Queries on Enterprise Search

Hi,
I have started learning abt Enterprise Search. I have some queries on it. Pls clear my doubts.
1. It has been said that, "SAP NetWeaver Enterprise Search is delivered as an appliance with the software preinstalled on dedicated hardware"
So, once necessarily needs to by the hardware to use Enterprise Search or this is just another option ? if possible some detailed explanation on it.
2.Are there some reference customers for this product ? and generally who is reference customer for a product?
3.What versions of SAP does it support ? R/3 4.6, etc.
/* points assured*/
Regards,
Art Tech.
Edited by: Art Tech on Jan 2, 2008 8:33 AM

Hi Art Tech,
I am glad that my response helped
There are customers already in rampUp but I am not aware of any details about the customers.
Regarding you query on extending the connectivity, two types of connectivity is possible.
1. Connecting to a search service provider (delegate the search to a web search engine like Google for example)
2. Connecting to a search data provider (in this case, we have to do data extraction and indexing in addition to searching)
With SAP Netweaver Enterprise Search 7.0 the first type of extension is quite easy. For the second type of extension, you would need to use say TREX to do indexing and then delegate searching to the connector and this is not provided out of the box with the product.
ERP2005 provides a search service called SES (Search Engine Services) and we utilize SES to connect to ERP2005. Since this is not available in ERP2004, we donot provide any default connectors to ERP2004 business objects.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Reghu

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Queries in Enterprise Search

Hi,
I have started learning abt Enterprise Search. I have some queries on it. Pls clear my doubts.
1. It has been said that, "SAP NetWeaver Enterprise Search is delivered as an appliance with the software preinstalled on dedicated hardware"
So, once necessarily needs to by the hardware to use Enterprise Search or this is just another option ? if possible some detailed explanation on it.
2.Are there some reference customers for this product ? and generally who is a reference customer for a product?
3.What versions of SAP does it support ? R/3 4.6, etc.
/* points assured*/
Regards,
Art Tech.
Edited by: Art Tech on Jan 2, 2008 8:29 AM

Hello,
The reason for having a dedicated and seperate hardware for Enterprise search or TREX (Text retrival search and classification) to gain better performance and fast retrival text.
You would point or refer your technical landscapes (Portal, BI, KM, CRM, ECC 6.0 etc.,) to this TREX which is installed on a seperate hardware platform. This will help us to retrive the information fastly from all the above systems to end user desktops.
However, before using enterprise search or TREX you need to download, install and configure the TREX on this desired hardware platform. From Netweaver 7.0, I guess it is part of installed components.
For more information see this [link|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/d5/d79d937d8c47519c254de44b1aa517/frameset.htm] .
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