MPEG2-DVD

I'm using CS4, creating moving still images, some directly in the timeline and some from After Effects. The pictures (imported at resolutions above the timeline SD widescreen rate and then scaled down) in the timeline in the Program box and on my separate monitor (through Matrox breakout box) look clear and sharp. However the DVD created comes out noticably softer (like it's slightly out of focus).
To create the DVD file I use File/Export/Media; then in Media Encoder I set :
     Format: MPEG2-DVD
     Video: Quality @ 5
     Widescreen (which is how the program is set)
     Bitrate Encoding: CBR
     Bitrate: 7
     from the drop-down menu I checked Use Maximum Render Quality
To compare the original timeline to the DVD file, I imported the resulting MPEG2 file and added it to a video track above the original picture video track, so I could toggle between the two to compare them.
Am I missing something here? I would really like to get a DVD to look as good as the Premiere timeline.

A lot depends on the source material here - how much motion content, etc. There are a lot of articles and tutorials on encoding as it is still somewhat of an art form.
Some thoughts or ideas for you to consider:
Consider using VBR (Variable Bit Rate) which will use your data rate more effectively in some cases
use two pass CBR (or 2-pass VBR). This will give it extra quality by looking at it twice. It will take longer to encode.
Look at the output preview tab when in the export media to view what a frame would look like (sometimes it helps)
Render short segments of test media to help you find the best settings for your source material.
You might consider a 3rd party encoding program if you really need that extra 10% - Sorenson Squeeze and On2's Flix are both good products. Other guys here will chime in with some inexpensive alternatives - maybe VisualHub.
MPEG2 breaks down most when you have high motion content. things like a wide shot of a tree with the wind blowing through it drives MPEG2 crazy.
Hope this helps,
Dennis

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Cs3 export for mpeg2-dvd settings -happy as a clam-

Hi,
Im using CS3...
I want to export from CS3 to mpeg2-dvd preset ( ntsc high quality, which is set to 4 out of 5 on the quality slider setting )
My footage is 720x480i 29.97, 16:9
The dvd will be watched on computer and Digital TV ... so I'm thinking I will convert to progressive.
My bitrates in the preset are:
min: 1.5
avg: 4
max: 7
gop m frames 3
n frames 15
The file size exported is 1.4 gig. It looks OK but not great compared to timeline playback. I've been looking at my notes ---about making exports----but I am so happy ( happy as a clam ! ) ...that I even managed to get a 51 minute story out of this source material ( walking and walking and walking , long story..., not to mention probs with the continuity ).... as I was saying, I am so happy with the product--- I was thinking maybe there's some good advice re: export while I go get some beer to celebrate !
..... I was wondering if you all might have some suggestions for changing my bitrate settings to give me a better quality export....and I will then burn a DVD someday with that exported file.
Rod

Hi ,
Thanks Bill..yes, I've looked at those threads, those guys are incredibly
cool...very knowledgeable....
Oddly enough a lot of what they know has come from experimenting and "trial
and error" type stuff....or else is wouldn't be as original and good as it
is.
I admire that.
I'm going to up my avg bitrate and see what happens...screw around with that
a few times ...see how it goes...
You see, at the moment I am just doing the video, no stills ( no slide show)
and no music track ...so that will change as I add more stuff....the
bitrates and overall compression.. I do , thanks to all you guys, know that
much...Just thought I would go get some beers and ask for 51 mins for the
preset of mpeg2-dvd- from CS3 might be....what a better rate might be right
off the bat....
No big deal.
You have no idea !!!! I am sure happy clams make everything better, whether
it's chowder or broadway plays !!!! (or was that about investing clams? )
Rod

Exporting as MPEG2 DVD or MPEG2 Blu-ray makes my clips shorter!?

Hi,
Firstly - I am shooting footage on a Panasonic HDC-HS300 using the 1080i 25 default setting, and importing the AVCHD file as such into Premiere Pro CS4 v.4.2.1.
My aim is to get the best image quality results possible using a workflow where I take the raw AVCHD footage (possibly converted to AVI first) into Premiere Pro, Dynamic Linking to After Effects for color correction etc, and Dynamic Linking back to Premiere Pro for final export/render in several different formats for several different purposes.
Anyway - Here's the problem:
I have been playing with different ways to do this (for MANY hours), and have found that whenever I attempt to export/render out from Premiere Pro with Adobe Media Encoder using either the MPEG2 DVD or MPEG2 Blu-ray (both using the default HDTV 1080i 25 settings), I end up with clips that are shorter than the original clips! For example, I have been editing a clip that was originally 56 seconds long, but after the export/render it is only 48 seconds long.
To make things even stranger, the accompanying audio file that is rendered out along side the MPEG video file not shortened and comes out as 56 seconds long, as it is supposed to be.
Someone please help....?
Thanks
Mikkel
P.S. If I were to convert the AVCHD to an AVI format, which would be the best applications and formats to do so?

