Quesion regarding "allow this network to be extended"
All,
Please excuse my dumb question. checking the box marked "allow this network to be extended" is a setting only used when adding another Airport router and will not increase range otherwise?
sorry to sound dumb, just trying to educate myself.
Bob,
Thanks so much for your help. I had read through info that lead me to believe that, but I needed the plain plain english version. sorry.
Can I pester you on another question?
As I am newish to the airport extreme (802.11n) we have an imac, hp pavilion, wii w/ netflix streaming account, and use radio apps on our blackberries. If i increase the multicast rates will this help or hurt? Conceptually I am hoping it will increase speed to netflix. but it could cause problems right?
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"Allow this network to be extended" is automatically enabled (and hidden) in the newer versions of AirPort Utility 6.x, so there is no setting needed for this.
The setup to "extend" is now much easier to configure with AirPort Utility 6.x compared to previous versions of AirPort Utility.
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Airport Express N - to be used on the other side of my house to extend the length of my network, and to connect the Express to a HP printer so I can put the printer on the network. It will not be connected via ethernet cable.
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CAT 6 cables - to connect my D-Link to my Extreme and to connect my ATT and Verizon wireless cellphone extenders to ethernet ports
1. Before I get started with this, is there anything I'm missing or forgot about?
2. Do I setup the Express in Extend a wireless network mode? Will this also allow me to use it to connect the printer?
3. The Express will be located on the other side of my house, so the signal will already be somewhat weaker there, though there is nowhere conveinet to plug the Express into ethernet. Am I wasting my time by extending the network this way since the signal is already weaker by the time it gets to the Express?
Thank you in advance!1. Before I get started with this, is there anything I'm missing or forgot about?
You appear to have all the necessary equipment. However, note that what you are proposing is not a form of a roaming network. That is because, a roaming network requires that all wireless routers/wireless access points be connected by Ethernet. Instead you are describing an extended wireless network.
2. Do I setup the Express in Extend a wireless network mode? Will this also allow me to use it to connect the printer?
Yes, the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) would need to be configured for Wireless Mode: Extend a wireless network, and the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) would need to be configured such that the option: Allow this network to be extended, is enabled. Yes, this configuration would also allow you to share a printer to any client connected to either base station.
3. The Express will be located on the other side of my house, so the signal will already be somewhat weaker there, though there is nowhere conveinet to plug the Express into ethernet. Am I wasting my time by extending the network this way since the signal is already weaker by the time it gets to the Express?
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How many devices can I use under the extend this network?
I understand that the base station (Airport Extreme) connected to the modem should we under “Create of a Wireless Network” and “allow this connection to be extended”. The extension device ( Airport Express 1) should be under “extend a wireless network”.
Can I extend from the extension device? i.e. Can I place another Airport Express (2) that connects to Airport Express 1?
How many devices could I extend?
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A main base station is connected to the Internet and shares its connection with remote
and relay base stations. A remote base station shares the main base station’s Internet
connection. A relay base station shares the main base station’s Internet connection and
transfers the connection to other remote or relay base stations.
All three base station configurations (main, remote, and relay) can also share the main
base station’s Internet connection with client computers wirelessly, or with Ethernet if
the client computers are connected to the base station or Ethernet.
I do not know the number of relay base stations that may exist in a chain but since a Relay base station can transfer its connection to other relay base stations, then you do know that at least 2 relay base stations can be involved which would then allow you the distance of 4 base stations in your network. -
With my Airport Express, I can join the network but not extend it.
I just bought a new Airport Express to extend the network I have setup with my Airport Extreme. At first, it seemed the Express was unable to get a correct IP address, I think because I had my DHCP server running from the cable modem, and the Extreme was just acting as a bridge. I switched the Extreme to run a DHCP server and now the Express correctly receives an IP address. However, it still tells me that it cannot extend the network, but gives no details why. It just tells me to make sure I have the correct password and to be sure I am in range.
Clearly I am in range and have the correct password, because when I switch to "join network", all works fine. Though when I do switch, I still get an amber blinking light and Airport Utility still thinks the Express is in Extend mode. When I unplug and replug the Express, then it comes up with a green light and Airport Utility shows it in Join mode and all works fine.
I am thinking there might be something wrong with my Express and am considering exchanging it. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas as to why this may be happening?
Thanks.However, it still tells me that it cannot extend the network, but gives no details why.
Suggest that you check your AirPort Extreme to make sure that you have enabled the wireless network to be extended.
Open AirPort Utility, select the AirPort Extreme, and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Just under the setting for Wireless Network name......make sure that there is a check mark next to "Allow this network to be exended".
Update to save changes
Now, try the configuration with the AirPort Express set to "Extend a wireless network" -
Airport firmware 7.6.4 when I select "Create Wireless Network" I can't set the network up to be extendable anymore, there is no related checkbox like in the instructions (yes I know it's old, but look at steps 7 and 8) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4259 . This is more than annoying because I know both devices I have are capable as I've looked into it already on the internets.
Airport Extreme A1408 (Base)
TimeCapsule 2TB (with airport extreme later version)
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With your main base setup.. I gather you are using the A1408??
Simply factory reset the TC..
Then when you do the setup.. extend wireless is the option that will automatically be offered to you.
I am just going to do it.. Other way around.. but it is the same thing.
So here we go..
I have factory reset the airport extreme.. and it takes a couple of min for it to come up.
You can also see it in wifi.
You can click on it in either place and get into the auto setup function.
I have no network connection at all on the extreme.. it is simply powered on and close to the computer.
