Query on PIR consumption.

Hi all,
One of the PIR created in Aug (MD61/MD62) is still appearing in MD04. If it is not consumed, whether it will still reflect in MD04 now (October). I have a doubt in this. I think if the PIR is -30 days and +30 days after date of forecast, it should actually disappear in MD04 even if it is not consumed. Could anyone clarify on the same?
Regards,
Brijesh

Dear ,
MD04 will populate the PIR based on MRP run result .It depends on your Planning Horizon in OPPQ-Carry all over all plant paraemters -Planning Horizon .If the PIR is not consumed , it should appear as Indepedent Requirement in MD04 screen .
If you do not want to conside them then hit the Indepedent Requiremet in MD02-Change mode -either shift in October or remove it from Aug and SAVE so it will disapear .
Also check in SPRO-MRP-Evalution -Define Display Filter -SAP00007-SAP Display horizon for the user-Check the User set up-Start day display and End day display
Just simulate in sandbox and test the scinario to check the result in MD04
Regards
JH
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Oct 11, 2010 9:46 AM

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I am sorry for the very late reply Senthil.
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