Firstly - The reason for converting AVCHD to AVI is because despite Adobe claiming that CS4 is native AVCHD, the reality is that if I import AVCHD and edit it in Premiere Pro, color correct in After Effects and then render it out from Premiere Pro, I end up with either very significant judder or artifacts in the final result. I stress that this only happens when the input into Premiere Pro is AVCHD, NOT when I use converted (lossless - Lagarith) AVI as my input. In other words, it DOES serve a purpose to convert AVCHD to AVI first.
Secondly - I am NOT using 29.97 or 30 fps.
I am exporting in MPEG2 HDTV 1080i25 (i.e. 25 fps, which is the only available option for this preset), as I wrote in my original post...

Unable to export to MPEG2-DVD! Very weird situation .. Please Help!

Hi Folks,
I've been using Pro for years.
Currently using CS6 - a fresh install from the cloud as of a couple days ago.
So, I have a project ready for DVD.
File / Export Media .. this brings up the Export Settings.
I choose MPEG2-DVD as the Format with Match Source Attributes as the Preset, then hit Queue.
Normally, this would queue the export in Adobe Media Encoder as .m2v but for some unexplicable reason - this isn't occuring.
Instead, Adobe Media Encoder drops the MPEG2-DVD format and replaces with the AAC Audio format!?
What the?
Am I losing the plot? Have I missed something?
File / Export Media / Format MPEG2-DVD = .aac file (only) in Adobe Media Encoder??

Thank you Ann.
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Quality Issues on Export

I'm having a heck of a time with this. I'm shooting with a Sanyo Xacti, whose native format is MP4 burned to an SD card. Since FCE won't handle these files directly, I'm transcoding to DVCPRO50 with MPEG Streamclip.
I bring these into FCE and everything works fine. But the export quality out of FCE is pretty awful, no matter what I do. I've tried about all the export options in all sizes. None of them are even close to the orginal MP4 quality. (They're shot in 640X480SHQ
If played in QuickTime, the DVCPRO conversions look terrific. iMovie seems to do a better job with these files.
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Unfortunately, your example is still queued.
edit_
Format: MPEG2
Range: Entire Sequence
Preset: custom
Now, my question: is this your Project Preset, or more likely your Export setting? It appears that you are using the AVI (uncompressed from AE) as your source material. Is this correct? What is the Field Dominance of your Imported AVI? What is the Field Dominance of your Exported MPEG-2?
Your issue sounds like a Field Dominance/Order problem. Per the other question, you are in PAL-land, right?
If needed, you can run all files through G-Spot to get info on their Field Dominance/Order. This would be the first thing that I would look into. If you have, and all is fine, then ignore my comments. We'll just wait until your example makes it out of queue.
Good luck,
Hunt

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I'm a new user to garageband and have been learning quite a lot about it and how to work with it.
My band recorded some songs tonight on garageband. I have a basic mixer hooked into the line in port of my macbook pro. When I tried to export it to itunes, the completed song, the quality from gb3 to itunes was horrible. In gb, it sounded really good, yet when it played back in itunes, it was of quite low quality. I'm curious if there are any preferences or advance options I missed when exporting from GB into itunes.
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Hey thanks for everyone's help. I played with the input volume, track volume and master track volume and the songs sound fine (well, still a bit overmodulated, but nothing I can do, it was recorded live).
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I have two projects that I am attempting to export using MPEG2-DVD, both exports begin to playback correctly but about half way through the video begins cutting out, flashing white and and green, and then cuts to completely green. Also the sequence length is 25:18, and after export it is 18:05. Export preset for MPEG2-DVD was NTSC 23.976p Wide, nothing else changed. I also tried exporting with Media Encoder, with the same results.
Video was shot with Canon DSLR and GoPro at 24p. Project is to 23.976fps. Video effects added in sequence are Warp Stabilizer, Lumetri looks, Brightness & Contrast, and Three-Way Color Corrector. I disabled all effects, exported with same settings as before, video was at the same shortened length, but the white and green coloring is gone.
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Processor
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Problems exporting and playback the MPEG2-DVD videos, from .MP4 file!

