Query reagarding Employee sub group...required guidance...

Hi,
We are in the process of implementation.
I prepare employee group EG as Permanent,Fixed, trainees etc.... and under permanent we have all salaried employees.
query :-
All salaried employees in Unit 1 and Unit3 are divided in to two diff category, worker and administrative, Worker have 12 hrs 2 shifts (8 am to 8 pm and 8pm to 8am) and administrative employees have 10hrs shift general shift. unit 4 have general shift.
Above all employees comes under
Another query related to same is all PA have diff pay day and payroll process day is separate.
I would like to know how many ESG do we have to prepare.

Hello Yuvraj,
As mentioned earlier, to sort out the different paydate problem, you will have to create different payroll areas. Since the permanent, trainees,admins, workers etc work different times, you need to create different work schedules for them and assign it to the correct group of employees.
The grouping of Employees ie ESG comes into picture when you are processing payments differently.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards.
Karan.

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