Question about a second hard drive..

13" MacBook Pro, Mid 2012 (Non-Retina)
Hello, in early December when in the Apple store, I was torn between a MacBook Air and Pro. After talking it over and hearing the basics from the Apple store guy, he mentioned how many people use the DVD Drive space in their Pros to fit a second hard drive! Now I'm all set up with my Pro, I'm wondering what kind of benefits this could have, so I have two questions...
1. How do I do this? Is there a spare HDD cable inside the machine? :S
2. When I fit a new HDD in the DVD Drive space can I use it as a 'seperate backup' for the other? E.g. When on the system open Time Machine and select the other internal drive as backup.
Also, I'm considering buying an OCZ 240GB SSD drive for my main and maxing ram to 8GB!
Thanks for taking the time to read and potential answers!

Others on here have done this, you can search in the box with the blue Search button towards the upper right of the page. But it is involved. You should also check the impact on your warranty and AppleCare if you bought that...Apple only permits installation of ram and replacement of the hard drive under the warranty.
There are advnatages to keeping the optical drive, such as burning disks, loading software, files, etc. An external hard drive is a good solution to the extra storage issue, and so easy to just plug in and partition and format how you want them to work.
I like having the option of the optical drive plus the external drive, which is why I have external drives for all of my Macs.

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Hi,
Lost power for 40mins. Please try this:
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