I have PremiereProCS4 v.4.2.1 installed on this PC:
OS:WindowsXPProx64Bit; CPU:IntelCore2Quad Q9650; RAM:4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 Kingston; HDD:3x500GB WestrnDigital Caviar Green; VGA: Sparkle GeForce 9400GT 512MB.
I have downloaded an AVCHD file .MTS 1920x1080p 25p, made by Canon HF100 AVCHD camcorder, from this source (.rar file):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RWR5MNYHhttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=B9ZDX2RZ
The videos in question called: "25pf_1.25_f1.8.MTS" playback and export from Premiere as MPEG2-DVD very well.
I playbacked it on Premiere on the second Monitor as "OutputDevice". All Ok.
I playbacked also the DVD made with EncoreCS4, on the external DVD set-top-box-player. All OK.
I downloaded also another clip 1080p 25p, converted as .mp4, from the same author, imported then in Premiere with Preset "XDCAM EX 1080p 25p" (470MB) :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B9ZDX2RZ
No problems with playback.
Exported as MPEG2-DVD PAL "Lower Field First".
Opened in NeroShowTime Player: the video have a serious interruptions of the playback, some moments plays back-and-forward, and it isn't fluid at all!
I tried to create a DVD with EncoreCS4 and played it with DVD Player set-top-box, and the result is bad, and is the same as the playback on my PC with NeroShowTime Player. It present the back-and-forwars interruptions.
I tried also to create an AVCHD Project 1080p 25p and import the .MP4 file, but the problem persists !
After exporting them, and played-back on NeroShowTime and on Set-Top-Box Player, the video have strange behavior, and plays back-and-forward!
1) What Preset in Premiere should I use to editing, for this .MP4 file format, (filmed with Canon HF100 AVCHD and converted from original .MTS format to .MP4 format)?
2) Is this a transcoding problem?
3) Is this an exporting MPEG2-DVD PAL field-order issue?
This is my bad exported MPEG2-DVD converted file, available for downloading:
http://rapidshare.com/files/337858976/Canon_HF100_1920x1080p_25p_01_AVCHD25p.m2v.html
Strange! With .MTS files I haven't any exporting problems at all!
Please response me hurry!
Many Thanks!
Horsepower.

OK! Sanyo use a bad format.
But about JVC GY-HM100 Professional:
I know this model very well!
It records to .MP4 XDCAM_EX at the same manner of Professionals Sony Camcorder such this: Sony XDCAM_EX model "PMW-EX1" price €6.478,80.
This JVC GY-HM100 camcorder is not tha same as Consumer JVC camcorders.
It doesn't record MOD or TOD files.
It records .MP4 files editables in Premiere with XDCAM_EX "Preset"!
See those details:
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/HDTV/manual/editing1.html
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/hm100/content.jsp?model_id=MDL101845&attributeId=2&feature_id=02
See also this page:
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/hm100/content.jsp?model_id=MDL101845&attributeId=12&feature_id=12
The first Brochure called "A Guide to the Most Efficient Workflow with ProHD
(6 pg brochure)" explain very well the .MP4 - XDCAM_EX format and the Editing process that should be with Adobe PremiereProCS4.
I have inspected the downloaded .mp4 file in question, and GSPOT v.2.70a reading this:
-CONTAINER:
     isom: MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
-VIDEO:
     CODEC:avc1
     NAME: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC
-AUDIO:
      CODEC: mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC
1c) Is this an AVCHD video codec?

Slow rendering from DVCPro-HD to MPEG2-DVD?

I have a home built PC with a quadcore 9450 chip, 8GB ram, Vista-64 Business, Mercury rendering (GTX460) - so it's not a particularly slow machine. My current project is 2 hours, 45 minutes long, shot on DVC-Pro HD 720-30P. It is one continuous take from a concert. I've added chapter points for each song, but otherwise have not edited it (besides mixing the audio levels.) With CS5, to export to MPEG2-DVD (VBR-one pass, quality level 5) takes about 16 to 17 hours. A friend with an i7 computer (which I built for him) says I need to contact Adobe because it should not be taking that long to render. If I import the Premiere sequence directly into Encore, that render takes only a few hours (not sure of the exact time) but the quality sucks. My 17 hour render looks pretty awesome for such a long project. With CS4 and a similar length project, it was around 7 or 8 hours with the same machine. Is something wrong, or is it normal for such long render times?