It will automatically offer a name.. for reasons I won't go into here but see C9 http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
Give the Extending router a name that is short, no spaces and pure alphanumeric.. you can do it immediately here.
Go next..
Magically it is done..
Now fix up the errors..
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So I ignore it.
Second error is firmware is old.
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In the v5 utility go to the NAT area, and click on port mappings.
Sorry I don't have a screen shot at the moment of the actual mapping page.. but simply put the IP of the device you want opened and the port.
There are plenty of posts with this info if you google.
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"networksetup is trying to modify the system network configurations" type your password to allow this.Type your password to allow this. No amount of password typing seems to satisfy the request. The pop up box will not go away!!!!
Hi Glenyse,
Did you find the answer to your question? I have the same problem. Or can anyone else help?
My wife’s 2012 Macbook Pro has Yosemite and is using Wi Fi for the internet connection.
Every time, both on startup and awaking from sleep, a window appears on the desktop with a locked icon saying, “Networksetup is trying to modify this system. Type your password in to allow this”.
The window (which can’t be moved or dragged) shows the computer’s user name. The password has to be repeatedly typed in as many as 10 times and the highlighted ‘modify configuration’ box clicked before the window disappears and the computer then functions normally.
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why do i always get "Network is trying to modify the system network configuration type your password to allow this"
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I have a Hyper-V R2 Test box with 2 NICs. The setting 'Allow management operating system to share this network adapter' was enabled by default on the virtual network that was created as part of adding the Hyper-V role. I configured the virtual network to use the 2nd physical NIC on the box that will be dedicated for VM traffic.
I know that best practise recommends isolating the traffic for host management, and virtual machines between different NICs if possible.
Interestingly, when i unchecked the 'Allow management operating system to share this network adapter' checkbox, one my of my NICs (the one configured for VM traffic) immediately disappears from view in the list of network adapters. At the same time, wiping the static TCP/IP config I have applied to the NIC. Only the virtual switch and management connections remain visible. If i re-enable the above setting, the missing network adapter re-appears but with its previous statically set config wiped.
Q1 Is this expected behaviour?
Q2 In Hyper-V version 1.0, this setting doesn't exist. As such, does that mean the operating system would share the network adapter by default and cannot be disabled from doing so? I assume this is the case, as all of the network adapters are present/visible on the same server, and in the absence of this setting.
TIA for any advice
MarkIt is not that things are hidden - in fact part of the confusion is that too much is shown - it is that they are moved.
Lets go back to the beginning (I am going to describe R2):
If you have a host with two nics and zero External networks - in Network Connections you will see two interfaces.
Go into the Virtual Network Manager and create an External Virtual Network and bind it to NIC 2 - do not select the option for the management OS to share the network.
If you look at Network connections you still see two interfaces, but NIC 2 is now bound to the virtual network protocol - it is dedicated to being a port of the External Network.
This is what happens when you attach a physical NIC to an External Network - it becomes an extension of the External Network - the hypervisor owns it - the management OS does not.
Now - modify the External Virtual Network and turn on the option to share with the management OS.
If you look at Network Connections you will see a new (third) interface.
kThis new interface is a soft interface tht is only exposed to the management OS by the hypervisor - it is a virtual NIC that is attached to the External Network - thus allowing the management OS to share the physical NIC 2 with all the other 'domains'.
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TS1398 Forget this network does not appear. It only allows me to join a network.
The forget this network does not appear... Only gives me option to join network. I need to forget network. I hit the i button and it doesn't appear.
Odd...the only other thing I can suggest is to reboot the Wi-Fi network at work (if you can) and try again.
EDIT: Do you use something called Quickconnect client to setup a wireless connection? If so, this may help:
(via Google)
To remove the wireless profile from an iOS device:
Go to Settings > General > Profiles
Select the profile you wish to remove (eduroam or UI-Wireless-Setup, for example)
Select Remove
If asked, enter your device’s security PIN number
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I have an Airport Extreme Base station (purchased in 2009) and an Airport Express base station (purchased in 2011 - the model that plugs directly into the electrical outlet) (both version 7.6.1 according to the Airport Utility info). I want to use the Airport Express to extend my wireless network. Using Airport utility setup I have a software option on the Airport Express to set it up to extend the network but I do not have an option on the Airport Extreme wireless setup screen that I can check to allow my wireless network to be extended.
All of the documentation I can find on Apple Support states that I should have an option I can check to allow the wireless network to be extended while in the wireles setup section for the Airport Extreme in Airport Utility; but, that check option isn't there. Is this a case of my Airport Extreme base station being too old to offer that option? Incidentally, when I try to select the extend wireless network option on the Airport Express from the Airport Utility wireless setup menu I get an error message (no details - just an error message). The same Airport Express sets up fine if I select join a network (not what I want to do). Am I just dealing with outdated equipment or does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks.Close AirPort Utility if it is open.
Temporarily, move the Express to the same general area as your AirPort Extreme and power it up and wait a minute.
Hold in the reset button on the Express for 9-10 seconds and then release. Give the Express a full minute to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Click the AirPort icon at the top of the Mac's screen and wait a few seconds for a listing of New AirPort Base Station to appear
Click on AirPort Express just below that and AirPort Utility will automatically open
Wait a minute while AirPort Utility analyzes the network and announces that the Express will be configured to "Extend" the AirPort Extreme network.
Enter a device name for the AirPort Express and click Next
Wait another minute to allow the configuration to occur.
When you see the Setup Complete message, click Done.
Now move the Express to a location that is approximately half the distance from the AirPort Extreme and the general area that needs more wireless coverage
Power up the Express and you are all set. Trash those old instructions.
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