If I understand it correctly, your time-line is 2:45 (hh:mm) long and takes around 17 hours to export. Correct?
That is pretty good for a Q9450 with 8 GB RAM. Those systems are on average around 15 - 20 times slower than a fast system with MPEG2-DVD export, so it would take a fast system around 1 hour. Now that looks like a perfectly acceptable figure. You have to keep in mind that with hardware MPE you can only compare that with CS4 export times with MRQ (Maximum Render Quality) turned on, and my guess is that you are comparing it to CS4 times WITHOUT MRQ.
Have a look at the PPBM5 Benchmark and notice where the Q9450 systems are. They are all pretty close to the bottom of the list.
Seeing those results, one can argue your statement.
so it's not a particularly slow machine.
Of course much depends on your particular time-line, but if I take my benchmark results (with a lowly i7-920) versus another Q9450 system, I guess that my export times with your time-line would be around 1:06.
Maybe not the reaction you were looking for, but I can't change statistical results.
@ Colin: The OP never said he has MRQ enabled. Where do you get that from? He said he had hardware MPE enabled. And with his timeline, setting MRQ on would not influence his export times, since there is nothing in his single track time-line to profit from MRQ and it is all handled by the MPE engine. At least in this case.

Exporting through Adobe Media Encoder as MPEG2-DVD but quality is pixelated. Help!

So, I am exporting my project through media encoder - MPEG2-DVD, Quality 5, NTSC, 29.97 drop frame, Progressive, Standard 4:3, VBR 2 Pass, 7.4697, 7.4697, 8.0382, Frames 3 & 15. I have done this process many, many times. Today, I am getting this pixelated junk when I pull the exported file into Encore. It looks smooth in the window prior to export but then it comes out like this. I am using footage that I captured into Premiere Pro and animation created in After Effects. Can anyone help?

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Frame Skip on MPEG2-DVD Export with 24fps source file to 23.976

I'm trying to solve an issue that I've been having for the past week on a DVD I'm hoping to get to the factory for replication by New Years.
My source file is a TRUE 24.00fps 1080p Quicktime Uncompressed (it was shot on film, and originally released on film...that's why it's true 24 instead of 23.976)
I put it in a 720x480 24fps sequence in Premiere CS5, and exported as an MPEG2-DVD for my upcoming DVD. I used the following settings:
Quality 5
Frame Rate: 23.976
Field Order: Progressive
Pixel Aspect Ratio: Widescreen 16:9
Render At Maximum Depth
VBR 1-Pass
Min: 2.8
Target: 6
Max: 9
GOP Settings:
M Frames: 3
N Frames: 12
The resulting DVD always seems fine when I'm playing it, the motion and field order look great. But in the exact same scene with a heavy-motion steadicam shot through a hallway, there always seems to be a frame skipping. An entire frame that just goes missing for no apparent reason. It is not a consistent frame....it changes every time I encode, but it is always within 2 or 3 seconds of the same place in the movie. The wierd part is the movie doesn't seem to fall out of sync....this frame just disappears.
Any help would be much appreciated. This is driving me up a wall!!!!
Thanks,
Doron Kipper
DoronKipper -a t- gmail.com
www.MisdirectionMovie.net

1st, you should not put your email in a message, since it WILL be harvested & used by spammers
2nd, I don't do 24p but isn't there a "pull down" setting you have to use?

Motion blur issue once exported to DVD through Encore

I have 59.94 HD footage. I edit it, export it through Adobe Media Encoder to Mpeg-2 DVD at 29.97, drop-frame, lower field dominance. I then import that .m2v file into Encore, and then export to DVD, without re-transcoding or encoding anything. The DVD plays back with a 24p-like jitter, or blur to it. I do not understand this. After encoding the .m2v file, I went back and played that on windows media player, and other media players, and the video played back as it should originally, very smooth. Why is it that in between creating the .m2v and exporting the DVD in Encore, I am getting this 24p-like blur/jitter to the video? Does it matter that some of these videos I am putting to DVD-DL and are quite large? Hope someone can help. Thanks. Any other info needed, I will supply for you.

Matrox, velocity and anyother hardware based NLEs use a 720 x 486 timeline. I've exported countless SD files through AME and the m2v files played fine through a Windows media and VLC, They also imported and burned to DVD with Encore flawlessly. SD is not the issue at all.
The problem is as stated in the original posting is.
I export the HD timeline(59.94) through AME as a MPEG2-DVD (29.97 Lower field) and the file plays fine in the WIndows Media Player and VLC. No jitter. Perfect
It's when I put the m2v encoded from a HD (720 x 1280 59,94 frame rate as a MPEG2-DVD in AME ) in encore ( do not transcode ) and then burn to a DL DVD. When the DVD is played back, the jitter issue arises.

Exporting a mpeg2 to burn onto a dvd

Hi, I am using adobe premiere elements 8.
Basically I have lots and lots of mp2t video files which I recorded with a full HD (1920 x1080) panasonic camera. I need to burn them on a dvd and I have tried several times in premiere elements but it produces an error code and can't complete. I've re installed the program several times and on different computers.
So I thought after weeks of throwing dvd's away, maybe I could export the files in premiere elements to a MPEG 2 dvd file and then use a dvd authoring software like dvd maker.
I would like to know what settings would get the best quality in adobe premiere elements on the advanced settings on the multiplexer and video settings? I put the bit rate the highest it would go and the quality to the maximum.
The other thing that has me completely puzzled is the aspect ratio. Do I choose 4:3 or 16:9?
I have tried to use video to dvd software in the past and all it does is stretches the image and doesn't give you an option to keep the original aspect ratio of the imported video. I can't even find out what the aspect ratio is because when I import it into gspot it doesn't give me any information.
any help would be appreciated.

sarasounds
Could you post a screenshot of the error message that you are getting when you burn to DVD your video in Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 or post word for word what it says? The rest of what I am about to write becomes meaningless without that information.
The basic drill with Premiere Elements 8 is
a. Do you have the automatic background rendering and AutoAnalzyer features turned Off?
b. Are you working from the 8.0.1 Update?
You say that your video is "Full HD 1920 x 1080". That could be interlaced or progressive. In your case of a DVD-VIDEO destination, your choices for project preset are:
a. NTSC/AVCHD/Full HD1080i30
and apply Field Options/Reverse Field Dominance to the video at the Timeline Level if interlaced video
OR
b. NTSC/Hard Disk Flash Memory Camcorders/HD 1080i30
For burn to DVD-VIDEO format on DVD disc....
Share
Disc
DVD disc
with preset for NTSC_Widescreen_Dolby DVD (so you have a 16:9 source going to a 16:9 end product)
Many found that the resource demands of AVCHD (various sized project) were not met by Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and opted to convert the video to a less resource demanding format such as MPEG2 HD 1920 x 1080. Other means were explored as well (proxy methods and such). These considerations as they relate to later versions of Premiere Elements and operating systems can be discussed if applicable.
I would explore the above and burn to disc.
A better choice than export as MPEG2 file might be to burn to folder and then take the VIDEO_TS from the saved folder to DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc with a 3rd party software such as ImgBurn. Lots of possibilities.
More later once we find out the nature of the error messages associated with the burn to disc process.
Thanks.
ATR

CS3-mpeg2-dvd export files

Hi, and thanks for your help on this..
I just exported from media encoder , cs3, a 90 sec clip of graphics and sound from a project that is set up for avi type 2 dv ntsc 720x480i, lower field first to mpeg2 dvd high quality, dolby... I changed the dolby to pcm and went from quality 4 to 5, and left the bitrate defaults..
It generated 4 files....with these extensions:
m2v
m2v.xmpses
wav
xmp
When I double click the m2v file media classic opens the file and plays it, and it looks great and the sound is good.
When I drop the m2v file into gspot it says it is a video file ( no audio ).
I'm going to burn a DVD eventually and am new at this ....so I am not really used to the file types that DVD authoring programs require for the BEST dvd quality....and am wondering....how are those files linked ( wav and m2v ) ...through which other file generated, and is it normal to expect a DVD authoring program to recognize the video and sound files ( apparently demuxed during export ? ). Thanks !
Rod

Stan, thanks!
Thank God, the thing is acceptable on a normal TV.
The next one I do will have the chapters and scenes and stuff, so I'll find out more about those other file exports...the xmpses ? ...
My map graphic that I pan /zoom on is maxed out at 4000px for CS3, and I guess that's why I see the edges of the countries getting sawtoothed....not great...but like I said, acceptable...it gets way better as I Zoom in.....and the rest is just great....no problems with text and so on...
The sound is a bit loud though...I wonder if I should tell my brother who is giving me the sound stuff to keep to a certain db level for DVD authoring...it's no big deal, but it's kinda loud right now...
What a relief. I think I have at least half a chance now to make a decent edit for this friend of mine for his safari trip..
Bill Hunt has a grid he made for 4:3 and THAT worked perfect !.... I'm right where I thought I would be within TV safety...
If I play this now with a DTV (which I don't have) I bet that sawtooth stuff won't be so bad.....
All in all this has been a great day just from this success.... thanks a lot for your quick response, and I will keep all the files exported from the mpeg2 dvd setting to fine tune this later on ....as I get further along with the project.
Thanks
Rod

Quality issues w export to MPEG2-DVD

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